Is crafting worth it to make mesos?
I really wanna make mesos to fund my characters and I figured I could craft earrings/belts with good potential and sell them. The only issue is that I'm having bad luck with it so far. Yes, it's only been 2 days, but I only started with 40m, and I've spent almost 1m and I'm very stingy with money. I haven't made a single meso back yet. My accessory crafting level I believe is 6 or 7 at the moment and it's growing rapidly. When I first started, I crafted pansy earrings because they were easiest, only to find I would just get crappy 2 lined rare ones on occasion. I started to make half earrings, however they seem to be so expensive to make. I've only made 3 so far, only one had potential. It's 3 lines but the stats aren't even worth mentioning. Is all of this investing and failure really worth it? I don't want to invest more money into this if I won't make a profit. I know half earrings are probably the most popular to make, but who knows when I'll get a decent one? I just want to know if this is worth my time and mesos.
Also, if somebody could give me a general idea of how much different potential earrings go for, that would be great. Going through FM I usually only find ones that are super expensive and something like 12% of a stat, and I doubt I'll get one like that any time soon. What about like 3%, 6%, or 9%? Any help is appreciated. I've never been too good at keeping track of the economy or making mesos in general.
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[quote=Pilgramage]I've made more money off smithing than off accessory crafting. 20m goes into a Reverse weapon, 40, 50, 60m comes out.[/quote]
I was considering smithing as well because my I/L is a blacksmith, but I'm not really looking to invest 20m at the moment, but in the future it is a major possibility.
I only cubed 3l uniques that were bad stats***
@Nintendo4eva: If we are in the same server, I can donate some materials to help you get started, oh well
@Rann: I don't know how many I crafted today, but I ended up with zero. I had 2 crappy potential ones, fused them, got crappier potential, extracted it. Current profits are negative, but it's only been 2 days. I'm hoping just to get to around 100m-ish so I can start other methods of making mesos.
@Nintendo4eva: Well, I crafted about 35 earrings today and I ended up with one...so, it depends
Cubing isnt a good way to make money
I think cubing is just good if you want to be funded.
@Rann: I fuse together the earrings that have really crappy stats (like 10 wep def or something dumb like that) and I never seem to get good results, so I'm assuming cubing would bring me the same luck. I'm not too much of a risk taker when it comes to this stuff. I wouldn't wanna end up wasting my NX. I only do surveys for NX to get something really useful, such as my store permit.
@Nintendo4eva: Well, if you can do surveys to get NX, by all means, DO IT. I still wouldn't really recommend cubing the earrings even if you can afford to though. I tried cubing before and let's just say, it didn't go so well. In a way, cubing is just like fusing...so, whatever floats your boat I guess
[quote=Rann]I advise you not to cube the earrings even if you have extra nx to throw around. I don't think the NX:mesos rate and the outcome rate is worth it. Sure, the other guy ended up with a few 12% earrings with 5 cubes, but what are the chances? With cubes, you might end up with something better, but what are the chances? If you don't want to risk everything, you might be better off doing what you are doing now. The profit is small and it is slower, but it's the safest way [/quote]
So basically don't waste my time doing surveys to get NX? And I know the profit may be small, but I've never really done anything like this before. I just got lucky selling maple leaves for 10k during events and a guy gave me a nice chunk of change because I let him share a jesters map with me a while back. I just hope I get that lucky with this. Any profit is good profit for me. Once I hit a decent amount I'll probably start merching.
just keep trying. i got my 6% dex half earrings after like... 15 tries or so? dont give up. it's the key to success o.o lol
[quote=Nintendo4eva]Wow, I wasn't expecting this kind of response. Thanks everyone! Right now I just don't wanna dip below 30m investing into this, however if I have to it isn't a huge deal. I don't have any NX currently which I guess is an issue because then I can't cube. So is it really rare to get a really nice earring (12%) or belt (8%) just from crafting? I really do want to invest in this especially because I have a store permit, so selling them shouldn't be much of an issue.
