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[quote=tianbozpear]I currently run all 3 sets together (thats why CRA> SW) with,
CRA: Hat Top Bottom Wep
Superior Gollux: Pendant x2 (gollux pendants stack for set effects.... yeh), Ring, Earing
Tyrant: Cape Belt Shoes.

Tyrants are insanely fricken strong individual items. It doesnt really matter what you scroll the tyrant with (as long as it gives some form of stats), just make sure you enhance it to 5 stars (3-4b per tyrant on average). they give around 180 all stat and 30 wep att each. tell me thats not crazy.
The gollux set effect can be achieved while using all 3 tyrants by using a double pendent slot. However, if you don't have that much funds, you can forgo Tyrant belt for a Gollux belt.
In my opinion, you should always get clean Gollux (since you can farm the scrolls yourself everyday), but if you have insanely bad scrolling history... you might wanna buy perfected ones lol.
I couldn't find any tyrant shoes or belts with decent pot, since clean ones were around 6b per piece at the time (prolly more now). I spent around $60 during miracle time getting all 3 of my tyrants to unique 15% str.

ahhh and finally, you will have enough range to do whatever non-endgame bosses you please, and to train at SDH after getting what I said. No need for training parties btw, grinding is a solo game now.
Gl to you fren[/quote]
Hmmm.... Questions...

So it's not possible to transpose a Tyrant to a SW equip, right?
I want an extra pendant slot, but there hasn't been a perma one sold since forever. To get the extra stats plus a set effect going though it's probably worth it to me.

Why is Second Drill Hall the best now instead of Hall of Honor? Didn't that used to the #1 training spot? And I heard the Ancient Golems were nerfed now. Is it solo because one person is now able to take up the entire map or is it just too damned hard to find a party? I miss the days where we had an entire party going spamming different skills.

And finally... I dunno, should I try to perfect a Fafnir/Tyrant with the chaos scrolls that only improve items? I'm afraid that I'll cheap out on the scrolling with some +2 str spell trace scrolling, and later regret it once I already have a great pot but I would be left with an item that could've been scrolled much better.

I just bought CRA hat/top/bottom for 800m. Cheapest cape is 2.9b atm.

Thanks

[quote=Darkwizzie]

Hmm... Should I get clean Gollux or clean Tyrant? I'm assuming that having the entire CRA Fafnir armor set is better than having a few CRA Fafnir armor and then having Tyrant shoes. On top of that, I have to decide whether I want a Gollux Belt or a Tyrant Belt. If I go with Tyrant I lose the 30% Boss and 30% PDR from Superior Gollux set effect.

Soo... My guess is the best option is to get CRA entire set (weapon, armor, everything). Then Gollux entire set. And then Tyrant cape. No Tyrant belt because it's taken by Gollux and no Tyrant shoes because it's taken by CRA.

Hmm but what about the pots? I still have the whole... cubing = IRL money and 1B = $3.77... does it make more sense to (try to) find a Tyrant with good pot or to DIY? And the scrolling too. I'm assuming spell-tracing the equipment here for a measly +2 str isn't the best idea for such high level equipment. I can't exactly find scroll for cape attack either though. [/quote]

I currently run all 3 sets together (thats why CRA> SW) with,
CRA: Hat Top Bottom Wep
Superior Gollux: Pendant x2 (gollux pendants stack for set effects.... yeh), Ring, Earing
Tyrant: Cape Belt Shoes.

Tyrants are insanely fricken strong individual items. It doesnt really matter what you scroll the tyrant with (as long as it gives some form of stats), just make sure you enhance it to 5 stars (3-4b per tyrant on average). they give around 180 all stat and 30 wep att each. tell me thats not crazy.
The gollux set effect can be achieved while using all 3 tyrants by using a double pendent slot. However, if you don't have that much funds, you can forgo Tyrant belt for a Gollux belt.
In my opinion, you should always get clean Gollux (since you can farm the scrolls yourself everyday), but if you have insanely bad scrolling history... you might wanna buy perfected ones lol.
I couldn't find any tyrant shoes or belts with decent pot, since clean ones were around 6b per piece at the time (prolly more now). I spent around $60 during miracle time getting all 3 of my tyrants to unique 15% str.

ahhh and finally, you will have enough range to do whatever non-endgame bosses you please, and to train at SDH after getting what I said. No need for training parties btw, grinding is a solo game now.
Gl to you fren

[quote=tianbozpear]@Darkwizzie: ahh my reply was pre-starforce update, before we had a chance to figure out what's up.

