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I have always been a thief-class person and xenon satisfies everything for me. It got great mobility and attack skills, the buffs arent that much of a hassle though. Honestly, I don't remember what happened but I got to level 100 pretty fast as like, I was strong enough to kill more things than I did on my mages. Then the class got more fun after 100 even though I didn't have the godly damage or whatever cuhs I don't do hardcore trading. Most of my weapons and equips came from events and I used event coins to buy scrolls, etc.

[quote=Xeroz]OTL is the "new way" of bowwing down[/quote]

Oh cool lol. Guess I gotta catch up with the new lingo

[quote=mr159]Ya I agree though besides the fact that I am at a point where funding is expensive, I have alot of fun on my xenon[/quote]

OTL is the "new way" of bowwing down

[quote=MrrSnuggles]Well I don'y really play classes just because they are "OP" at the time or play classes only for damage. I don't really have fun when I do that.
But alot of people are saying they are having a blast playing a xenon so thats a good sign, the damage will come in time.[/quote]

Ya I agree though besides the fact that I am at a point where funding is expensive, I have alot of fun on my xenon

[quote=Xeroz]@Axnslicer: When did I say it was impossible? I'm just saying that I have not seen any footage up to this point.

@mr159, OTL

Thank you kind sir! Now I'm gonna go shove this video in some haters faces. <3[/quote]

You should check for issues with your short term memory then.

[quote=Xeroz]However, other bosses like Cra, Hellux, hard Magnus etc. with enormous hp and what seems like never enough time, is where we fail. Xenon's don't have the dps to take on bosses like that (I'm talking solo). [/quote]

[quote=Xeroz]@Axnslicer: When did I say it was impossible? I'm just saying that I have not seen any footage up to this point.

@mr159, OTL

Thank you kind sir! Now I'm gonna go shove this video in some haters faces. <3[/quote]

Over the line? One true love? Out to lunch? Sorry I goggled it and I'm not sure lol

[quote=mr159]Search unific on youtube for a queen and vb solo. And aatrox for cvellum. I don't have that control so I can't solo cvellum yet, but personally....

Xenons are pretty expensive to fund depending on how godly you're trying to be. I was able to start capping with snipe with some small amount of funding. But when I started to take steps to cap with blade dance it became much harder. Then the step after that was capping with blade dance on bosses with pdr. So far after all the funds I've spent on my xenon im capping 95% of the time on hellux. My final goal will be to cap with blade dance on cvellum, however that seems like it may cost 2-3m nx from where I'm at now, which.... doesn't seem worth it

Nonetheless unless you're going to try to cap with blade dance the class is not overly pricey to play[/quote]

Well I don'y really play classes just because they are "OP" at the time or play classes only for damage. I don't really have fun when I do that.
But alot of people are saying they are having a blast playing a xenon so thats a good sign, the damage will come in time.

@Axnslicer: When did I say it was impossible? I'm just saying that I have not seen any footage up to this point.

@mr159, OTL

Thank you kind sir! Now I'm gonna go shove this video in some haters faces. <3

[quote=Xeroz]I'm talking about a pure solo. No support, no shades for binding. No "party of 6" Xenons for unlimited binding. Nothing. Just one xenon, alone, with whatever hard/hell/chaos mode boss.[/quote]

Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it's impossible.

Xenon Hard Magnus solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iUVabk6VyA

[quote=mr159]Search unific on youtube for a queen and vb solo. And aatrox for cvellum. I don't have that control so I can't solo cvellum yet, but personally....

Xenons are pretty expensive to fund depending on how godly you're trying to be. I was able to start capping with snipe with some small amount of funding. But when I started to take steps to cap with blade dance it became much harder. Then the step after that was capping with blade dance on bosses with pdr. So far after all the funds I've spent on my xenon im capping 95% of the time on hellux. My final goal will be to cap with blade dance on cvellum, however that seems like it may cost 2-3m nx from where I'm at now, which.... doesn't seem worth it

Nonetheless unless you're going to try to cap with blade dance the class is not overly pricey to play[/quote]

cap with beam dance....once can only dream

[quote=Xeroz]The only thing that is broken, is my eyes. I read it wrong. You're right and I'm wrong about the stat %. I had it reversed.

LF > GMS Cra solo plz[/quote]

Search unific on youtube for a queen and vb solo. And aatrox for cvellum. I don't have that control so I can't solo cvellum yet, but personally....

