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Uses for The Finisher

Hi there.

I've just been levelling my BaM lately and I'm not really understanding when the Finisher is actually very useful. Currently Dark Chain + maybe one quad blow can suffice, so I'm not finding the finisher used much.
People have told me "use it for stragglers", but I cant really predict when there are going to be stragglers, so it's just a waste of MP if I cast "in-case".

Any advice is welcomed, thanks.

June 26, 2011

30 Comments • Newest first

AngelxHoly

[quote=nhz213942]just to point it out,
it saves ur mp -___-
if u cant do math.[/quote]

Dont know why the hell "-_-" is necessary.

Reply July 5, 2011
nhz213942

just to point it out,
it saves ur mp -___-
if u cant do math.

Reply July 5, 2011
ChaosrazorX

Yeah I have that sort of set up.
z for ADC, x for jump, c for tele, and ctrl for quintuple blow.

Reply July 4, 2011
Momijii

[quote=AngelxHoly]I use X for blow and C for finisher as well.

Shift for teleport. I can train for hours and not get strained.[/quote]
Exactly what I use. On a laptop so I have things close to Z so I don't murder my hands (though I have an auto-loot pet so it doesn't really matter lulz). X for Blow, C for Finisher, V for Chains.

Reply July 4, 2011
AngelxHoly

[quote=Momijii]I never understand how there's strain, for me the keys are right next to eachother (X, C) and you can activate it during the animation. o.O[/quote]
I use X for blow and C for finisher as well.

Shift for teleport. I can train for hours and not get strained.

Reply July 4, 2011
ThisIsMySord

@Momijii: ppl have horntailed without ABA i think they could do it now....

Reply July 4, 2011
Koncept

1 word
LHC

Reply July 3, 2011
Momijii

[quote=ThisIsMySord]i maxed reaper and ADC, i didnt max ABA cuz i found it completely useless[/quote]
Don't Horntail then.

Reply July 3, 2011
ThisIsMySord

i maxed reaper and ADC, i didnt max ABA cuz i found it completely useless

Reply July 3, 2011
Momijii

I never understand how there's strain, for me the keys are right next to eachother (X, C) and you can activate it during the animation. o.O

Reply July 3, 2011
Al3cs2Bladez

i found that when i maxed my Fin Bl0w to even have 130%dm(145%now), it out-dpm's the wheel, and i dont up tele cuz it ruin the push i can perfectly get, btw 145%+ele staff = OMGWTFSHICHKABOBSAUCE

Reply July 3, 2011
AngelxHoly

[quote=Kang12345]I use finisher at really strong monsters/bosses like someone above mentioned, also if I'm not mistaken after chaos the range of finisher increased(not the attack but the actual distance the skill covers). So it's really hand when you use a blow skill and there are monsters just out of your reach because I can then tele+finisher into them and that usually kills them without another finishing blow [/quote]
You would be correct. For the finisher after triple and quad blow, the range increase was minimal. For quintuple and finishing blows, the hitboxes got HEAPS larger.

Reply July 3, 2011
chickdigger802

spamming blow is just easier at like lhc lol. Less strain on fingers = train longer

Reply July 3, 2011
toastyc12

Finisher ignores 50% of monster's defense if I'm not mistaken. For me, it always does more damage than all of my Finishing blow hits combined.

Reply July 2, 2011
benjamin2708

I don't even cast reaper anymore it's a waste of mp to use reaper at LHC which is where evryone will be 115+
finisher is just for show, really.

Reply June 27, 2011
AngelxHoly

@HateSpirit: The first 2 "finishers" are kind of lame. It's awesome in 3rd job though, cause it's massive.

Reply June 27, 2011
nhz213942

[quote=KevinChenHao]Well firstly any true bam knows that dark chains r useless for killing.[/quote]

nah, true BaM knows how to spam adv chain/chain to farm stuff, also perm stun (at least my chain can go up to 200k, good enough to kill)

and for the mp uses, finisher use 15 mp to do same, or more damage than FB, depends on crits or no

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
HateSpirit

@AngelxHoly Sneaky Sneaky. So you like battle mages again. c: The finisher is pretty useful before 3rd job, but once you have teleport mastery, it's used a lot less. I kind of used it when moving while attacking, and it usually killed off the mob. (teleporting twice)

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
AngelxHoly

[quote=alwayswimmin]I use it all the time. By second job it's just as strong, if not stronger, than a maxed quad blow. Finisher also uses less MP.[/quote]
Well you need to activate quad in the first place anyway.

Since I 1hko with DC + 1 quad, finisher is pretty useless.

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
alwayswimmin

I use it all the time. By second job it's just as strong, if not stronger, than a maxed quad blow. Finisher also uses less MP.

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
lilcellion

i never use that skill
it's useful yes to finish off some mobs, but if an extra finishing blow would also finish the mobs off i'd rather use finishing blow
my finishing blow does more damage than the finisher (for me) so i prefer it and i don't want to mash buttons so i avoid using it
too bad you cant to a macro thing with it then i'd do it lol.

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
nhz213942

well, ur facing chaos coming, 15% boost on FB each hit, probably just spam it,
btw, finisher use less mp

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
Laguniroth

@zomgitbeandy: Yeah indeed max reaper. Do you think LHC is going to be as it is forever? It's already become obsolete and unused in KMS due to it no longer being a party zone. (changes that are right around the corner for us) 2. ADC isn't necessary to max at all, as you can max reapers and still pull the max number of monsters and the attack of ADC is beyond worthless.. Better to have a move that permanantly adds to your dpm and looks cool to boot.

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
FaTaLP3NGU1N

My BaM is extremely weak so the pack of monsters created by Adv. Dark Chain usually starts to fall apart right before they die. I either use dark shock (if the mobs have fallen apart) or finisher (if they have just begun falling apart).

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
zomgitbeandy

[quote=Laguniroth]I never used it on my BaM >< It's just kind of eye candy.. I do like how it changes depending which blow you use though.. On a side note, max reapers not ADC You'll thank me later[/quote]

yeah max reaper, where it won't work in LHC? o.o

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
AngelxHoly

[quote=SirJayGatsby]First off, I only use Advanced Dark Chains to mob my monsters. I think it is very ineffective to Finishing Blow -> Adv. Dark Chains. I use finisher as part of my regular combo. Finishing Blow -> Up Teleport + Finisher (yes at the same time). I suppose there really is no huge advantage to finisher though. Its just a lot of damage all at once.[/quote]
Yeah exactly, I only use DC for pulling monsters in, then I spam Quad.
[quote=tyr2067]I use it occasionally. I find that it doesn't break your spammage as much to tele for finisher rather than tele for blow, but I usually don't tele at all.

It has some DR ignore though so it may be useful (I don't notice a diff DR ignore or not b/c lvl 30 FB outdamages it).

Btw, why would you use chains and triple blow? Why not chains and quad blow at the very least?[/quote]
Sorry, I meant Quad, not triple. xD

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
Chrozome

I use it all the time. It does more damage than my FB by around 30-40k

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
Laguniroth

I never used it on my BaM >< It's just kind of eye candy.. I do like how it changes depending which blow you use though.. On a side note, max reapers not ADC You'll thank me later

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited
SirJayGatsby

First off, I only use Advanced Dark Chains to mob my monsters. I think it is very ineffective to Finishing Blow -> Adv. Dark Chains. I use finisher as part of my regular combo. Finishing Blow -> Up Teleport + Finisher (yes at the same time). I suppose there really is no huge advantage to finisher though. Its just a lot of damage all at once.

Reply June 26, 2011 - edited