What should i upgrade?
Hmm so now that i have income, i was wondering what to upgrade.
Budget CAD $ 250~ maybe lower, but 250 is the max
Specs
System Model: Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
Graphics card: XFX Radeon HD 5670 (512mb)
Antec Earthwatts 500W PSU
Antec Sonata III Case
Canada sites only please :X
February 18, 2012
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[quote=hairamoose]THATS LOUD AS BAWLS. and it spins almost just as fast as my hardrive[/quote]
Undervolt it to 7V.
[quote=djpinc19]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001
120 x 120 x 38mm
5200 RPM
240.96 CFM
62 dBA[/quote]
THATS LOUD AS BAWLS. and it spins almost just as fast as my hardrive
[quote=djpinc19]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001
120 x 120 x 38mm
5200 RPM
240.96 CFM
62 dBA[/quote]
HAHAHA I saw a YouTube video of this, it's amazing! Isn't there a revised version with like 260CFM as well?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001
120 x 120 x 38mm
5200 RPM
240.96 CFM
62 dBA
[quote=djpinc19]Here's referring to [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2029706/0/Odd_wirring_sound.html]May 15th 2011[/url].
I've only found one picture showing the 4 screw holes for the front fan. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/Sonata_III/images/hddbays.jpg
I still can't find a confirmation on the exact location - I can't determine which side of the hard drive cage the mounts are located.[/quote]
Yeah thats what mine looks like. the hard drive cage is right there.. right in front
Here's referring to [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2029706/0/Odd_wirring_sound.html]May 15th 2011[/url].
I've only found one picture showing the 4 screw holes for the front fan. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/Sonata_III/images/hddbays.jpg
I still can't find a confirmation on the exact location - I can't determine which side of the hard drive cage the mounts are located.
[quote=hairamoose]if you remember, i have checked it once the odd cpu wirring sounds were coming out so its pretty clean and i checked yesterday night aswell[/quote]
Lol... no, actually.. I fell asleep before the Rachel Maddow Show started and just woke up so my brain is still getting restarted...
[quote=BobR]The first thing to do is take the cover off the side of the case and examine the fan and heatsink with a flashlight and see if it's clogged with dust.
If it hasn't been inspected since it was built, maybe it's just working against a layer of insulating dust bunnies.[/quote]
if you remember, i have checked it once the odd cpu wirring sounds were coming out so its pretty clean and i checked yesterday night aswell
[quote=hairamoose] I do not like the noise that is coming out of my case and the temperature it is emitting[/quote]
The first thing to do is take the cover off the side of the case and examine the fan and heatsink with a flashlight and see if it's clogged with dust.
If it hasn't been inspected since it was built, maybe it's just working against a layer of insulating dust bunnies.
Also, about the front fan mount, it has to have air ducting built into the plastic front of the case in addition to a punched hole for the fan (and mounting holes) in the metal of the case chassis. They may use the same internal metal part for multiple case models and the front fan opening may only work if the front that's snapped on has the proper venting designed into it for your model.
[quote=CrayonScribble]Fans don't make a terrible difference in CPU temperature, maybe 4-6 deg max. What you really need is an aftermarket CPU cooler.
And no it doesn't, your case only has one rear 120mm fan slot.[/quote]
uhhhh so the 4 holes in the front dosent actually serve a purpose?
[quote=hairamoose]So if i got a 120 mm case fan for the front of my case and a cpu fan that will signifigantly reduce noise and on load temps?
I agree with bulldozer -.- It was TERRIBLE[/quote]
Fans don't make a terrible difference in CPU temperature, maybe 4-6 deg max. What you really need is an aftermarket CPU cooler.
And no it doesn't, your case only has one rear 120mm fan slot.
i got my cpu for free NCIX contests ftw
i believe i have a fan mount right infront of my dust cover thing
I don't think the Sonata III has a front fan mount. Go check for me.
[quote=CrayonScribble]Jk, I went AMD too ): I nearly cried when the bulldozer came out, and definately not of joy.[/quote]
I bought my Phenom II X4 805 for $80 before the i5-750 was released. I got it for cheap because it had already been phased out and Fry's was clearing stock. It remains to be one of the best deals I had ever jumped upon.
So if i got a 120 mm case fan for the front of my case and a cpu fan that will signifigantly reduce noise and on load temps?
I agree with bulldozer -.- It was TERRIBLE
[quote=djpinc19]I'm certain hairamoose built his current rig before Sandy Bridge was even released. I even still remember that he uses the AMD stock cooler.
If you aren't going to aggressively overclock or overclock at all, you can use the $30 Hyper 212 PLUS or even the $20 Hyper TX3. Either option will drop CPU temperatures while generating less noise.[/quote]
Services him right for going AMD ^___^
Jk, I went AMD too ): I nearly cried when the bulldozer came out, and definately not of joy.
