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Ive been lied to

Ever since the Aran revamp during the Dawnveil patch, I've been told by every Aran that Overswing was our best 1v1/DPS skill. Considering how fast it is, and how high it hits, I believed my fellow Arans. So, whenever I do dojo, I would just spam Overswing without a care. I would usually average around 21 minutes, with my best time being 20:12. I had never got under 20 minutes.

With the upcoming revamp, I decided to do a pure FB+BB run to compare it to its upcoming buff. On my first run, I clocked in at 19:05. On my second run, my time was 18:56. Keep in mind that since FB requires combos, I had to constantly cast Combo Recharge and Combo Unlimited, which added 10-20 seconds to my time.

With that said, how is Overswing our best 1v1 skill when I was able to finish dojo faster with FB+BB? Am I missing something? And no, I have not upgraded my equips in months.

June 19, 2014

17 Comments • Newest first

lulzace

You pressing the keys or are you putting in commands manually?

When did they change it so that putting in combos manually gives less damage? The attacks come out faster so I kinda get it but at the same time for aran it require so much more work. I really could have sworn the skill keys cost more combo than manual input and were weaker not no combo for manual and weaker.

Prime example being this

Final Blow: damage has been increased from 355% to 380% (hotkey), damage has been increased from 460% to 490% (Combo usage) number of hits has been increased from 3 to 4, Combo Count required has been decreased from 30 to 15

Reply June 28, 2014 - edited
lilblkkid

[quote=Rokani]Yea the V + Attack makes you do what the game counts as a 'Dragon Link' attack and thus lower damage but doesn't need combos using the skill uses 15 combos and does the full damage of the skill.[/quote]
Ah, thanks for the info

Reply June 26, 2014 - edited
Rokani

[quote=lilblkkid]ok, this is very off topic, but does using the FB skill differ from using the Down+attack skill?[/quote]

Yea the V + Attack makes you do what the game counts as a 'Dragon Link' attack and thus lower damage but doesn't need combos using the skill uses 15 combos and does the full damage of the skill.

Reply June 25, 2014 - edited
lilblkkid

ok, this is very off topic, but does using the FB skill differ from using the Down+attack skill?

Reply June 25, 2014 - edited
7Locker

I did a couple more OS spam dojo runs, and the best time I could get was 19:07. Meanwhile, I did another FB+BB run and clocked in at 18:28. Close, but I now believe that FB+BB is stronger than OS spam even before the upcoming buff. And I am in no way close to capping on either, so I don't think it's an issue of damage lines.

@Azngothopz: Yeah, I'm from Nova. Hopefully, there will eventually be enough Arans in Bellonova so that we can have some all Aran boss runs like in ImEvol's videos.

Reply June 24, 2014 - edited
Feeling

I have noticed this also.
I never ran any tests or numbers or anything, but I also get the feeling that FB+BB is stronger than OS spam. Not to mention, it's not as boring,
OS spam is pretty important at end-game bosses due to its speed though.
With a green potion and a bit of practice, dodging 1HKO's at Magnus, Gollux, CRA is much easier with OS than with FB+BB, so it's not completely useless.

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
Azngothopz

Oh you are from bellonova? That's great, there's not that many arans around here anymore sadly =/ Hopefully, this revamp will bring some more people back or new aran users. So i have tried dojoing again but with fb+bb instead of os. My time definitely improved by a few seconds, but I am hitting max on overswing, so that could be a reason why my time improved (fb+bb has more lines of dmg). I'll try again but with less equips and we'll see what happens.

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
JumpUpdate

Basing it off of watching some arans and basil the FB+BB combo offers more % dmg and some bonuses. But BB has a cap of 3m? and also the speed of your weapon and the speed of the move has a factor in determining which is better. Sorry if I am wrong doe.

Reply June 21, 2014 - edited
mvietp09

Could be that you recently got leader set or decent co? I see that over swing isn't affected by co like FB is so you get 10% less damage using OS.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
MapleBhav

Silly question but is your over swing level 30?

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
Rokani

Well then I have no idea, I've tried it myself on both bosses with high and low PDR yet OS always wins.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
Raiden

Well at least we'll definitely know FBBB will beat out OS. I think it's self sustaining in combo too.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
7Locker

Hey, XyvierKnight. I see you around in the server

My PDR is at 73%. With all the changes made to the formula, I'm not sure if that's high or low. I play this game too casually to know

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
Azngothopz

Well the only reason I can come up with is that your pdr is low. Overswing doesn't offer anything in terms of that aspect while fb+bb does. I will retest and see what happens.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
7Locker

Well, I DO have 100% crit rate, and FB+BB still out DPS OS for me, so...

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
Rokani

100% crit rate, if you have 100% crit then BB is useless and thus OS is better than FBBB.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
alanliuis

you used 2 skills + buffs in your FB+BB run while you used overswing only in your first few runs.
2 > 1 obviously

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited