Two questions about a Thief
Got the answers I needed, thread closed.
The first question is a pretty easy one directed to NL's and the second one is directed to both NLs and Shadowers.
1. Are Sins, Hermits and NL's fast (or even average) trainers? I've heard they're extremely slow so I'll need an opinion on that. If they're slow then I might make a Shadower again...
2. How much funding is required to be an 'average' NL or an 'average' Shadower'. So far I have a 6% luk earring to start with and about 500mil, is that enough or do I need more? I'm basically looking for price ranges on both, I'd like to have average (if not above average) damage and equips.
EDIT: I just realized I put this in the wrong section, sorry. Still looking for answers though.
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[quote=Darkshine]OKAY NLS ARE NOOOOT CHEAP
both evo rings = 1bil
crit ring = a lv 90 character.
angelix blessing = 250mil
80 atk claw with 30% boss = 2.1bil
MoN = "free" or 10mil
3% top = 150mil
3% bottom = 150mil
3% shoes = 150mil
3% belt = "dojo'ed"
atk or 3% cape =350mil
3% czhelm = 400-500mil
that amounts to 4bil + already
and you only have around 18% luk
+ 20 sets of hwabis? 5mil each[/quote]
3% equips in Zenith are about 30mil each and a blessing ring is only 80mil. I won't have to worry about stars since I could just grab 8-12 sets of ilbi off of my friend for like half of the price of normal ones. Thanks though, this was very helpful.
[quote=thinkfast7]Bahahah 500m for a shad or hermit good luck bro. Illbi and hwabis is all ur getting as stars for that much.. Maybe another 6-9% luk TOTAL if you're lucky that leaves you with enough for.. Pots and uhhh.. Maybe a 100%Ed skanda or pyrope skanda .. If you want a shad you'll get a wooden fence shield and clean daggers.. Thieves are expensive.[/quote]
I didn't say that I'd never get more than 500mil.
[quote=Shabzter]ive had zero funding although my att range is a bit below average (mostly coz i have 144 base dex)[/quote]
Thanks, this was actually very useful information for me.
[quote=SinL0rdz]We aren't slow... we lack a mobbing attack in 1st and 2nd job, but we somewhat make up for it with better mobility than some of the other classes. I believe Shadowers and Night Lords need about the same amount of mesos to fund, but it's a bit harder to perfect a Shadower's equips when you have to worry about a weapon and a shield.[/quote]
Awesome, thanks. I was mostly worried about the training. Getting the equips won't be much of an issue for me.
[quote=envoiscious]nls= cheap
shads=very hard to fund i have a shad quite hard to fund[/quote]
not really back then u needed like 3b to make ur NL avg and tht was wen the econmy was terrible like everything was cheap
but now becuz of dbs shadowers need like 5b funding although mesos is easy to get now
We aren't slow... we lack a mobbing attack in 1st and 2nd job, but we somewhat make up for it with better mobility than some of the other classes. I believe Shadowers and Night Lords need about the same amount of mesos to fund, but it's a bit harder to perfect a Shadower's equips when you have to worry about a weapon and a shield.
[quote=Darkshine]OKAY NLS ARE NOOOOT CHEAP
both evo rings = 1bil
crit ring = a lv 90 character.
angelix blessing = 250mil
80 atk claw with 30% boss = 2.1bil
MoN = "free" or 10mil
3% top = 150mil
3% bottom = 150mil
3% shoes = 150mil
3% belt = "dojo'ed"
atk or 3% cape =350mil
3% czhelm = 400-500mil
that amounts to 4bil + already
and you only have around 18% luk
+ 20 sets of hwabis? 5mil each[/quote]
Well he did ask for a "average nl or shad" not a over-average or godly nl.
And guess im not making a nl any time soon all i got in 25m lol
I think 70 att red cravens are 500 mil. How much would it cost for a no pot 90 att red craven?
[quote=DuhNamesKevin]Since when are 3% items 150m? They're cheaper than shads at least.[/quote]
well, they're really rare in bera due to our population. the less populated worlds, starting from khaini and up, maybe be alot cheaper, 80-100mil?
and yes, your daggers are much more expensive than our claws due to the fact that two classes use that weapon. if a thief legend comes out, we can expect claw prices to exceed even dagger prices.
[quote=envoiscious]nls= cheap
shads=very hard to fund i have a shad quite hard to fund[/quote]
OKAY NLS ARE NOOOOT CHEAP
both evo rings = 1bil
crit ring = a lv 90 character.
angelix blessing = 250mil
80 atk claw with 30% boss = 2.1bil
MoN = "free" or 10mil
3% top = 150mil
3% bottom = 150mil
3% shoes = 150mil
3% belt = "dojo'ed"
atk or 3% cape =350mil
3% czhelm = 400-500mil
that amounts to 4bil + already
and you only have around 18% luk
+ 20 sets of hwabis? 5mil each
Super slow.
For a NL do even compete with a mage in damage, you will need at least 5bil fund just to do the same damage as an unfunded mage.
average shadower? you need 5b expensive due to the dragon khanjars and dbs driving up my dagger prices </3
averange nl i'd say about 10b due to the superfunded ones boosting the average -.-
I'm getting ranges of about 2-3bil which shouldn't be that hard, maybe another 2-3 weeks in the FM. What about my question about NL training speeds (and funding for a NL excluding Evo Rings since I have both already).
for question number 2....about 2b to be an "average" shad in my perspective