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Correctly banning UE Exploiters

This is a pretty simple solution..
And like I said in the other thread,

Compile a list of all the UEs created after October 26, 2011
Compile a list of all the people who spent NX/got gifted NX on said UE character
Cross reference to see if UE has royal/VIP/EXP hair, eyes, color
Doesn't match? Ban hammer.

Edit: For people who don't get it: You need to spend NX on hair coupons in order to get royal/VIP/Exp hair, correct? The exploited UEs don't need the coupons because they can choose freely before character creation. So if you didn't spend NX or get NX gifted to you and you have let's say, royal hair, then you are considered an exploiter.

Edit 2: It's funny that we're not arguing whether or not if it's a good or bad idea. We're arguing whether we should care or not. Good ol' Basil.

October 30, 2011

156 Comments • Newest first

branzx2

@InLoLiNaToR: They probably won't, Their main focus is on restoring lost players now.

Reply November 3, 2011
fleeb

They banned Legit Adventurers who got their skill through the Lunar Dews

Reply November 3, 2011
prince1020

Thats what me and my friends were exactly saying over skype
If they did that then they wouldnt have gotten a ton of tickets today ./facepalm

Reply November 3, 2011
wolf9891

I like the idea but nexon would find a way to screw this up and still ban legits.When i heard that all they do is get KMS coding translate it and paste it i was like wow explains why they cant make any GMS special content without it having horrible bugs and glitches...

Reply November 3, 2011
Doogs

NO!
I made my legit UA after then and Im pretty sure my hair is royal from random beauty coupons!
There must be some other way

Reply November 3, 2011
marimois

[quote=Arios]You're mixing up UE exploiters and dupers.[/quote]
some buddy gave me a link to a forum where some haxors where saying the channels where messed , due to the overload of UAs

Reply November 3, 2011
MarshMallows

What's funny is how some people said to mind your own business and that we shouldn't care, and now the legit community is affected as well.
Yay for exploiters and Nexon's brainless staff

Reply November 2, 2011
wickedfizzy

Funny that I honestly haven't seen much change in the Maple gameplay from the addition of all of these exploited UA characters. I mean sure I see more at the LHC parties adn etc. But its not like it made more players play or anything, since most people would not be playing their mains while they are playing the exploted UA that they have created. I personally have a level 120 NW and a UA hero myself, and I don't really care that this has happened because they are hackers. This does not effect my gameplay as much as a HUGE GM SCROLL DUPING SESSION. And nexon did nothing about that until there were like MILLIONS of them. SO seriously YES this is a good Idea to do it. BUT, the history of nexon implementing such a process without banning the odd LEGIT player here and there is impossible. So sure it is a good idea, and I would support if nexon had the audacity to do it

Reply November 2, 2011
branzx2

^Dude above me looks like hes from LostSaga... *cough* Exploited...

It would be nearly impossible to ban them all. There just a regular job ID, None different from any other of the explorers. The skills are obtained by a Quest that is forced onto those jumpstar characters (UA's). As for the Eyes and Hairs, There is probably hundreads of unreleased, Even more. Not all the GM's are probably aware of which ares are implemented and which arent.

Also since its a P-Exploit, The system can't recognize it seeing the packts are "Legit". And then someone who would try to get a second UA would delete his other cygnus cause its useless. Etc, Its just so much work and tens of thousands did it on tons of accounts.

Reply November 2, 2011 - edited
B00imaCLERIC

@TenshiXIII:
Well, the video I saw on basil allowed you only to make [b]ONE[/b] UE per [b]ACCOUNT[/b].
Note that there are multiple methods for this exploit.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
TenshiXIII

@B00imaCLERIC: You can make one ua per character...shows how much you know...
Then theres the botting they do to kill the mobs.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
Arios

[quote=marimois]because of them the dam server has only 7 channels working (atleast in windia)[/quote]

You're mixing up UE exploiters and dupers.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
marimois

[quote=Petizh]They shouldn't ban the exploited UEs I think... Who cares, like really?[/quote]
because of them the dam server has only 7 channels working (atleast in windia)

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
AjsNoDexDit

Really exploited UA didnt cause any real harm why is this such a big deal to people...

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
Lejendus

What about Claudia's hair quest? You can get NX hair from that without spending a dime. And the fact that you can simply pass over hair coupons from your mains through the cash vault? Also a possible flaw. The accuracy with which Nexon can filter out the hacked UEs from the legit ones fully depends on how detailed their logs are. It's possible to get them all, but it's also possible that it's not possible.

