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[quote=GunsTheSparkle]iVege: Hmm yes. It's not like our style of play changed at all. It just became more simplified.[/quote]

UuuhhHHh, I guess that's part of what I was trying to say I'm not too sure myself.

iVege: Hmm yes. It's not like our style of play changed at all. It just became more simplified.

[quote=Plusle4eva]I'm pretty sure DI made a pretty big impact. A less than pleasant looking impact, but you don't see many DrKs training solely with their third job dragon skills.[/quote]

I loved DI for its damage combined with its range and mobbing ability. But that's its damage [i]with[/i] its range and mobbing. In terms of damage of (1)2-3 mobs, Dark Impale did little more than what Buster did. It also delayed our massively quick growth. As a new skill with a different animation, it may seem big, but really it's just a Buster that mobs more with more range to complement it. I hope replacing 2 main attacking skills isn't what made you consider DI to be a pretty big impact. That doesn't change much at all to the DrK class, if you understand what I mean (I'm horrible at explaining things, as you can see from this mini wall of text. I hope you get me x.x)

@iVege: I'm pretty sure DI made a pretty big impact. A less than pleasant looking impact, but you don't see many DrKs training solely with their third job dragon skills.

[quote=Plusle4eva]>:[ We have! Or else you wouldn't have noticed that we've been spamming skills as opposed to interchanging once per hour/minute(joke was better in my head :l, don't mind that).[/quote]

Yes, but you're saying the TS is saying we haven't.

"By upgrade, i meam one that will make us not the weakest anymore ?"

This means he knows that he has been getting upgrades, but none of significance.

[quote=c0jeffc0]nice logic lol, you make far too many assumptions[/quote]

Enlighten me on where I am making an assumption.

[quote=Me]Pretty sure most of us don't play the class just to deal damage. [b]Might be wrong though, don't quote me on that.[/b][/quote]

Bold.

[quote=Me]We've already been revamped. Only things I'd like to see changed is the DI animation, some form of MP recovery and achilles back.[/quote]

We have been revamped. Ascension gave us DI. Union Eternal. And the variety of patches beforehand did affect us. Next sentence is an opinion.

[quote=Me]And I'm pretty sure we will still get updates. Your post implies that we haven't been updated since the beginning of time.[/quote]

Perception of original post, in other words, opinion.

[quote=Me]Also, aran4life? � ²� _� ²� If you'd be supporting Arans like your ID suggests what good will an update do if you're busy with an Aran?[/quote]

A pretty bad attempt at sarcasm.

At most, I'd be a presumptuous prick, not one who makes assumptions. Who are you to talk of logic?

@iVege: >:[ We have! Or else you wouldn't have noticed that we've been spamming skills as opposed to interchanging once per hour/minute(joke was better in my head :l, don't mind that).

[quote=punkrock101]You hit the nail on the head. I can easily live with Dark Knights being the "weakest" of the warriors because I enjoy this character, I enjoy Dark Impale, I like the look of Berserk (I'll like it much more when I hit 150), they're pretty rare to find, plus.. [b]Dark Knight of Darkness[/b]. DARKNESS![/quote]

ugghh.. why did you remind me

@darkspawn980: Lol I know. I'm weaker than most bishops.

agreed but ofc im still a dk so yeah.

@RubberDonkey: 10 years after that.... raging blow is a first job skill, 12 hit skill in 2nd, rapid fire in third, and in 4th, a skill that wipes out every enemy on the screen for 10000% damage without cooldown. 20 combo orbs. Life sucks.

[quote=lansh]they should make zerk 100% damage. then we would be starting to enter hero territory. Something big like that wont happen in a very long time, if ever.[/quote]

When that day comes, hero will have.... raging blow in 2nd job, a 12 hit skill in 3rd, and rapid fire melee attack in 4th job with 15 orbs.

I'm lv 139 and I can hit about 400k dmg with sacrifice. Am I weak?
No, not really because it's mainly funding. I mean if all the classes had the same funding drks won't be the strongest, but we wouldn't be the weakest either.

they should make zerk 100% damage. then we would be starting to enter hero territory. Something big like that wont happen in a very long time, if ever.

[quote=Chubsin]DrK is by far not the weakest. Bishop is[/quote]

you haven't played a bishop lately huh? they're pretty strong, at 50% int with infinity they can hit cap crits on holy arrow... and they have a good 80~ish % crit <.<
did i mention holy arrow is 3 hits?