Edit: Also, my main is an alchemist, my mercedes is the accessory crafter, so extracting isn't an issue.[/quote]
I advise you not to cube the earrings even if you have extra nx to throw around. I don't think the NX:mesos rate and the outcome rate is worth it. Sure, the other guy ended up with a few 12% earrings with 5 cubes, but what are the chances? With cubes, you might end up with something better, but what are the chances? If you don't want to risk everything, you might be better off doing what you are doing now. The profit is small and it is slower, but it's the safest way
Wow, I wasn't expecting this kind of response. Thanks everyone! Right now I just don't wanna dip below 30m investing into this, however if I have to it isn't a huge deal. I don't have any NX currently which I guess is an issue because then I can't cube. So is it really rare to get a really nice earring (12%) or belt (8%) just from crafting? I really do want to invest in this especially because I have a store permit, so selling them shouldn't be much of an issue.
Edit: Also, my main is an alchemist, my mercedes is the accessory crafter, so extracting isn't an issue.
I usually craft Half Earrings; they are the easiest 3rd tier earrings.
Things you need: 2 accessory crafting mules, 1 alchemist mule, and another Mining mule; having them at max level (10) would help a lot
1. buy 300 bronze ores and 100 adamantium ores, total cost 4m; craft them on your Mining mule and you should end up with around 80-90 bronze plates and 25-30 adamantium plates (these numbers will vary)
2. craft the level 70 ring (that requires 1 adamantium plate) on accessory crafting mule A; transfer to and extract for intermediate crystals on your Alchemist mule
3. transfer the intermediate crystals and bronze plates to accessory crafting mule B and craft the earrings
4. keep the good %potentials and fuse the ones with crappy potentials or no potentials
Each time I craft 40 earrings, I spent about 5-6m(including all the materials). Sometimes you will make money and sometimes you don't. It really depends on your luck because the potentials are totally random. On the side note, 3%s don't sell very well, but if I have something like 3%LUK +8DEX, I can still sell it for 3m. I know the profit is little and it comes really slowly, but keep investing on it, you will eventually end up with 6%s and 9%s. Anyways, good luck
Edit. The reason why I have 2 accessory crafting mule and another Mining mule is because of the fatigue thing, I don't really want to spend extra mesos on buying the drink that recovers fatigue level. Having mules are free anyways, and you can assign different "jobs" to each.
edit 2. Some people would fuse the earrings without potentials and some actually extract them instead; I prefer fusing them because when you extract them, the chance of ending up with advanced item crystal is pretty often (I tried this before). This is really your choice though.
edit 3. If you are really REALLY low on mesos, you can always mine the ores, but this would take a LOT of time (and not to mention how boring it is). You can also farm lvl 50-90 equips and extract them for intermediate item crystals.
I will think of more tips as I refresh my memories I used to try to squeeze every possible way of getting everything without using mesos
... you will not get much profit unless you maximize your efforts. Do this by:
1)Make a mule account that is an alchemist.
2)Level both your accessory crafting and alchemy levels to 10 (this can be done quickly if you craft rings for accessory and pills/other sht for alchemist)
3)Spend at LEAST 5m into this thing. You WILL get a return on your investments.
Tips that I have would be:
-Craft you own monster crystals by making rings (only one plate). You can get 1-3 per rings.
-Get another computer for the mule.
-Leveling your crafting and putting money into the materials might seem like it costs a lot initially, but you will profit in the end... if you do not profit, you're doing it wrong.
-With50m (and around 5 cubes), I made 4 12% earrings, 3 9% earrings, and a ton (probably 30+) of 6%'s... a lot more than what I put in.
-You can also look into belt crafting. In my opinion, belt craft is just (if not more) profitable because the 8% belts are worth a lot more than 12% earrings.
you're certainly going to have to be prepared to invest more than 1mil and craft more than a hundred or so earrings.
12% earrings=300-400m
And craft half earrings. Get like 25 intermediate crystals, craft half earrings, extract unpotted/bad pot ones. When u extract it gives u 2~4 crystals. It costs 2 to make. Its an unending cycle. Pansy earrings are 2nd tier, half earrings are 3rd.
-3% = 2m, 6% = 10-15m, 9% = 50-100m.
It'd probably be better if you just sold item crystals, not as quick profit, but you won't lose any mesos, whereas with crafting there's a chance you won't get anything good.
3% - 500k-2m
6% - 10m-20m
9% - 40m-90m
12% - 100m+