But let's face it. Any potential solution would require effort, something Nexon isn't likely to put in.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
FryDemCats

stop crying about.
Did the Ua exploit really affect you at all?
No it didnt.
So get over it.
We arent gonna get banned.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
Earjobber

Knowing nexonAM, they're not going to bother

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
omegafusionx

I don't even care if there are UE exploiters, like, seriously, hackers are a god send to the game in some cases. They lower the prices on alot of high level things.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
jimmyjxia

Being an NX fashion geek, I feel inclined to exploit this UE thing you all are talking about. I want to get auto-royal eyes. Some of them aren't even out yet but are in the extractions. I WANT THOSE >:O

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
MarshMallows

Meh at least they patched it :c
Oh wells.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
Icephoenix21

Nexon is too lazy to ban any of the ua's.

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
HUGSforFAME

@vsnxmee: Oh hi! Yeah that's a very common typo I make lol. But yeah, HEY!

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
EpicNarwhal

@shivam101: Don't be face palming me, Ill slap yo face up in a flash you won't even see it coming.

Yeah, but you can get royal hair from those coupons. And it's not not a waste of time. The whole point of KoC's now is to get to 120 and make a UE out of it. I don't see why making a UE without having to get 120 levels before it should be something that's a "waste of time,".

Reply November 1, 2011 - edited
vsnxmee

[quote=HUGSforFAME]LOL, I'm the idiot. Please learn how to use "your" correctly before calling others idiots. Others say I'm an idiot? No where do I see in people's responses that they have pointed out that I am an idiot, except for you. You are entitled to your own opinions as am I. People disagree with me, and I don't mind it so long as they have their reasons why, which you don't... except for the fact that you just generally believe I'm an idiot. From everything I have gathered from your responses, you are one stubborn child, perhaps more stubborn than me. And you have yet to prove that I approve of hacking. Also, hypothetically speaking, if others do say I am an idiot, is that not their opinion? I know MY posts are based on MY opinion, that is simple logic. If you think I am an idiot based on what you gathered from my opinions then ok, but [b]oyu[/b] are failing to see what I have to say. You think I am the idiot; I think you're the idiot, I think we can pretty much conclude what will happen if we keep having this discussion.[/quote]

I couldn't help it... -grammar nazi QQ-
I PQ'd with you yesterday. :O You were the one who yelled at my friend for making me pick up the money. XDD

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
alwayswimmin

@Kyoraku: You might be right, but if that's the case, how does Nexon do rollbacks?

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
HUGSforFAME

[quote=skullowls]@HUGSforFAME: Lol your an idiot,it has been stated by others that your an idiot,your post is based on your opinion and yes you are saying hacking is ok.[/quote]

LOL, I'm the idiot. Please learn how to use "your" correctly before calling others idiots. Others say I'm an idiot? No where do I see in people's responses that they have pointed out that I am an idiot, except for you. You are entitled to your own opinions as am I. People disagree with me, and I don't mind it so long as they have their reasons why, which you don't... except for the fact that you just generally believe I'm an idiot. From everything I have gathered from your responses, you are one stubborn child, perhaps more stubborn than me. And you have yet to prove that I approve of hacking. Also, hypothetically speaking, if others do say I am an idiot, is that not their opinion? I know MY posts are based on MY opinion, that is simple logic. If you think I am an idiot based on what you gathered from my opinions then ok, but oyu are failing to see what I have to say. You think I am the idiot; I think you're the idiot, I think we can pretty much conclude what will happen if we keep having this discussion.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
skullowls

@HUGSforFAME: Lol your an idiot,it has been stated by others that your an idiot,your post is based on your opinion and yes you are saying hacking is ok.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
asinboy

[quote=mastasausage]What about the UE exploiters with normal hair and eyes?[/quote]

theyre ruled out after they separate who used royal hair/face

EDIT: read the question wrong. i guess that they wont get banned

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
HUGSforFAME

@skullowls: Hmm, nope, I already reread it countless times as to make sure I specifically said what I needed to say. I even considered maybe I am in the wrong here for considering other people's feelings. If you had the time to respond that [i]I[/i] needed to reread my post, then perhaps you should reread it and find the places where I openly said hacking was okay or not okay, because you are missing the point entirely. However, judging from your previous posts, I have very low expectations that you will actually find evidence for what you believe, let alone that you will actually go back and pick apart my argument.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
ryuushinou

@darkhshadow: Well that doesn't change my method much. You can still catch hackers with my 3/4 steps?

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
csh1579

What if I bought perma nx and x-ferred to my UA?
Your logic is beyond flawed.
For hacked UA.. what if they're wearing a scar/targa? Nexon can't just 'remove' that.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
HUGSforFAME

[quote=skullowls]@HUGSforFAME: Its funny cause your saying hacking is ok,so i hope you get hacked.[/quote]

I don't think you understood my argument. As I said before, I left my personal views on hacking out of my entire response. No where did I imply hacking was ok; no where did I imply that I disapproved of it. If you had the common sense, you could have figured that out.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
Itachi9821

I heard it got patched, so it doesnt matter anymore

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
skullowls

@HUGSforFAME: Its funny cause your saying hacking is ok,so i hope you get hacked.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
HUGSforFAME

@xBunnyHerox: If you read the entire thing, you would have noticed that I said legit UEs may not want sympathy to begin with. I did take into account that people actually enjoyed earning their UEs. Also, I'm not making excuses to ban illegitimate UEs, I never said anywhere that I wanted them banned; I left my personal views on that matter out for a reason. My whole argument was based on the callousness of other players, not whether UEs should be banned or not. Your response has only further proved my point that players only care about themselves, if you don't want other players to care for you, then so be it. I'm only saying that players who only care about something that directly affects them are selfish and should reconsider what they say.