Xenons are pretty expensive to fund depending on how godly you're trying to be. I was able to start capping with snipe with some small amount of funding. But when I started to take steps to cap with blade dance it became much harder. Then the step after that was capping with blade dance on bosses with pdr. So far after all the funds I've spent on my xenon im capping 95% of the time on hellux. My final goal will be to cap with blade dance on cvellum, however that seems like it may cost 2-3m nx from where I'm at now, which.... doesn't seem worth it

Nonetheless unless you're going to try to cap with blade dance the class is not overly pricey to play

[quote=dragonglord]this. i wish to know if you've broken the system[/quote]

The only thing that is broken, is my eyes. I read it wrong. You're right and I'm wrong about the stat %. I had it reversed.

LF > GMS Cra solo plz

The only con of having a Xenon is that it's sort of hard to fund. But they are very fun and pretty powerful. It's also fun that you can equip both thief and pirate equips.

[quote=LeRebellion]Can you post a picture of your 12% all stat superior ring? I'm pretty sure 9% is the max you can get on legendary for all stats unless you're talking about SW[/quote]

this. i wish to know if you've broken the system

[quote=dragonglord][quote=Xeroz]LOL, I hope you're joking about that "no 12% all stat" because I have a superior ring with 12% all, 9% all 9% int.

my bad. ive just never seen a 12% all stat line. thats a mighty fine potential you got there mate[/quote]

Can you post a picture of your 12% all stat superior ring? I'm pretty sure 9% is the max you can get on legendary for all stats unless you're talking about SW

It's pretty easy to train as Xenon imo, I'm level 188 and I can probably get 1 level a day if I wanted to.
I don't really boss too much but when I do, it's not bad. Probably only concern would be HP but that could be resolved with set effects giving %HP and maybe a Decent Hyper Body skill (potential or nebulite).
I'd recommend it if you're the kind of person who is willing to slowly fund yourself to get a stronger range. Xenons can be easy to fund to a certain degree but going to that degree requires some, if not a lot, of effort for someone who doesn't already have the money. I also recommend you to have a black smith profession so you can save yourself the NX with Cubes.

[quote=Xeroz]LOL, I hope you're joking about that "no 12% all stat" because I have a superior ring with 12% all, 9% all 9% int.

my bad. ive just never seen a 12% all stat line. thats a mighty fine potential you got there mate

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko_21Y32iBs]Xenon can't solo cra?[/url]

I'm talking about a pure solo. No support, no shades for binding. No "party of 6" Xenons for unlimited binding. Nothing. Just one xenon, alone, with whatever hard/hell/chaos mode boss.

We can do cra, hellux, and hard magnus solo... unless you consider bringing a bind to hard magnus not a solo.

LOL, I hope you're joking about that "no 12% all stat" because I have a superior ring with 12% all, 9% all 9% int.

Back on topic, Xenons are pretty fun, pretty easy to play and do decently high damage with not too much funding. But if your gonna main it, you may want to reconsider. Xenons are an extremely hard class to boss with, especially now since we got nerfed. Snipe literally takes like 2 millennias to cast and OOP parts will get you killed in time critical areas. i.e Magnus. Not to mention the obscene amounts of buffs we have, just adds to wasted time. For some bosses, we can just run over them, like Chaos Zak Chaos HT and other stationary bosses. However, other bosses like Cra, Hellux, hard Magnus etc. with enormous hp and what seems like never enough time, is where we fail. Xenon's don't have the dps to take on bosses like that (I'm talking solo).

Hybrid heart is nice, but it really isn't anything special either. It's not really any different from any other emblem. One more piece you may want to consider. Our clone skill hits a max cap of 35m. So don't expect to see 10 lines of 50m from snipe. We also don't have a level 3 link skill either. Nexon decided that having a 15% all stat link skill that would stack with a 15% all stat maple warrior would make us extremely overpowered. Since it benefits our class 3x more than any other.

Xenon will always be the most fun job to me, it has great mobility and a range of useful attacks to use at 4th job. Also Xenons emblem (hybrid heart) is tradeable and easy to get (npc in commerci sells them) when compared with most other jobs and it cannot be scrolled with weapon attack scrolls because it is not an android heart. They are extremely easy to fund despite the fact %all stats is a hard pot to get, almost every equip adds more to xenon than most jobs just through their base stats. For example a normal 5 star tyrant has around 165+all stats for a normal job that would equal around 16.5% (165 to main stat) and add a tiny bit for their secondary stat, for xenon it's a whopping 49.5% (165x3 to main stat). This same example applies to gollux equips, ra equips, prime scrolls, and most other equips in the game.

@dragonglord: right hybrid heart w/e things that you can scroll with beautiful weapon attack scrolls.

i re-read the funding posts on southperry and found that actually 1% all-stat is the same as a 1% main-stat for another class, which reduces cost effectiveness of your funds. ( my reason for not bandwagoning xenon when it was released, but my memory was blurry haha mb)

@OT: yeh man 4th job xenon is a blast to play.

