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Pdr calculations and Boss dmg vs Pdr reduction?

Hey recently came back to maple and I've noticed that upon obtaining more PDR, it really hasn't done much to my damage.
How is the new PDR calculated and how does it fair up against boss dmg%?

What is a decent amount of PDR?

At what point does it become not worth to trade off boss damage for PDR? Is there ever a time where it is worth?

Would appreciate someone's experience on this matter. Thanks.

January 9, 2014

4 Comments • Newest first

PlayThatMelody

[quote=kvopka]^ is completely wrong. PDR is better on almost every high level boss with defense over 50%. And large chunks of PDR and always better. Think about PDR this way, if you have ignore 40%, ignore 30% and ignore 30%. [/quote]

70% PDR boss, start with 30% ignore PDR:

(1 - (70%) * (.7) * (.7) ) = 65.7% damage
(1 - (70%) * (.7)) * 1.3 = 66.3% damage

I think you mean PDR is better on almost every high level boss with defense over 50% [b]when you have zero ignore PDR to begin with[/b], which is rarely ever the case. It only stays better if the resulting PDR is still above 50%. It was based on a monster's base PDR back when PDR was additive, not multiplicative.

[quote=kvopka][b]Imagine[/b] a boss with 300% def: 300 x 0.6 x 0.7 x 0.7 = 88.2% defense.[/quote]

Yes, continue imagining.

Reply January 9, 2014
Joopiex3

[quote=kvopka]^ is completely wrong. PDR is better on almost every high level boss with defense over 50%. And large chunks of PDR and always better. Think about PDR this way, if you have ignore 40%, ignore 30% and ignore 30%. Imagine a boss with 300% def: 300 x 0.6 x 0.7 x 0.7 = 88.2% defense.[/quote]

What PDR is hell gollux and Empress at?

Reply January 9, 2014
Joopiex3

[quote=ZakaerysII]PDR is calculated a product of sequence. Essentially, fewer amounts of larger PDR (30s, 40s) is superior to many small amounts (10s, 15s)

Boss Damage is generally superior (and more expensive) because many endgame bosses don't have much more than 70% PDR

You'll be fine at around 130% additive (shows up in the window)

Chaos Vellum is the only thing that comes to mind when PDR is generally better

(E: [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2690165]I highly recommend reading the sections on it in this thread, even if you are not an archer.[/url][/quote]

Appreciate it. Read through the section on the damage efficiency but I didn't see a direct formula. Do you know it? Or maybe I just read through it poorly.

@Playthatmelody

Do I know you? My name is not Kevin

Reply January 9, 2014 - edited
PlayThatMelody

Aim for % Boss Sir Kevin. Your current character needs more of it, I'm sure.

Reply January 9, 2014 - edited