It mostly depends on funding to be strong aka dealing a lot of damage.

Drks are the weakest class? I will take that as a joke.

I still have yet to see a beginner revamp. Stop your complaining.
OT: Drks give up some of their DMG for good self and party buffs. Still, ive seen some drks hitting 300k per line of dark impale.

Laser solves everything.

Alright , u should know im one of the guys that most complain about the last patch not making us strong , cmon freaking 20% or 40% on pally skills amd DI isnt a revamp
¿Why we dont become op or even avarage?
Also, we aint the weakest class.... Just as thieves, warriors are hell to fund.
It took me lot of work to even be avarage, and to hit 22k range

they should buff hyperbody since regular skill is 60% compared to decent hyperbody, 40% cmon decent should be at least 30% or change hyperbody to 80% at 4th job o_o

[quote=PraisedAura]Piss off, you better have a good reason for quoting me.

Edit: WOOPS WOW... Dun goofed bad.[/quote]

Also, my other/second 'what':

An "underdog" class's buffs and tweaks should not decide if you get buffed or not.

you're saying that if a job is buffed/tweaked, and you're not satisfied, that shouldn't mean you should receive another buff/tweak? or are you trying to say something else?

[quote=PraisedAura]Piss off, you better have a good reason for quoting me.

Edit: WOOPS WOW... Dun goofed bad.

Still, Drks are far from being the weakest [/quote]

In terms of mobbing, true. In terms of 1v1, Pallys>drk (blast vs Sac). So, when it comes to bossing, yeah....we're not that great (Pallys have the damage and the survivability to boss).

[quote=PraisedAura]Are you kidding me? >.>

Paladins are far from being the weakest.

An "underdog" class's buffs and tweaks should not decide if you get buffed or not.[/quote]

what?

what?

Will DrK be updated? Yeah probably. Every class gets buffed over and over. Will it change anything though? I doubt it. Nexon doesn't seem to care about balance.

Knowing Nexon then the next time there is a Warrior Revamp then DI will go to 220% per hit, Blast will become 150% per hit but hit 8 times, and Heroes will get Advanced Enrage which will change Enrage from 160% to 200% and double our number of hits or something crazy. It will replace something useless too like... making Rush into a 10SP skill and MM into a 20 SP skill and using that 30 SP for Advanced Enrage.

Also at this time there will be a game message that says "Seriously guys just stop playing any other Warrior. We hate them all except for this one. I mean really what else do we have to do to make you quit your other warriors? Do we need to give them Super Achilles (reduces all damage by 90%)? Do we need to rename them? Okay from now on they will be called Super Heroic Dark Paladin Slayers. Happy now? Now go make one. -Sincerely Nexon Dev Team."

[quote=Plusle4eva]Pretty sure most of us don't play the class just to deal damage. Might be wrong though, don't quote me on that.

We've already been revamped. Only things I'd like to see changed is the DI animation, some form of MP recovery and achilles back.

And I'm pretty sure we will still get updates. Your post implies that we haven't been updated since the beginning of time.

Also, aran4life? � ²� _� ²� If you'd be supporting Arans like your ID suggests what good will an update do if you're busy with an Aran? >[/quote]

nice logic lol, you make far too many assumptions

[i]Someone[/i] has to be the weakest in this game.

DrK is by far not the weakest. Bishop is

[quote=Plusle4eva]And I'm pretty sure we will still get updates. [b]Your post implies that we haven't been updated since the beginning of time[/b].[/quote]

I don't think so.

That was when i liked arans they got boring so i wemt back to my drk and i dont think theres anyway to cgange my basil id.
We all have to admit that we'd like a little more damage here and there. DrKs are fun but weak.

In the next decade or so, we'll get an upgrade.

OT: Anywho, I think drks have the potential to be strong. Problem is that it won't be easy at all in terms of funding.

Pretty sure most of us don't play the class just to deal damage. Might be wrong though, don't quote me on that.

We've already been revamped. Only things I'd like to see changed is the DI animation, some form of MP recovery and achilles back.

And I'm pretty sure we will still get updates. Your post implies that we haven't been updated since the beginning of time.

Also, aran4life? � ²� _� ²� If you'd be supporting Arans like your ID suggests what good will an update do if you're busy with an Aran? >

i can live being the weakest class.