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Expert Soul Seeker

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=74284&page=3

Angelic Busters receive a change to Affinity IV and a new skill called Expert Soul Seeker.

What are your thoughts?

- Created thread cus nobody made one

July 10, 2014

18 Comments • Newest first

Anthoy84

[quote=Dht567]I dont think there is going to be problem
"our goddess returns"

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50830&page=25[/quote]

Our main 1v1 damage is still reliant on Soul Seeker orbs, though. Nexon should either make Soul Seeker usable at bosses with invincibility frames, or buff Trinity.

Reply August 29, 2014
Dht567

I dont think there is going to be problem
"our goddess returns"

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50830&page=25

Reply August 26, 2014
butterfly24

[quote=iiPandaBoo]IMO: Expert Soul Seeker should just give +2 orbs to Soul Seeker that way we can have our old SS.[/quote]

That. Also, I don't think that skill would become that handy, when you're mobbing those hit only 1 mob and fly around, not that helpful as SS isnt a mobbing skill,
and when you're bossing you'd usually just use Soul Seeker. I can't see that skill becoming handy :X although cap increase is good.

Reply July 29, 2014
iiPandaBoo

IMO: Expert Soul Seeker should just give +2 orbs to Soul Seeker that way we can have our old SS.

Reply July 12, 2014
Anthoy84

Let's not forget that these changes have yet to be finalized.

Reply July 11, 2014
DreanBurster

[quote=Nenria]i still feel that that 25% chance to proc the effect of soul seeker is kinda low, if we compare our self with some other ridiculous classes like Zeros or clases that hit 10+lines in dmg i feel that they need to increse that chance to 50% and decrease damage of the souls to 50% [/quote]

Or, they could just make Trinity hit 10 lines and completely kill it's damage LOL

OT: I'm gonna enjoy this, even though I don't hit cap (it'll happen eventually). I agree with the previous comments that we should have some sort of booster. The new soul seeker expert looks weird, but hey, if it increases our dps slightly, it's something.

Reply July 11, 2014
Nenria

Soul Seeker Expert: When using active skills (except for Soul Seeker), your attacks will have a chance to automatically trigger Soul Seeker. (required skill: level 20 Soul Seeker) (max level: 10) Level 10: 25% chance to summon a Soul Seeker which does 70% of Soul Seeker's damage

Now compare it to other classes similar abilities:

Wind Archer
Trifling Whim III / Trifling Wind III (Passive)
Required Skill: Trifling Wind Iâ...� (MAX)
Harass the enemies with constant gale-force winds.
Level 1: 30% chance to shoot 4 spirit arrows that deals 217% Damage AND 15% chance to enhance those spirit arrows damage up to 303%.
Level 20: 40% chance to shoot 5 spirit arrows that deals 255% Damage AND 15% chance to enhance those spirit arrows damage up to 360%.

Night Lord
Night Lord's Mark
Further enhances the Assassin's Mark, increasing the chance, damage and number of throwing stars that shoot out.
Level 1: Leave a mark on attack at 42% chance. Attacking again will produce 3 Throwing Stars to deal 33% + 1% damage of player's level.
Level 10: Leave a mark on attack at 60% chance. Attacking again will produce 4 Throwing Stars to deal 60% + 1% damage of player's level.

That 25% chance defenetly has to increase considering Trinity just hits twice compared with the amount of hits both WA and NL do.

Reply July 11, 2014
iiPandaBoo

Agreed, Melody Cross should become a booster..

Reply July 11, 2014
Nenria

i still feel that that 25% chance to proc the effect of soul seeker is kinda low, if we compare our self with some other ridiculous classes like Zeros or clases that hit 10+lines in dmg i feel that they need to increse that chance to 50% and decrease damage of the souls to 50%

Reply July 11, 2014
Sorphedi

Get rid of Melody Cross and give us a booster! pl0x

Reply July 11, 2014
outfoxed

I think the idea is to move away from soul seeker spam to kill bosses, and to actually use 4th job skills to kill bosses.

Reply July 11, 2014
Koshimizu

That would be great and all, but I wouldn't find the extra orbs helpful in all that many cases.
In Dojo, Trinity or Roar until mobs don't die in one shot. When that happens, you'd move to Seeker.
There is little reason to keep using Trinity and hope for the seeker orbs to come out, that kinda kills dps for most bosses.
Training wise, it might help, if your orbs are strong enough to ohko mobs. For most of us, that wouldn't be the case.

Reply July 11, 2014
canerias

Its nice to get a final attack skill(or any kind of buff) but IMO one like this doesnt fit with current AB gameplay at all.

Usually you will be spamming Soul Seeker at bosses as it is your strongest move but Soul Seeker wont trigger this kind of final attack and when you use another skill(Trinity) its because Soul Seeker will be weaker(bosses with invincibility frames) which means that you wont be benefiting that much from Expert Soul Seeker .

This Expert Soul Seeker could have worked really good in the past back when AB didnt have a 100% recharge rate with maxed affinity 3 and 4 as you would be forced to use skills that will trigger it.

I cant see it working that good at mobbing either mainly due to the very slow Soul Seeker missile speed.

It would be nice if Nexon at least made this skill to trigger with Soul Seeker as well.

Reply July 10, 2014 - edited
Anthoy84

[quote=Koshimizu]Finally, a higher cap. ._.
That soul seeker expert looks pretty interesting as well. Any skill has a chance to throw out soul seekers, except Soul Seeker.
I guess that's not bad, but I wish Soul Seeker would've applied since I use that way more.[/quote]

But could you imagine? Each cast having a 25% chance to summon another two (albeit weaker) orbs, and I assume they have the same recreation rate...

If only.

In any case, these buffs are welcome with open arms. 70/120mil seems kind of weird for a cap, but I'll take it.

Reply July 10, 2014 - edited
iCodykins

The whole point of Angelic busters was to deal higher damage than everyone else, but in low-number-of-hits-bursts. I'm glad they're bringing this unique quality back to the class.

@Koshimizu: well at least other skill's DPS will increase (like Trinity) since it'll summon Soul Seekers.

Reply July 10, 2014 - edited
Koshimizu

Finally, a higher cap. ._.
That soul seeker expert looks pretty interesting as well. Any skill has a chance to throw out soul seekers, except Soul Seeker.
I guess that's not bad, but I wish Soul Seeker would've applied since I use that way more.

Reply July 10, 2014 - edited
angelicdnky

That would be awesome, assuming i could ever cap...

Reply July 10, 2014 - edited
okaythen

The affinity change is pretty big.
It increases your damage cap by 20mil.

Reply July 10, 2014 - edited