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[quote=SkylarCarte]idk if turret is considered as summoning (it doesnt trigger DR though)[/quote]

Unfortunately it does trigger DR so it's not like a summon in that regard

They still are top 3. Now you'll be sitting on 2 stacks mostly.

[quote=SkylarCarte]idk if turret is considered as summoning (it doesnt trigger DR though), but summoned creatures never trigger AFA[/quote]

Turret is not considered a summon as far as I know, and afa does proc when turret is up.

[quote=Elufu]@Ginseng: As in WH capping > BM capping?

I can only think of 3 reasonings. One is that I'm not taking into account something in my calculation thats actually happening in game, which is quite possible since I don't main either classes. Another branching from my first point is that BM's turret AFA trigger is not occuring as I suspect it is (or glitching). And.. the only other reason I can think of is that the BM is not actually capping on its AFA.[/quote]

idk if turret is considered as summoning (it doesnt trigger DR though), but summoned creatures never trigger AFA

@Ginseng: As in WH capping > BM capping?

I can only think of 3 reasonings. One is that I'm not taking into account something in my calculation thats actually happening in game, which is quite possible since I don't main either classes. Another branching from my first point is that BM's turret AFA trigger is not occuring as I suspect it is (or glitching). And.. the only other reason I can think of is that the BM is not actually capping on its AFA.

[quote=Elufu]I'm going to withhold an in-depth analysis but purely looking at the another bite and %ID reduction change, please see numbers below. Further detail can be found: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2782310

[b]Average maintainable another bite stacks:[/b] 2.65 -> 1.93 (The attack routine is very conservative, so in game if you are diligent with your jaguar skills and timing you might pull off a better number)
[b]Raw Damage%/s:[/b] 26.7k%/s -> 24.5k%/s
[b]Against Empress[/b] 4.7k%/s -> 4k%/s

Personally the number changes isn't as bad as what initial impressions are. Just build/fund what you have always been doing and you won't feel alot UNLESS you are capped.

[b]Hits/s[/b] 31.04 hits/s with HAU -> 28.04hits/s

I'm assuming every hit counts for the high end players.. so yeah 3/s difference might be quite significant.[/quote]

Do you happen to know why there's such a big discrepancy between BM/WH clear times (let's say hellux/dorothy) when capping? Considering BM's have a little over 10 hits/sec over WH's.

I'm going to withhold an in-depth analysis but purely looking at the another bite and %ID reduction change, please see numbers below. Further detail can be found: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2782310

[b]Average maintainable another bite stacks:[/b] 2.65 -> 1.93 (The attack routine is very conservative, so in game if you are diligent with your jaguar skills and timing you might pull off a better number)
[b]Raw Damage%/s:[/b] 26.7k%/s -> 24.5k%/s
[b]Against Empress[/b] 4.7k%/s -> 4k%/s

Personally the number changes isn't as bad as what initial impressions are. Just build/fund what you have always been doing and you won't feel alot UNLESS you are capped.

[b]Hits/s[/b] 32.04 hits/s with HAU -> 29.04hits/s

I'm assuming every hit counts for the high end players.. so yeah 3/s difference might be quite significant.

[quote=Misusing]I'm waiting for Max to translate and give more accurate information on this. I think most of us saw this coming No reals complaints[/quote]

That's true, I'm just waiting on the numbers now to see how much of a nerf we get o.o

I'm waiting for Max to translate and give more accurate information on this. I think most of us saw this coming No reals complaints

Switch to Marksman...lolz