I'm certain hairamoose built his current rig before Sandy Bridge was even released. I even still remember that he uses the AMD stock cooler.
If you aren't going to aggressively overclock or overclock at all, you can use the $30 Hyper 212 PLUS or even the $20 Hyper TX3. Either option will drop CPU temperatures while generating less noise.
[quote=hairamoose]im pretty sure right now its decent atleast....
Also if there are no compentent hardware changes that i could do, maybe i could introduce some better cooling? I do not like the noise that is coming out of my case and the temperature it is emitting[/quote]
A motherboard doesn't make your computer run faster, it's like the glue that holds your computer together.
The motherboard you have is an AMD one which makes upgrading very difficult because so far all the new AMD CPUs are for a lack of a better word crap. The only way you could get a better CPU is to get a new motherboard (an Intel one).
Good cases/fans to make your case quiet would be Antec p280, Antec p183, Fractal R3 - good CPU coolers would be CM 212, any noctua CPU fan, and the Corsair H60/100 for being quiet. Good fans in general would be the Nexus basic fan.
[quote=CrayonScribble]That's mainly CPU based and since you have an AMD motherboard there's not much you can do.[/quote]
im pretty sure right now its decent atleast....
Also if there are no compentent hardware changes that i could do, maybe i could introduce some better cooling? I do not like the noise that is coming out of my case and the temperature it is emitting
[quote=hairamoose]I want satisfactory performance with my games. I do own NFS The run and the frame rates are low for me. Also for some reason minecraft lags for me and so does multitasking.[/quote]
That's mainly CPU based and since you have an AMD motherboard there's not much you can do.
[quote=BobR]So, what exactly is wrong with the way your computer is performing for you..?
If there's nothing wrong, why spend any money on it at the moment?
Why not just bank the money and wait until you actually see a need to upgrade?
By then the prices will have fallen on everything everyone's been talking about here, and new stuff will have come out rendering it obsolete anyway.[/quote]
I want satisfactory performance with my games. I do own NFS The run and the frame rates are low for me. Also for some reason minecraft lags for me and so does multitasking.
[quote=qwan456]Nvidia have done this a few times in the past.
The 7970 is a single GPU card and the GTX 590 is a dual GPU card (uses 2 underclocked GTX580). The GTX590 is approximately 20% better than the HD 7950, but the GTX 590 is still a $700 card whereas the 7970 is $550. The 7950 is also more power-efficient and run cooler (which can be said that it's not as noisy as the fan may not need to ramp up as hard).
If you are going to compare the GTX590 with any card, compare it with other dual-GPUs cards such as the 6990 or the future 7990. Edit: Apparently, DJP had already address this to you in another thread...[/quote]
She was not the only one, I addressed that to him in this thread when I mentioned the 6990 dual GPU and he proceeded to have a go at me.
[quote=pikachuxbboy]@CrayonScribble - That's because AMD sucks. They just redistribute their pre-existing GPU lines and say it's a brand new card. [/quote]
Nvidia have done this a few times in the past.
[quote=pikachuxbboy]Sure the 7xxx series use a new tech.. what was it? X sumtin? But sadly still sucks compared to the GTX 590 which has been out for awhile. Rather you be a AMD fan or Nvidia, we know where the power lies in. I still don't know why you're spewing out random video cards such as the 6990 when I obviously stated the 2 cards 7970 vs GTX 590.[/quote]
The 7970 is a single GPU card and the GTX 590 is a dual GPU card (uses 2 underclocked GTX580). The GTX590 is approximately 20% better than the HD 7950, but the GTX 590 is still a $700 card whereas the 7970 is $550. The 7950 is also more power-efficient and run cooler (which can be said that it's not as noisy as the fan may not need to ramp up as hard).
If you are going to compare the GTX590 with any card, compare it with other dual-GPUs cards such as the 6990 or the future 7990. Edit: Apparently, DJP had already address this to you in another thread...
@CrayonScribble - That's because AMD sucks. They just redistribute their pre-existing GPU lines and say it's a brand new card. Sure the 7xxx series use a new tech.. what was it? X sumtin? But sadly still sucks compared to the GTX 590 which has been out for awhile. Rather you be a AMD fan or Nvidia, we know where the power lies in. I still don't know why you're spewing out random video cards such as the 6990 when I obviously stated the 2 cards 7970 vs GTX 590.
Trust me, waiting 2 months to get a discount (more than $20) is worth the wait. He'll have more money to spend on some card that may come out thats better than what he originally wanted, and have enough to buy it. Just a word of advice. Don't do what I did, go crazy over the 7970 and see that it fails in comparison to the GTX 590. I'm waiting for Nvidia to release a new line to drop the GTX 590 in price by $50+ so I can nab it.
[quote=hairamoose]Hmm so now that i have income, i was wondering what to upgrade.[/quote]
So, what exactly is wrong with the way your computer is performing for you..?