Kaiser is top 5 DPM in the game, and it is also the strongest class theoretically (if you and ur db friend had infinite money, you would do more dmg). It is also more fund efficient... lol pretty much, if you want damage, kaiser > db. Especially db, since all thief classes have crazy inflated prices on their equips.

So, pretty much follow what i said before goes, except for the fafnir weapon lol. If we had a 25 star cap, fafnir weapons would have inflated like crazy cuz people (like me) would have been booming entire inventories of them. You aren't in that much of a rush to get it anymore since the price wont be inflating.

CRA> SW because of the set effect and because of the top/bottom split. You get a better set effect from CRA 4 peice than you do with SW 3 piece (assuming you wana get Tyrants... which takes up Belt Boots and Cape slots). Also, CRA is tradable, while SW isn't, so whatever money you dump onto your SW will be gone 4evar.

Also for Tyrants, its best to do 5 stars now, since nexon decided to start booming at 6 .__.
And yes, clean golluxes are a priority. (scroll them urself since you dont have the money to buy prescrolled)[/quote]

With the new update my range is now 159k max self-buffed, 228k max transformed with hyper buff. I have a PDR of 69% (at least, that's what the stats window shows). I can't believe I didn't mention this earlier, but I'm thinking of doing 50/50 training/bossing. (Although, from what I see HOA are pretty damned empty nowadays... How the hell am I going to find a party?)

So there is a Gollux belt, earring, pendant, ring.
There is a Tyrant belt, cape, and shoes.

Hmm... Should I get clean Gollux or clean Tyrant? I'm assuming that having the entire CRA Fafnir armor set is better than having a few CRA Fafnir armor and then having Tyrant shoes. On top of that, I have to decide whether I want a Gollux Belt or a Tyrant Belt. If I go with Tyrant I lose the 30% Boss and 30% PDR from Superior Gollux set effect.

Soo... My guess is the best option is to get CRA entire set (weapon, armor, everything). Then Gollux entire set. And then Tyrant cape. No Tyrant belt because it's taken by Gollux and no Tyrant shoes because it's taken by CRA.

Hmm but what about the pots? I still have the whole... cubing = IRL money and 1B = $3.77... does it make more sense to (try to) find a Tyrant with good pot or to DIY? And the scrolling too. I'm assuming spell-tracing the equipment here for a measly +2 str isn't the best idea for such high level equipment. I can't exactly find scroll for cape attack either though.

Regarding the Ghost Exorcist medal, I got a pot on it now but it's a junk 2-liner. I'm assuming the best option here is to buy one of those bonus line scrolls. And then vicious hammer it twice (instead of golden hammer because this is the one and only medal with pot so I can't take chances), and then Incredible Chaos Scroll of Goodness scroll it 3 times? Just normal Chaos of Goodness has no boom and no negative stats but has less max improvement, but the I.C.S.G is much harder to come by.

Also once again, thanks for the input.

@Darkwizzie: ahh my reply was pre-starforce update, before we had a chance to figure out what's up.

Kaiser is top 5 DPM in the game, and it is also the strongest class theoretically (if you and ur db friend had infinite money, you would do more dmg). It is also more fund efficient... lol pretty much, if you want damage, kaiser > db. Especially db, since all thief classes have crazy inflated prices on their equips.

So, pretty much follow what i said before goes, except for the fafnir weapon lol. If we had a 25 star cap, fafnir weapons would have inflated like crazy cuz people (like me) would have been booming entire inventories of them. You aren't in that much of a rush to get it anymore since the price wont be inflating.

CRA> SW because of the set effect and because of the top/bottom split. You get a better set effect from CRA 4 peice than you do with SW 3 piece (assuming you wana get Tyrants... which takes up Belt Boots and Cape slots). Also, CRA is tradable, while SW isn't, so whatever money you dump onto your SW will be gone 4evar.

Also for Tyrants, its best to do 5 stars now, since nexon decided to start booming at 6 .__.
And yes, clean golluxes are a priority. (scroll them urself since you dont have the money to buy prescrolled)

[quote=tianbozpear]Kaiser is hands-down (after this week) the strongest warrior class.
Its got literally everything you could ever want out of a warrior: HP, BossBuffIgnore, Insane 1v1 dps, Insane mobbing, 10/10 mobility...
You will be stronger than your friend's DB unless they have enormous amounts of money over you.

Firstly, get the ghost ship badge. Your best and only badge in the game. If you boom this, you dont get another so care. Epic Pot Scroll this and Cube it.

Secondly, the best non-event medal is arguably Dimension Master, giving +7 allstat and +4 wep/mag att. You can do Dimension Invasion to get this (complete it 100 times). Give up on the evo one cuz no one parties for evo lab.