@skullowls: And it's funny how I still fail to see my lack of common sense

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
dahuntaa

[quote=MapleCop]Wanna bet that from all of my 20 UAs none will be banned? [/quote]

how do u make one?

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
dahuntaa

[quote=irDillon]Well I got some Royal hair and eyes from the random coupons..... and they'll just make more UA's with reg eyes/hair. -___-[/quote]

uhm you cant get royal hair and eyes from the pink envelope event......

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
dahuntaa

i saw a cannoneer ue i was like.... what the hell? how do they do that?

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
ryuushinou

My friend told me that these UE/UA hackers use a random IGN from the rankings and use that as a basis to make the UE/UA. If that is true then:

1. List all UE/UAs
2. List all lvl 120 CKs
3. Cross reference with CK successor list (UE/UA) and actual list of lvl 120 CKs
4. Tada?

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
xBunnyHerox

[quote=HUGSforFAME]I honestly cannot believe it when people say it doesn't affect them personally. Sure, it may not DIRECTLY affect you, but think of all the others it does affect. For one, many people worked hard to earn their UE. I, myself, have never made a UE, but I know people spend days or weeks, maybe even months, to get their CK to 120, and then many more additional hours to collect their peridots. Have some empathy. When people say they don't care, what DO you care about? Do you only care about yourself. And I'm not saying that we should all show sympathy for the people that earned their UEs, because maybe they don't care themselves. But when you don't care about something because it doesn't affect YOU, it's like losing your humanity really, even if it's over a game like maplestory.

OT: I think this is a good idea to eliminate the majority of hacked UEs [/quote]

i have absolutely no part of this
but i read this and it annoyed me x-x
i have an UA, and i have a 120 cygnus, you may check if you'd like
but i honestly have no care about this
in fact, i had fun leveling a dawn warrior before soul driver was patched
but how are YOU going to feel sorry for ME (and others) when i don't even care?
i don't want your pity
i even feel sorry for the people that exploited their UA
because they'll never know the once overpowered soul driver and they'll never have the intense cygnus boss battle at 120 that i so much enjoyed
quit trying to make excuses for reasons to ban all the exploiters
if there's a reason that's not some poor excuse for these people to be banned, it is because they broke the rules, plain and simple
not because we feel bad for people that "worked real hard" for their UA

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
biocarlosv

@HappyCamper: meh, unless they used same ign on their new chars, i guess nexon should know what kind of char was

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
xlGunShotlx

Assuming there is no possible way to get royal right now, They'll just ban every newly created UE with royal hair/face, and let the regular face/hair ones go. They always let someone go

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
skullowls

[quote=HUGSforFAME]I honestly cannot believe it when people say it doesn't affect them personally. Sure, it may not DIRECTLY affect you, but think of all the others it does affect. For one, many people worked hard to earn their UE. I, myself, have never made a UE, but I know people spend days or weeks, maybe even months, to get their CK to 120, and then many more additional hours to collect their peridots. Have some empathy. When people say they don't care, what DO you care about? Do you only care about yourself. And I'm not saying that we should all show sympathy for the people that earned their UEs, because maybe they don't care themselves. But when you don't care about something because it doesn't affect YOU, it's like losing your humanity really, even if it's over a game like maplestory.

OT: I think this is a good idea to eliminate the majority of hacked UEs [/quote]

Funny how common sense goes a long way yet you still don't have any.

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
biocarlosv

checking their succesor medal names aint enought?

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
HUGSforFAME

I honestly cannot believe it when people say it doesn't affect them personally. Sure, it may not DIRECTLY affect you, but think of all the others it does affect. For one, many people worked hard to earn their UE. I, myself, have never made a UE, but I know people spend days or weeks, maybe even months, to get their CK to 120, and then many more additional hours to collect their peridots. Have some empathy. When people say they don't care, what DO you care about? Do you only care about yourself. And I'm not saying that we should all show sympathy for the people that earned their UEs, because maybe they don't care themselves. But when you don't care about something because it doesn't affect YOU, it's like losing your humanity really, even if it's over a game like maplestory.

OT: I think this is a good idea to eliminate the majority of hacked UEs

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
vsnxmee

[quote=ABurntCrisp]What about the people who made legit ones after the 26th, royaled their eyes and hair, and spent nx on it?[/quote]

Honey, he already pointed this out. Read the thread again. ^^;

Reply October 31, 2011 - edited
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