[quote=tianbozpear]

For funding:
- xenons can get a lot of weapon attack from their whipblade + 2x android heart equipment, but hearts are hilariously expensive
- xenons are hard to fund because of their 3 stat scaling (making the most effective potential line %all-stat) , but also because their AP distribution reduces the effectiveness of %stats (even %all stat). Essentially,1% all-stat for a xenon gives less damage than 1% main-stat for another class.
- they scale super hard off of enhanced Tyrants[/quote]

first, no xenon would want 2 android hearts because the potential from hybrid heart is infinitely better
second, 1%all does not give less effect than 1% main for other classes. Dojo gloves give %all stat right? I get a 75k range boost while another class with very similar fundings gets a 35-45k range boost. %all is actually very effective and the 3 main stat thing doesnt make you benefit less.
Why do you think there is no 12%all stat line on potentials? cuz thatd be broken (not saying that xenon is the cause for that)
correct me if im wrong plz

[quote=tianbozpear]I rushed a mule to 120 for the link skill, but I enjoyed it so much that i decided to provide some funds for it. here are some of my experiences with it (as well as some other things to consider)

For training:
-2nd job xenon lacks decent vertical mobility (you will struggle at drakes until you can stop missing, which by then the exp is crap anyway)
-3rd job xenon will be the most tedious class you ever experience (and i've gone through all the link skills...)
-4th job is such a blessing and has the 3 skills (7 considering mode changes) that make xenons really fun to play past lv 100
for comparison, lv 1-50 took 1.5 hrs, lv 50-60 took 1 hr, lv 60-75 took 1 hr, 75-100 took 1.5 hr, 100-120 took 1 hr.

For funding:
- xenons can get a lot of weapon attack from their whipblade + 2x android heart equipment, but hearts are hilariously expensive
- xenons are hard to fund because of their 3 stat scaling (making the most effective potential line %all-stat) , but also because their AP distribution reduces the effectiveness of %stats (even %all stat). Essentially,1% all-stat for a xenon gives less damage than 1% main-stat for another class.
- they scale super hard off of enhanced Tyrants[/quote]

Well i only got a tyrant cape and i scrolled it with all stat scrolls during the 9th anniversary event. i wouldnt mind funding it if they are fun toplay though.

I rushed a mule to 120 for the link skill, but I enjoyed it so much that i decided to provide some funds for it. here are some of my experiences with it (as well as some other things to consider)

For training:
-2nd job xenon lacks decent vertical mobility (you will struggle at drakes until you can stop missing, which by then the exp is crap anyway)
-3rd job xenon will be the most tedious class you ever experience (and i've gone through all the link skills...)
-4th job is such a blessing and has the 3 skills (7 considering mode changes) that make xenons really fun to play past lv 100
for comparison, lv 1-50 took 1.5 hrs, lv 50-60 took 1 hr, lv 60-75 took 1 hr, 75-100 took 1.5 hr, 100-120 took 1 hr.

For funding:
- xenons can get a lot of weapon attack from their whipblade + 2x android heart equipment, but hearts are hilariously expensive
- xenons are hard to fund because of their 3 stat scaling (making the most effective potential line %all-stat) , but also because their AP distribution reduces the effectiveness of %stats (even %all stat). Essentially,1% all-stat for a xenon gives less damage than 1% main-stat for another class.
- they scale super hard off of enhanced Tyrants

[quote=MrSinDeath19]My Xenon is my second main and I really enjoy it. It's got a different feel to it than most classes, and it does have a variety of different end-game attacks depending on the situation, which is great.

All stat's IMO just gives you more oppertunity to buy equips. I bought a Gollux belt with 9% luk and 6% str. Most classes that's useless but it helps xenon. As you get deeper into late-game and maximizing your range this calculation get's a bit more complicated, but in general it's not a bad thing[/quote]

I always like the concept of xenon. and I agree with you since having multiple stats as the main stat it opens up more opportunity for items.

It's pretty fun, easy to fund until around 500k range. Bossing is aite, better classes out there. Lots of buffs and energy system is annoying af

My Xenon is my second main and I really enjoy it. It's got a different feel to it than most classes, and it does have a variety of different end-game attacks depending on the situation, which is great.

All stat's IMO just gives you more oppertunity to buy equips. I bought a Gollux belt with 9% luk and 6% str. Most classes that's useless but it helps xenon. As you get deeper into late-game and maximizing your range this calculation get's a bit more complicated, but in general it's not a bad thing