General

[quote=gemstone139]My motivation: Play my ice lightning not for damage but because its such a versitile class to play with the attacks and its not repetitive like db's. Finally after chaos its getting boosted the most out of all classes while classes like mechs are gonna be nerfed to oblivion.[/quote]

If Dbs are repetitive, I dunno what Arch mages are. *ICE STRIKE ICE STRIKE* 4th is somewhat better to be honest but third, hell no.

Also the most boosted classes are DBs/Evans/Arans.

I always found skill builds to be the biggest motivation for me to level...

Especially now that I'm working on Maple warrior o.O
Although admittedly I quit my bishop because of Genesis cooldown

[quote=keekeepo]just wait for LHC try out other classes before then i guess[/quote]I don't see how something like Lionheart Castle is going to make it any better for my Arch Mage.

Arch Mage immediately spells out "huge issues getting a party for training", especially in a server as small as Kradia. Add in that Arch Mage damage sucks and you have an irrelevant area for my I/L.

The only real positive thing about that patch would be if UAs come out as well, allowing my I/L to no longer be a Blessing mule so I can delete it or something.

Just make another character. Thats what I did when dual blades came, having a blast with it so far and out leveled my arch mage

@Veneni: LOLZ

[quote=larryd23]@Veneni: I would have to disagree with you on that point. I enjoyed playing my mages, gaining experience, and leveling so that I could acquire new skills. Unfortunately, BB has made it so difficult for high level players to level that the benefit no longer justifies the cost.

For me to level my Bishop, I would have to train for approximately 50 hours. Personally, I'm unwilling to grind for 50 hours for one level. It's just not worth it. My I/L is in the same category. So if training is gone, what's left? Bossing? IMHO, no one is looking for I/L AMs to boss. Friends may let you join the party, but no one really wants us. The truth is that AMs were not built to boss. As for my Bishop, sure people still want Bishops. Problem here is that 1) with bosses being nerfed, you really don't need a Bishop on high level runs; 2) with bosses being nerfed you can't get into Zak or Scar without waiting for hours; and 3) I didn't build my Bishop to be an HS mule. Truth is that lvl 81 priests make the best HS mules.

It is what it is. Many of my friends are leaving the game. If Nexon wants to cater to the newbs, it's their company to do with as they please. We'll just move on to something else.[/quote]
Well if people don't want to take you bossing that's not your problem but theirs. Mages damage isn't that bad as everyone sais it is. Sure it's not THE BEST POSSIBLE damage, and you don't have a partyskill (which is ABSOLUTELY VITAL for EVERY SINGLE bossrun isn't it? f3). For bishops: Be glad others don't need as much support as before, now you can help some with damage instead and rake in some exp. A guildy bishop the other day managed to keep me at full hp and still do very decent damage at a scarlion run. You're only a hs mule if you want to be one.
I guess if you're high level it's easy to end up in a guild with the mindset of "you can't come cause you don't have a partyskill/good damage", but that kind of elitism is wrong and not the way an online game should be played and you should reject it.

About the slow levelling: I think you're exaggerating abit: My lvl 160 mage manages to get almost 10% an hour, which means 11.3mexp/hour, which would mean 4.42% an hour at lvl 174, or a levelup in 22 hours. And that's not counting the facts that you get +70 int, and you can go to higher mobs. (You do know there are mobs till lvl 168 to train on right?) Also, you're a bishop... you have HS. Are you always training in a party? That would be a flat out +20% exp right there :^/ Yes it's still tough, but you're lvl 174! It's supposed to be tough! You're supposed to go "ooh that's one pro mofo with dedication to his class" whenever you see a lvl 180+. It's part of maplestory. If you are complaining now allready, maybe you aren't one of those dedicated-to-the-class mofo's? And go do something else (like questing or starting a new char/job.)

Talking about making a new char: Nothing prevents you from making yourself to experience the said "catering to the newbs". If you are bored with your character, go play another one. Come back to your higher level when you feel like it, not because you feel obligated. It's a game not a job. I trained my mage for an hour today, because I felt like it, not for the exp, and had myself a blast. I could've levelled my thief instead, but didn't, even though I really want him to be 120 (117 now), I didn't feel like training him, so *ghasp* I didn't. I quit my higher levels, but they still manage to levelup from time to time like this.
But I guess if you don't like a number under 150 in the bottom left of your screen, it's probably best for you to move on.

In short: Stop trying to be useful at bosses, stop grinding your ass off when you don't like the reward for it, and start having fun. It's easier than it sounds.

@Veneni: I would have to disagree with you on that point. I enjoyed playing my mages, gaining experience, and leveling so that I could acquire new skills. Unfortunately, BB has made it so difficult for high level players to level that the benefit no longer justifies the cost.

For me to level my Bishop, I would have to train for approximately 50 hours. Personally, I'm unwilling to grind for 50 hours for one level. It's just not worth it. My I/L is in the same category. So if training is gone, what's left? Bossing? IMHO, no one is looking for I/L AMs to boss. Friends may let you join the party, but no one really wants us. The truth is that AMs were not built to boss. As for my Bishop, sure people still want Bishops. Problem here is that 1) with bosses being nerfed, you really don't need a Bishop on high level runs; 2) with bosses being nerfed you can't get into Zak or Scar without waiting for hours; and 3) I didn't build my Bishop to be an HS mule. Truth is that lvl 81 priests make the best HS mules.

