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I know what you mean Kira. But, I meant that for the most dedicated(lol?) players.
Nexon should just make that timer map thing. >.>
With the new potential system, I don't doubt people doing bfs in under 5mins.
In fact, I think CBFrancisco/Csenger/ChickenSoup/BluexDesire <=== shadowers, all do sub 3minute runs. obviously alone.
A LOT of heroes can do that, if not faster, (VoltesV/VarsityHero/Nerola(w/ both a sword and axe), haven't seen any paladins with potential equips... yet.

I understand what you mean, but I don't necessarily mean that you have to be up in the middle of the night, it's just that, sometimes, it's easier to find them. Also, a LOT of my friends lived in Scandinavian countries, so they just did it before going to school in the morning.

[quote=PraisedAura]I'm not an expert but I'm fairly experienced.

Rush in my perspective works rather oddly. When Bigfoot is doing its attack frames (stomp) it's more prone to being KB'd by rush and flying all over the place, whereas the walking/standing/jumping(?) frames are easily KB'd by damage and often leaving it vunerable to whoever attacked it shortly after. Timing is imporant and will aid in your control.

-Paladins > Buccaneers in most battles considering they make more use of Guardian (which really does help A LOT in your favor)*, Buccaneers often lack the HP requirement to survive Bigfoot (unwashed, even at 200, we cannot tank a hit), and Paladins can rush around ; with Bigfoot being fire weak, just makes it easier for them. Control should always be a rather large factor. If facing an HP washed Buccaneer, refrain from leaving it pinned and constantly keep in running around the map with rush/blast/rush/etc.

-Paladins are on par with Heroes often unless both are rediculously funded, then the Hero might have the advantage due to the damage cap dillema and speed advantage Brandish has over Blast.

-Tip: NEVER use "Threaten" during KS situations as it will make it much less fun and more likely for your opponent(s) to survive.

*I say this purely because I have only met Paladins that bother adding onto Guardian, compared to Heroes adding onto another skill often.[/quote]

Paladins > Heroes on BF. Brandish and Blast are the same speed. Brandish deals 988% damage with 10 orbs, while Blast deals 1290.5% damage with Fire + Lightning charge.

[quote=BrazenBlitz]Like I said, I was ks'd by Barsark, in my Broan days, quite a bit. I also remember my Paladin/Hero friends complaining to me about Buccs ksing 'em.
I guess you're right. O.o If a hero/paladin rushes it away, they could win.. but I mean, getting a hit in is hard. But I did notice that you could rush and unpin bf once it starts going stomp-happy.

I don't see why people even want to be in a ks war. O.o
If I were you, I'd bf in the middle of the night, (2-5am pst) with 2x exp card + people to leech who have 2x party buff and make them search for bfs while you kill.
Easy exp if you can manage to take him down in 7-10 mins.
I know that Steve, chickenpoodl, did this quite a bit to get through 19x.

But still, if you have a wifey who is a bishop/am+hsmule it would just be better to dual skeles with them.

Well, I guess that was before they implemented that weird party system.[/quote]

The problem with that is that not everyone wants to be awake in the middle of the night playing a MMO. Most level 150+ people these days can kill BF in <8mins, I mean, even I can.

[quote=PraisedAura]Not to mention there are friendkly KS wars, in which one person and another (or more people) are included in killing a Bigfoot, whoever getting the larger amount winning.[/quote]

Fun stuff.. I'm a lot better on my buccaneer at this than I am on my Hero.
My only problem Is that I don't keep bigfoot away from the others.. and I keep it to close to them =(
Idk how to fix this, I rush > Barrage > rush..

I guess. O.o
But if you do it at night and if you know people who usually control bf spawn then you shouldn't have a problem.
But the problem is that there aren't enough bfs and maps.
They should make some of those timer map things. O.o You know the one like restoring memory.. w/e it's called.

Sometimes when you are selling leech, someone just starts ksing o__o; so it's handy to know incase you come across them selling leech if you know what i mean f6.

