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Glitches or intentional?

We all know that we can not trade in books... hopefully Nexon will fix that.

What i really wonder about is wings and mount cancelling. Wings can not be added to a macro anymore, so there is no possibility for a wings recoil combo as we previously had (i wanted to try to wings then recoil to the top platforms at crockies). Also, we can not macro the new boat mount so it effectively removes our ability to mount cancel given that the speed that we can manually mount and then dismount is far slower than the delay of the skill itself.

Do any of you think that these are glitches and that they will be fixed, or do you think they are intentional?

August 8, 2012

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The current wings animation can't beat the old one, but making it like the cannoneer jump, but maybe nexon did so to counter the phantom and the jett's mobility skills (shroud walk and double vertical respectively, along with their Fj skills)

Also, mounting on ropes and ladders speeds up the mount animation, also pressing your mount and jump buttons at the same time makes it go into a "quick mount". I use the quick mount way when I play my wild hunter, because the mount animation is slower than other mount skills (mechs mount faster -_-).

Reply August 10, 2012
evilkaz

[quote=Zingmin]You misunderstood what i was saying... didn't think it was too clear when i typed it though.

Basically, if you release the arrow keys while you are still boosting up but are still holding wings, when the glide section kicks in you move faster during the glide. If you keep the arrow key pressed, or press it again while gliding, your glide speed and distance is reduced dramatically.[/quote]

Oh yeah sorry miss-read what you said. Yeah I noticed that too.

@carbunion: try this if the other technique isn't working: tap wings to shoot you up (don't hold it) and on the way up, press is again but hold it this time. That way you glide right as you start to fall.

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
Zingmin

[quote=evilkaz]Hey was just testing your theory about not holding down the arrows, but I can still jump and glide will holding the arrow keys the whole time. I don't have to stop before gliding kicks in.

@teensora: Yeah I use it for the same reasons and it's very good at that! Mines on "S" so that shouldn't be an issue.[/quote]

You misunderstood what i was saying... didn't think it was too clear when i typed it though.

Basically, if you release the arrow keys while you are still boosting up but are still holding wings, when the glide section kicks in you move faster during the glide. If you keep the arrow key pressed, or press it again while gliding, your glide speed and distance is reduced dramatically.

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
evilkaz

[quote=Zingmin]Wings works as described for me as well. Although i have noticed that if you are walking, then press and hold wings you need to stop pressing the directional arrow key before the glide kicks in to move faster in the direction you were walking. If you keep the arrow key pressed or try to change direction in the air it slows the sideways movement dramatically.

I do hope that made sense. haha[/quote]

Hey was just testing your theory about not holding down the arrows, but I can still jump and glide will holding the arrow keys the whole time. I don't have to stop before gliding kicks in.

@teensora: Yeah I use it for the same reasons and it's very good at that! Mines on "S" so that shouldn't be an issue.

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
teensora

It works for me. I macro'd it to spacebar. (maybe that matter). I shoot up into the air and if I hold it I glide down. Only problem is I barely move left and right during the glide down and only RS can speed my horizontal movement (tried dashing during glide). Also once I RS I drop down. I mostly use it for the up platform effect but every now and then I Wings+RS to dodge an attack and get behind a mob to rush it all together.

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
evilkaz

[quote=carbunion]@evilkaz: Ok I'll take your word for it and give it another shot tonight.

What about being able to wings off rope? I used to be able to do that too.. really helped going through those caves of trials.[/quote]

Sorry I can't go online to test a few ideas why it may not work, but the guy above may have helped a bit.

Nope that doesn't work either! I know some people don't like the new wings, but to me, there are way more positives then negatives. Coming from a Mech, I used to love using the rocket jump but the delay was so much. It's similar to that but with no delay.

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
Zingmin

Nope, it no longer works from a rope.

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
Zingmin

Wings works as described for me as well. Although i have noticed that if you are walking, then press and hold wings you need to stop pressing the directional arrow key before the glide kicks in to move faster in the direction you were walking. If you keep the arrow key pressed or try to change direction in the air it slows the sideways movement dramatically.

I do hope that made sense. haha

Reply August 10, 2012 - edited
evilkaz

[quote=carbunion]You have got to be kidding me.... yesterday I did 15 minutes non-stop of press and holding, press press and holding, and other crazy stuff and it refused to glide until I'm basically 0.2 seconds from impacting. And it would only go straight up and slightly to one direction.

Does the glide let you move horizontally?[/quote]

I'm not kidding you at all. It works exactly as its described for me which is why I was saying earlier it doesn't feel like a glitch.

It lets you move a little bit horizontally (same as when you pushed wings by itself pre revamp and held down the left or right key).

Reply August 9, 2012 - edited
evilkaz

[quote=carbunion]Pressing and holding vs pressing and not holding shows 0 difference for me. Both shoot the ground, go up, then right back down, without ability to float left/right[/quote]

Weird, cause when I hold down wings, it glides down (like the old wings) after jumping up high, Which then I can recoil (but that deactivates the gliding down).

Reply August 9, 2012 - edited
evilkaz

@carbunion: Hold the button down and you glide down. It does EXACTLY what it says. You press and hold the button which shoots the ground and go up in the air, then "wings" activates and you glide down. So you're doing something wrong because it works fine for me!

@NinjaKc: New wings is much better for navigating around maps, especially for jumping vertical between platforms such at LHC or ToT.

Reply August 9, 2012 - edited
Zingmin

I know the delay was shortened, and i also know that mount cancelling eight legs is not needed because of that... what i was saying is that you could not add the mount to a macro even if you wanted to.

A glitch/change that has no real impact on anything anyway though.

@evilkaz: That is the main reason i posted this, just to highlight a couple of things i noticed went against previous expectations. Neither problem really matters, it is just not what i expected before the revamp.

Reply August 9, 2012 - edited
evilkaz

You don't need to mount cancel anymore.

I'm not too bothered about the recoil/wings effects. It doesn't feel like a glitch to me, it just has a different effect then most people expected.

Reply August 9, 2012 - edited
Kinshima

The delay for Eight-Legs Easton was shortened, much like Jett's Suborbital Bomber. Mount-cancelling is no longer necessary. Wings is nothing like kMS's. No idea if that's intentional or not.

Reply August 9, 2012 - edited