It is what it is. Many of my friends are leaving the game. If Nexon wants to cater to the newbs, it's their company to do with as they please. We'll just move on to something else.

Race with a friend to see who reaches a certain level faster.

[quote=larryd23]I quit my lvl 166 I/L AM. Mages are pretty much worthless post-BB.[/quote]
Well it's a game. There is no point in anything. lol

I quit my lvl 166 I/L AM. Mages are pretty much worthless post-BB.

Watch cool vids like this one: http://www.basilmarket.com/show/video/18427/0/160_IL_arch_mage_training.html
Mages aren't weak btw whoever told you that is laaaaame
[quote=Expiscari]Imagine you could be given all the powers and abilities of a class in ms in RL.
Would you choose the ability to shoot a gun or a bow? To throw a throwing star? Or, god forbid, to swing a BW around?[/quote]
I dunno, summoning a huge hammer out of nowhere killing everyone in sight seems pretty fun to me (though mages can do that too with their ultimates x3)

To do every pq and boss known to maple so far
Edit: That maple has

I am stuck in the same hole, it's like from 13x to mid 14x there are ALL CRAPPY TRAINING SPOTS. I'm gonna say just wait for Leopard Mansion to come out. I have made a Marksman when I got bored of my AM (more than a year ago when they first nerf leech so I just found mindless grinding with blizzard without profit is just too pointless for me), came back to mage after big bang and it became super fun with the improved maxed CL (probably my favorite skill in game along with Piercing Arrow and Boomerang Step). Even now, when I am focusing on my bandit (my current main), I still love my ice mage and the only reason that keeps me from playing him is limited training options, so still waiting it out for more new contents while make a shadower <3 So just make a new class for now and hope that the Mansion will be good exp (expect some serious ksing issues though). Since you were able to buy your unwelcome guest equips aren't they currently the best ones out there right now? So you're still somewhere around the top.

[quote=Expiscari]It's funny how a lot of these comments demotivate me xD

Anyways, it really is worth it.
Last year when I started mapling, my main was a rogue(which i got to level 12) I promptly quit, and began browsing some random gaming site, and went to the maplestory section, and saw a guide for i/l arch mage. Back then, that sounded AWESOME, I didn't even know mages existed at the time, and Ice/lightning sounded pretty BA to me.

And here I am, I have wanted to quit many times, but have always been drawn back to this character. I've made arans, evans, F/P magicians, gunslingers, brawlers, thunder breakers, dawn warriors, night walkers, blaze wizards, hunters, crossbowman, and dual bladers, but the playstyle of the i/l mage is unique. Truly. Back a while ago, I used to dojo very often, and often found myself in parties with hermits, dragon knights, chief bandits, and other classes that stereotypically will always amount to more than us mages. The thing was, I was crucial for the party. Everyone always had multi-hitting attacks that do huge damage, but have only small individual numbers, With thunder spear, I could knock back frankenroid, Crog, and other bosses that would instantly kill those dexless hermits. When there was a boss that needed to be taken on in close proximity, and the warriors had taken too much damage to function, I was there, telecasting with my MG. Durability rivaling any warrior, and attacking mobility rivaling any thief. When Crog summoned his Jr Rogs, I froze them for the other classes to pick off; where otherwise the other party members would have been killed. I was the only one to be able to knock back manon in any of the parties i was ever in, using cold beam PRE BB.

I was already training at skeles at level 97 thanks to freeze and good equips.(before the new acc formula) albeit a bit slower than gallos.

After BB, I can SOLO manon in dojo, imo, many other classes cant do this till a bit later.

I watched a few vids of different kms i/l arch mages post BB, and they can HIT THE DAMAGE CAP once infinity reaches near its peak.

We are a great class. Awesome summon. Damage over time with some frostbite condition. Blizzard. CHAIN LIGHTNING. infinity...

Forget about everything about damage for a second.
Imagine you could be given all the powers and abilities of a class in ms in RL.
Would you choose the ability to shoot a gun or a bow? To throw a throwing star? Or, god forbid, to swing a BW around?
Personally, I wouldn't. I would choose the ability to wield the elements, ice and lightning being among my favorites.
This is the reason that I made an I/l in the first place.[/quote]

Wow, thank you. This really helps!

I didn't say anything about my damage. I just said I find my I/L boring.

I did a little bit of bossing but it still doesn't really spark me. I guess this is a sign that I should probably hang up my I/L. Not like Nexon's going to make it much better anyways.

Personally I'm just used to the fact that mages have always been weak- though I admit that the ultimate cooldown (although I'm in favour of it) is a bit of a blow to our training speed.
Now that we're half decent at bossing, I say go and kill all the bosses you never could before bb
And I do what firegoblet does- set yourself (achievable) goals and go for it! ^^

I took a break and made a BaM and WH.
Already I'm excited to return to my I/L, as soon as I get my BaM to 120..

[quote=iggovfrldi]Acess: youtube.com/igorfelixmiziara[/quote]

What in God's name..?

Blizzard was more fun than running around and hitting everything with CL which only hits 3 monsters..
Im not getting Exp anywhere near where I used to.

I dunno... I very nearly quit my I/L when I was lvl 114 because I saw that even with our boost i/L are still a weak class. (I came back and am now lvl 117.)