[quote=PraisedAura]Any experienced Hero/Paladin can unpin a Demolitioned Bigfoot with some practice/timing. It's just a matter of keeping the Bigfoot away from us if you wanna win. Trust me, we aren't Gods, lol. HB mules are for noobs [/quote]Like I said, I was ks'd by Barsark, in my Broan days, quite a bit. I also remember my Paladin/Hero friends complaining to me about Buccs ksing 'em.
I guess you're right. O.o If a hero/paladin rushes it away, they could win.. but I mean, getting a hit in is hard. But I did notice that you could rush and unpin bf once it starts going stomp-happy.

I don't see why people even want to be in a ks war. O.o
If I were you, I'd bf in the middle of the night, (2-5am pst) with 2x exp card + people to leech who have 2x party buff and make them search for bfs while you kill.
Easy exp if you can manage to take him down in 7-10 mins.
I know that Steve, chickenpoodl, did this quite a bit to get through 19x.

But still, if you have a wifey who is a bishop/am+hsmule it would just be better to dual skeles with them.

Well, I guess that was before they implemented that weird party system.

Oh, thanks for all the help. I guess i was looking for a reason as to why i suck at ks wars :c

Buccaneers are the gods of BF.
I haven't even looked at the updates recently, but if Buccs still have their invincibility frames they can ks ANY class at bf.
Most classes wouldn't even be able to get a hit on a BF once a bucc starts using demo. :o
And with potentials, i'd assume it takes under 5 minutes for decently funded buccs to down a bf.

For a paladin vs a hero, it would come down to character control. Sure the paladin has raw damage, courtesy blast, but due to it's short range that does not afflict brandish, a hero would have it easier when it comes to rushing and brandishing the bf.

So, for a hero and a paladin, it's a toss up. For any of the warriors vs the bucc, it goes without saying that it's the buccaneer.

@ JingHang:
That's if they get hit by bf. >.>
Most people would just have a hb mule around, while washing a bit as well. f3

@ TS:
The speed of blast and brandish is essentially the same. Though, I think, Senyain did a comparative analysis and proved that blast is a little faster than brandish, but the speed advantage is almost negligible that it doesn't even need to be taken into any consideration when comparing the classes.

@Praised:
I haven't met any Paladin with guardian added to their arsenal... then again I haven't played this game in a year or so. Not to mention, when I quit there weren't a lot of paladins around for me to compare with. I know that Tim(GenghisKon), never added any skill points into Guardian, neither did Caleb (ManualMedia) or Blaine(EniaIb). But they didn't finish adding points to their skills. So, they may have in time.

[quote=mrsinna]I saw you there was a ks war between you a hero a Evan and idk maybe a bucc? I was also there trying to hit it with assualter but I think I died.[/quote]

That was confusing, because no one knew who the bf belonged to o_____o;
I was just following you to it.

Edit: 2 people said that the speed of blast and brandish is equal, and someone said brandish was faster . . . -confused-

I've heard that Bigfoot is nerfed in the Big Bang patch..

Apparently, from what I've heard, he only has 3.5m HP and 500k exp.

Blast has smaller vertical range, but that doesn't help KS because BF is one platform.
Brandish/Blast same speed with same weapon.
Maxed rush, I have no idea.

Also note: @ the first poster. Post-patch, although Blast may be stronger with Fire, Bigfoot has a 50% Damage reduction (it's either tha tor 20%) which Paladins have to manage. However, Heroes have Enrage = 40% more damage on one target. So I wouldn't be hasty in saying Paladin DPM > Hero DPM.

EDIT: don't take me wrong, I'm not saying Heroes > Paladins in DPM. Just saying, there are other factors that affect DPM, and the new Defence system seems to be overlooked...A LOT.

EDIT again: Buccs lose to both classes. Not enough HP to survive a hit if rushed.

ooh i see. yes it does clear some things up.

so it all comes down to control when rushing it everywhere? o__o