Community V.S. Hackers Legits and iLegits, Old and New
I started playing MS back way 2006 and encounter what we or some of us call back then the "dark era". This was when all VAC hackers can be found like in every map of every ch and even in every town flying around. A year after, nexon somewhat started to reduced the hackers in the game and most hackers stay in dark to continue hacking. This is when the MS community started to become vigilant when it comes to hacking/hackers. If they found out that you are a hacker or had a history of hacking, you prolly end up being banned in most of the boss run which is Zak and Pap and most of the guild Leaders required background check if you want to join their guild. Background check means they will check the ranking in the official site and see if your name pop out or not. Or if you really are a trusted person even tho u have a history of hacking, guildies can vouches for you to get in the guild.
Now, hackers are very open in the public and most maplers even have pride on being a hacker. They don't need guild to boss since them alone can solo even the hardest boss in the game. We are even open to buying hack equips or associate with hackers just to get an edge in the game and there are lots of hacker guild. In short, hackers are everywhere.
Since im kinda semi quit in the game when chaos came out, i really don't care about hackers anymore but i kept my guild hacker free till the last day and i never hacked or bought hacked equips. i maybe the weakest hero/mech you will ever see but yea i like playing clean .
In your own thoughts, how well are the hackers accepted now a days in MS community? are they really part of the community now and essential to maintain the current community? Which community is better, the old one or the current?
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Don't linger in the past. and IMO I think today's hacking is 3X worse
massive duping, MTS leaks, Normal hacks ingame, and hacks to hack people.
rediculous...
I saw this as well. You were EXTREMELY blocked out of the community if you hacked, as you said. I then quit at Dec 08 and moved to KMS.
I came back for Big Bang and went to Zenith. I thought it was RIDICULOUS on how much things have changed. You are accepted if you had a legit character, but illegitly funded. You are accepted if you hack on another character but legit on one. You could also bring that hacked character as long as you have a decent legit character.
I was shocked at the huge change. Maple's society sure trashed in 2 years or so.
I didn't care about the Dark Era because it didn't really effect the economy... the hackers were nearly all leechers due to Wizet's crappy security. Hackers these days are more about controlling the economy or bettering themselves rather than botting to level. In that sense I see THIS era as a darker one than the previous.
@Mysterieuse: Maiev is level 200 axe hero i think, but thomas was talking about my friend Maivs who is a NL and yea SinzMalice really sound familiar. Im not sure but i think i bought some gear before from you don't remember which though.
OT: just to clear up to other people. This is not a comparison how good old MS compare to new MS. I just want to see how much we the new community (altho im still part of old) deal with hackers or help the community in terms of hacking. Obviously we can't blame all of it to Nexon cause we all knew that the community plays big part too on this game.
i met a lot of good people at [b]pig beach[/b] way back when gold ore farming was a means to get money. back then i didn't really care about having godly equips or dealing 200k crits and what not. all there was back then was my sense of adventure and my trusty fish on a stick (good for whacking away at those green slimes or pesky boars). quite frankly mushmom was force to be reckoned with haha
@kitchie3: Yea, the community either don't care/ignore you. But when it come to the person you personally attack on smega, they either preach the fact they are godly showing off their items with items smega, attack you back, treatening us to get our account hacked/DC hacked or that they will KS us forever. Don't they have anything better to do? They know we know they are hacker and when you mention it they get all mad, as if it was a secret. Seriously, I don't understand what is going on in hacker troubled mind.
Edit: Btw I think I may know you, but I do remember Maiev, she was a friend of mine back then in windia, we was a paladin using 2H axe if I recall I'm an ex Windia player, left it in summer 2009 because the hacking people in there was getting out of control D: my IGN used to be ODAngel. I don't know if you remember SukiMahouAV or SinzMalice?
[quote=Mysterieuse]I was thinking that Nexon should give some of us (old players) some sort of GM power. Since there isn't any logged on to patrol servers and different channel, it would be nice for them to hire us legit players to patrol and fight against hacker. It doesn't mean we would have to chase those hackers all the time but trust me it would make a difference if some of us could ACTUALLY ban some players when having proof. The report player system is just plain lame joke: You may only report one player daily for the modic ammount of 5000 mesos.
What does it change? Do we ever know if our report are actually doing something? To me, it seems like if Nexon is limiting us on reporting players who cannot play propelly, there must be friends with those hackers and such.[/quote]
Yeah, reporting hackers/botters were pain in the neck even back then. The only solutions we did before was just mass reporting from help of friends and guildies or sometimes Smega. But now even you smega an Obvious hackers, people just don't care and just ignore you.