If there's nothing wrong, why spend any money on it at the moment?
Why not just bank the money and wait until you actually see a need to upgrade?
By then the prices will have fallen on everything everyone's been talking about here, and new stuff will have come out rendering it obsolete anyway.
[quote=pikachuxbboy]I'd wait 1-2 months honestly. The 7xxx series is still spanking new and they can price them at wherever they want because Nvidia isn't doing anything about it atm. Though sadly, the GTX 590 STILL outperforms the HD 7970. You'd think AMD would create a GPU that can outperform the GTX 590 with their new lines.
[url=http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ec/ec483ef9_perfrel_1920.gif]Chart[/url]
The prices will drop for the 7xxx series, so I'd wait til their around $300-$400 USD. $450+ for a 7950 is a fair deal seeing as it performs the same as the GTX 580 which is priced at $550+. But it's the transition period as @djpinc19 stated. New GPU's will come out and I'm going to throw my GTX 560 Ti out my window and burn it in a bonfire when I buy a GTX 6 series.[/quote]
78xx is brand spanking new so ATI can price them at whatever point they like - but at the best pricepoint vs the current nVidia. Of course he could wait like 2 months + for the nVidia cards to come out so there would be more competition but tbh he'd only be saving around $20 at best maybe nothing at all. So waiting 2 months+ for $20 discount or so really isn't worth it.
Also of course the 7970 won't outperfom the 6990. It's a dual GPU vs single GPU. You want the AMD GPU line to double in processing power every generation? Rofl? And th 7990 will replace the 6990 outperforming it for those people who like the flex their ePeen with a GPU that they'll never stress more than 50%.
[quote=djpinc19]It's not the best idea to be buying on a budget during a transition period.[/quote]
I'd wait 1-2 months honestly. The 7xxx series is still spanking new and they can price them at wherever they want because Nvidia isn't doing anything about it atm. Though sadly, the GTX 590 STILL outperforms the HD 7970. You'd think AMD would create a GPU that can outperform the GTX 590 with their new lines.
[url=http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ec/ec483ef9_perfrel_1920.gif]Chart[/url]
The prices will drop for the 7xxx series, so I'd wait til their around $300-$400 USD. $450+ for a 7950 is a fair deal seeing as it performs the same as the GTX 580 which is priced at $550+. But it's the transition period as @djpinc19 stated. New GPU's will come out and I'm going to throw my GTX 560 Ti out my window and burn it in a bonfire when I buy a GTX 6 series.
[quote=djpinc19]It's not the best idea to be buying on a budget during a transition period.[/quote]
Well the 7950 completely owns the 580 pricepoint, so I'm pretty sure the 78xx series will win at every price point between $150-$300.
It's not the best idea to be buying on a budget during a transition period.
[quote=CrayonScribble]I suggest you wait 2 more weeks for the AMD 78xx line to come out, I'm sure there will be a $250 graphic card that'll outpreform all existing ones at that price point.[/quote]
hopefully i am allowed to actually spend 250$ :x
I suggest you wait 2 more weeks for the AMD 78xx line to come out, I'm sure there will be a $250 graphic card that'll outpreform all existing ones at that price point.
If you can upgrade to a 64 bit OS, that would initially help you get future proofed for a bit. As for running those titles, I'd get an EVGA GTX 560 Ti (On par with the 6970). You won't be disappointed. Unless you can't fork out around $229 for it, go witht he HD 6970 which is around $179 or cheaper.
[quote=hairamoose]The computer is mostly me and i would like to play :
Battlefield 3 (High Hopefully)
NFS: The run
Future titles (with medium graphics settings or higher)
Also RKyais why do you think a year i will have to rebuild? Its only been 2 years and 6 days since i got it.. :X Yes it was shipped to me Feburary 12th 2010 ^^
and i can upgrade the os because i do believe i have a 64 bit laying around[/quote]
The HD 6870 or GTX 560 Ti would work for your system.
[quote=hairamoose]The computer is mostly me and i would like to play :
Battlefield 3 (High Hopefully)
NFS: The run
Future titles (with medium graphics settings or higher)
Also RKyais why do you think a year i will have to rebuild? Its only been 2 years and 6 days since i got it.. :X Yes it was shipped to me Feburary 12th 2010 ^^
and i can upgrade the os because i do believe i have a 64 bit laying around[/quote]
You'll have to rebuild because you got yourself a crap ass 500W power supply and an AMD motherboard which will probably have no use in future gaming because AMD simply can't hold up in the high end market.
The computer is mostly me and i would like to play :
Battlefield 3 (High Hopefully)
NFS: The run
Future titles (with medium graphics settings or higher)
Also RKyais why do you think a year i will have to rebuild? Its only been 2 years and 6 days since i got it.. :X Yes it was shipped to me Feburary 12th 2010 ^^
and i can upgrade the os because i do believe i have a 64 bit laying around
Depends, what games are you playing?