You didn't state your range. But looking at those equips, I'm going to assume you have around 120k Range.
Start off by getting clean CRA (Top Bottom Hat Sword) and FAST. (try to snag the sword especially... faf weps doubling in price by the day). They give you very very good set effects, and you can probably enhance them with StarForce so they become individually stronger than what you have atm. Epic Pot Scroll the CRA's and Cube when you got more money ($$NX$$). You can keep your sword for now... but work towards that Fafnir Penitent Tears. Perfect weapon with Spell Traces + Clean Slates.

If you got money leftover, snag Tyrant Hyades Boots/Cape. Use Starforce to get them to 7 stars.

Do the Tynerum Quests and get access to Gollux. If you already have, then work towards the entire lv 150 Superior Gollux Set, and scroll them with Gollux Scrolls. They will end up becoming A LOT stronger than your 9% tempest equips. (keep your stuff for now, until they do become better). Ofc, Epic Pot them and cube when you got money. Doing Gollux also gives you access to Commerci, so get SW Glasses. (sell'em or use'em. depending on what pot you get).

You should be busy for the next month or two trying to do this.[/quote]

Hello,
Thank you for the reply!

I've been browsing some DPS charts, most of which are kindda old and of course, none of them perfectly represent how strong a class is, but it gives me the gist of it. All of them seem to show that a Kaiser is equal or stronger than a Dual Blade. (On top of that, my friend says he's getting 1 hit koed in RLH again and again... thieves have low hp!)

I have the ghost ship badge now. I believe I can obtain the Evo Master medal because I have a friend that is willing to start and end evo runs with me. (And it also allows him to work towards the medal himself.) I was deciding between this and the Senpai medal, which has bonuses to speed but has a teeny weeny less stats.

My range varies from 120k to like 170k depending on transformed, hyper buff, etc. Your guess was quite accurate. I'm sad because when I bought the SW weapon there was a Fafnir one with only a little less attack for sale at about the same price. So... I should buy a Fafnir 2H clean? Why is this, is it because the SW set has an overall... That the armor is hard to come by or what? I personally still don't know. CRA stands for Chaos Root Abyss right, so "Fafnir" armor... Highness/Trixter/Eagle Eye. But what about the pots? My problem with cubing is that it costs real life money. I'm not in a shortage of money IRL however... let's just say there's an opportunity cost here since $3.77 = 1B. I can imagine cases where it's cheaper to buy a pre-done weapon that it is to do it myself. (I run into a similar problem with character slots. They effectively cost 2B to me. Can I manage to obtain equips that increase damage by 10% with 2B?)

I was thinking of buying clean Gollux items right now for the set effect. So... Are Gollux better than Tyrant? Now that enhancing is supposed to be easier, wouldn't Tyrant become a bit better relative to other equips?

Yes you should buy another char slot but i would recomend to make a demon avenger for the 10% dmg.

Kaiser is hands-down (after this week) the strongest warrior class.
Its got literally everything you could ever want out of a warrior: HP, BossBuffIgnore, Insane 1v1 dps, Insane mobbing, 10/10 mobility...
You will be stronger than your friend's DB unless they have enormous amounts of money over you.

Firstly, get the ghost ship badge. Your best and only badge in the game. If you boom this, you dont get another so care. Epic Pot Scroll this and Cube it.

Secondly, the best non-event medal is arguably Dimension Master, giving +7 allstat and +4 wep/mag att. You can do Dimension Invasion to get this (complete it 100 times). Give up on the evo one cuz no one parties for evo lab.

You didn't state your range. But looking at those equips, I'm going to assume you have around 120k Range.
Start off by getting clean CRA (Top Bottom Hat Sword) and FAST. (try to snag the sword especially... faf weps doubling in price by the day). They give you very very good set effects, and you can probably enhance them with StarForce so they become individually stronger than what you have atm. Epic Pot Scroll the CRA's and Cube when you got more money ($$NX$$). You can keep your sword for now... but work towards that Fafnir Penitent Tears. Perfect weapon with Spell Traces + Clean Slates.

If you got money leftover, snag Tyrant Hyades Boots/Cape. Use Starforce to get them to 7 stars.

Do the Tynerum Quests and get access to Gollux. If you already have, then work towards the entire lv 150 Superior Gollux Set, and scroll them with Gollux Scrolls. They will end up becoming A LOT stronger than your 9% tempest equips. (keep your stuff for now, until they do become better). Ofc, Epic Pot them and cube when you got money. Doing Gollux also gives you access to Commerci, so get SW Glasses. (sell'em or use'em. depending on what pot you get).

You should be busy for the next month or two trying to do this.