I was thinking that Nexon should give some of us (old players) some sort of GM power. Since there isn't any logged on to patrol servers and different channel, it would be nice for them to hire us legit players to patrol and fight against hacker. It doesn't mean we would have to chase those hackers all the time but trust me it would make a difference if some of us could ACTUALLY ban some players when having proof. The report player system is just plain lame joke: You may only report one player daily for the modic ammount of 5000 mesos.
What does it change? Do we ever know if our report are actually doing something? To me, it seems like if Nexon is limiting us on reporting players who cannot play propelly, there must be friends with those hackers and such.
@thomas1985: haha we do, she just graduated from college Yeah FOG was always full packed back then and DK's were the ks'ing machine lol.
[quote=JacobTheHero]I think it was better in the good ol' days. Vac hackers, botters and people using Nodelay didn't ruin the game as much as the hackers do nowadays. Now it's all about duping, No boom, DC hackers and keyloggers.[/quote]
I agree with this. Although, the game does need more GM support to become successful in it's current downfall run.
@kitchie3 Will do, you say hi to Kirsty from me! Didn't remember you two knew each-other IRL. And yeah for me the best time was @FoG as well...wow did I curse those high lvls (3rd job and further) that had roar and arrow erupt/rain .
[quote=Syxd]Oh.. The good ol' days. It used to be the LHC of 2006.[/quote]
For me it was FOG met lots of really good players there.
Oh so fun, I was camping at fm 4 ch 2 for this dude to open his Douped store cheap items I need Good %Str.. Id camp for awhile 6 times. 3 differnt hackers Dced me from fm 4. Also is it true if you buy items from hackers you should change your password?
That Ant Tunnel.
[quote=thomas1985]Hey Collete, I remember playing with you and Maivs....all the anego's we slayed . But yeah old community was way better. I think we could still do fine without hackers, but todays players are too spoiled and greedy to stay 100% legit. For example: almost everyone seems to train at glitched maps (which are actually created with hacks). As long as people profit from hackers/hacks/glitches everyone seems to be fine with it :s.
Those equips aren't hacked. The summons from Empress have been killed in legit ways by mutiple groups/people. Those summons drop cape recipe and equips (though not the weapons, they drop from Empress alone).[/quote]
Hi thomas , yea the glitch spawn really trigger me quitting on MS. I was already 180 on my mech when that glitch started. i was doing fine even im the most noobiest mech in LHC with like 15% dex pot all in all Lol. But the glitch spread and it's like impossible to train normally without the glitch spawn.
and sorry about the Empress thingy, actually i was talking about PB on that one . I haven't played in like months and didn't know that empress is available in GMS now haha. But yea community really plays big part on what GMS is right now.
P.S. say hi to joost too from me and kirsty
Hey Collete, I remember playing with you and Maivs....all the anego's we slayed . But yeah old community was way better. I think we could still do fine without hackers, but todays players are too spoiled and greedy to stay 100% legit. For example: almost everyone seems to train at glitched maps (which are actually created with hacks). As long as people profit from hackers/hacks/glitches everyone seems to be fine with it :s.
[quote=Acidly]They are hacked the knights have been killed, Cygnus has not she is glitched. [/quote]Those equips aren't hacked. The summons from Empress have been killed in legit ways by mutiple groups/people. Those summons drop cape recipe and equips (though not the weapons, they drop from Empress alone).
^ but there's something we can do as a community. As i said before, the old community did not tolerate hacking. So if we do the same thing, not supporting hackers. we might do something, maybe not that much but it could be start. But then again, we already accepted hackers as a part of the community.
So i guess the community itself killed the ms right now and nexon is like a dagger to the heart for not fixing what hackers are doing right now? </3
Thats a tough one though, not buying hacked equips, i am 100% legit, and everything i have i scrolled or cubbed to pretty Godly. I was willing to spen nx to do it.
I agree the hacking has got out of hand, and nexon seems to like proffiting from it, i mean they knew about dupping, and the MTS GM scrolls selling dirt cheap.
There is no way that Nexon does not monitor this game, and know whats going on, it would be suicide not to for any Bizzz.
They need a GM pressance in the game again, the maple whatever they were called (Brigade) failed miserably, because most quit or move on.
BTW I beleive the empress stuff thats selling is from killing the bosses, not the empress herself, i have never seen a notice saying she died yet. So i beleive they may actually be legit.
[quote=thanhtu]i love the old one, i'm sick of the current system now, i think nexon should make all boss need to have all pt member to be in, so if they hack, then ban them all![/quote]
yea, but people accept hackers now in the community. We even support them by buying the equips they sell that they got from hacking. Before no one buys from hackers.
i long the times of 100k panlids.
Old economy wins