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iEvanMaster

[quote=CherryTigers]@iEvanMaster I've been working on new key configurations and new attacks to test in cvel. Currently, I'm using my Phantom with hurricane. If you know, hurricane has almost a 1 second casting delay where you cannot move until that 1 second delay has passed. I haven't had any sort of problems at all with the attack. All you have to know is where to stand to cause cvel to come up at a certain location which is advantageous to yourself.

Even something like Vellum's vertical lunge. I wonder if spectral light can land 2 hits in. I think it's very possible and even more so, viable, if used in the correct situations. I'm curious now about luminous. I'm going to ask one of my friends to lend me their accounts so I can test this. I have a level 163 luminous and last I recalled, I was able to teleport away even in mid-animation as spectral light's end animation was going on. Then again, Blade dance from Xenon has no sort of delay as big as hurricane either.[/quote]

First off, I just want to say that I really admire your dedication towards the game, both at merchanting and bossing.

I know [b]exactly[/b] how it feels to boss with a bad computer, and having to make it up with good control, and even then there are certain things that simply cannot be done because the fps is just that bad sometimes, at least for me; not sure about you since you've just gotten a new computer.

For hurricane... I didn't really notice a delay using it,but I don't main phantom/bm and I haven't really played the game in months... however a few weeks ago when I logged in for the heck of it, I found that hurricane on my phantom stopped firing arrows each time the card stack reached 40, but that could've just been a glitch on my part or it was auto judgement's fault. Not sure if the same thing applied to RF as well, but from memory Rapid Fire seemed to have a longer attack range as well... then again it's probably mis-remembering on my part since it's been so long ago that I actually mained a Phantom.

For landing two hits in using Spectral, I'm going to assume you mean Vellum's [i]horizontal[/i] jump instead... I think you could do that, but you would have to position yourself pretty close to the edge of the hitbox of his attack, and aim the spectral light at the correct angle, since during the jump, vellum's hitboxes move according to his position on screen.

When Vellum uses that attack, sometimes I use that long delay to rebuff a decent skill or another buff instead of merely attacking him once, but that's just me. I had a bad habit of rebuffing too early sometimes lool.

As for tele-casting when releasing spectral, I'm aware you can do that, however the delay is still considerably longer than reflection's. Coupled with lag and tails chasing after you forcing you to re-position, that extra downtime can result in less dps than using Reflection, since you only have a limited amount of time to attack vellum each time he comes up.

I'm not saying Spectral isn't viable, it certainly is. But it's just my personal preference that Reflection is simply much easier to use I guess.

Besides, at the end of the day, as long as you can kill the boss and get the loot that's all that matters right? ^_^

Reply January 13, 2015

CherryTigers

@iEvanMaster I've been working on new key configurations and new attacks to test in cvel. Currently, I'm using my Phantom with hurricane. If you know, hurricane has almost a 1 second casting delay where you cannot move until that 1 second delay has passed. I haven't had any sort of problems at all with the attack. All you have to know is where to stand to cause cvel to come up at a certain location which is advantageous to yourself.

Even something like Vellum's vertical lunge. I wonder if spectral light can land 2 hits in. I think it's very possible and even more so, viable, if used in the correct situations. I'm curious now about luminous. I'm going to ask one of my friends to lend me their accounts so I can test this. I have a level 163 luminous and last I recalled, I was able to teleport away even in mid-animation as spectral light's end animation was going on. Then again, Blade dance from Xenon has no sort of delay as big as hurricane either.

Reply January 13, 2015 - edited

iEvanMaster

[quote=CherryTigers]Ah attack speed +1. I was curious about that attack speed because it almost matched fire poison mage paralyze speed.

Just a question I've always wondered: Why don't luminous ever use spectral light in cvel? Wouldn't it deal more damage, especially since the pally is pulling cvel's attention so no tails will appear under you?[/quote]

I'm going to guess it's because the ending delay on spectral light is [i]really annoying[/i], and that it's a similar situation to snipe vs beam dance for xenon:

While it's true that when both skills (Reflection vs Spectral) do the same damage, Spectral will have a higher hits per second. However, in certain situations where you can only get off a certain number of attacks in a short period of time; (i.e) Cvellum's burrowing, 1-3shotting the enemy with Reflection already; then the main advantage of using spectral, the higher dps, is now invalidated.

Not to mention that in CVel if the tails [b]are[/b] aggro'ed to you, then using spectral becomes even more unfeasible, as you already know.

Reply January 13, 2015 - edited

CherryTigers

Ah attack speed +1. I was curious about that attack speed because it almost matched fire poison mage paralyze speed.

Just a question I've always wondered: Why don't luminous ever use spectral light in cvel? Wouldn't it deal more damage, especially since the pally is pulling cvel's attention so no tails will appear under you?

Reply January 13, 2015 - edited

axel891

do it without shade or pally and i'll be impressed