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@0dexkilla: Yes, but only when we're charged now. The KMS patch actually came out and some of the things we got were changed. It's a bit more restricting I suppose, though not too big of a deal. I believe we're still more powerful.

Fist Enrage: damage boost when fully charged has been removed, now Fist Enrage deals 315% damage 10 times when you are fully charged

Dragon Strike: damage has been decreased from 770% to 300%, number of hits has been increased from 2 to 12, cast delay has been decreased, 10 second cooldown has been added, in addition to existing effects, enemies hit will receive a debuff that increases your final damage by 10% and this skill can now only be used when you are fully charged

This is a lower boost than the KMSt patch, but it's still pretty decent. I believe our charged Octopunch damage was an additional 20%, so 315% x 10 isn't so bad. Dragon Strike can only be used when you're fully charged, and the damage boost it gives us is 10% now instead of 15%. Kind of a bummer, but them's the breaks.

So does octopunch do 13 lines of damage total now? 10 coming from the actual skill, 1 from the hyper skill that adds a line and 2 from the Nautilus cool down effect. Is this true?

@powerbomb If we had a higher critical rate then we could shuffle over some skills that grant us some critical rate/damage into Stun Mastery, because it would make more sense, and then replace them with more consistent skills. It would also open the way for the 4 on our Dice to be changed, because we could maintain a much higher critical rate.

There's a lot of options, frankly, but very few can even be considered because of the way Nexon updates things. There are few skills I'd say are nearly obsolete in every way, and Stun Mastery is one of the most useless skills; Nexon just hasn't updated it for some reason, despite a lot of easy fixes floating around.

@tricks122: I like the idea of having its effects apply to bosses, though I'd suggest giving a different effect since Buccs tend to have rather high crit on bosses anyway. Since Dragon Strike effectively deals with the debuff thing, maybe we could get a bind or something.

That's kind of a lazy solution, but the classes are all rather homogeneous nowadays anyway.

@powerbomb From what I recall, there have been suggested changes to moving its effects to Precision Strikes and making a new skill out of it, turning it into a debuff skill, making its effects apply to bosses(By making them able to be stunned, but immune to the effects of it, which was my preferred way), etc... but I haven't heard of anything concrete, despite the skill being pretty much useless to anyone who's beyond a completely new player(And even then... it's still pretty useless).

Plenty of suggestions have been tossed around, but so far I don't see anything in the works with the Korean revamps.

@tricks122: Did you guys ever propose any changes to Stun Mastery? That skill is still stuck as it is for whatever reason. I know I shouldn't be surprised but seriously...

@4kyosuke4 Eh, if they'd been sniping the chats about revamps at all they'd have changed us years ago. There's been no shortage of complaints, so I'd be surprised if they bothered to do so. Plus, eventually they have to change us for the better; with how inept Nexon's balancing team is at making classes balanced, it's only a matter of time until they screwed up in the opposite direction for us.

I mean, if they were sniping the chat, I'd think that a GOOD idea like "Let's make the damage cap based on each skill or each class rather than a single number that screws over a lot of classes!" would get picked. It's clear that Nexon isn't good at sniping ideas if this is what they chose to snipe.

@tricks122 Yeah I saw the dragon strike change and wondered if they sniped the bucc chats. Lol

Well, I guess it was bound to happen eventually; even a bunch of monkeys typing on computers could eventually perfectly compose a work of Shakespeare, given enough time.

In this case, it happened far before my expectations, isn't as grandiose and might not even be enough depending on what other changes happen... but it's a start.

@ranger86 No, the update we're talking about happened in KMS not long ago. We still have a long time before it hits GMS.

so is this part of the reboot

octopunch might still be suitable since they're pirates and octopunch is a play on octopus i guess, and they do have that octopus flash jump.... it just won't make as much sense now since it's not 8 hits

@belzier: I can't actually look at those links, they don't work for me. Did you guys at least try to do something for Stun Mastery (which is still useless, lol)?

@fradddd: I think Bucc Blast does less damage now even with +1 strike and Energy Charge but it doesn't have a 10 second cooldown. I'm not sure if there's a time limit on how long Dragon Strike's debuff lasts, though. Max didn't have anything up on his blog about a time limit.

Well how much damage will Bucc Blast do by the time we get that update? Does this Dragon Strike do more?

@4kyosuke4: That's exactly the reason why I want a new animation! When pirates first came out, dragon strike looked so badass, but every revamp nexon keeps making it faster to the point that it's like we forget it's a dragon. it is long overdue for a new animation. What the heck mm's dragon pulse got a new animation from RED. >_>

@mryumyum as much as I love the old look of it, because of it's attack speed at the moment, we can barely see it. So I'd like to see a change in animation for Dragon Strike as well =)

Can we a new animation for dragon strike please.

On the right path, though there are other reorganizations and things that could be implemented.

@4kyosuke4 from the MLC is working on a list of changes to present to Nexon. See suggestions made by xaznninja and Kyo:

https:/cs.google.comcument/d/1Jy8-s_6WIZSIAnNSZjeilTEGPJRwDDM9rE5E7fc51Fg/edit

https:/cs.google.comcument/d/1Jid6PIY4unCmj9GJlrsLrQG2YGeiAl8mCjEB4iKJNb8/edit

One suggestion was to remove Static Thumper, move Dragon Strike to 3rd job, and also allow all skills to apply a debuff to monsters and bosses.

all around decent buff
i like the new dragon strike idea. i felt that it was replaced by bucc blast but not it has a use.