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@Night0fSorrow
The reverse comes from his Orange AoE. If you can get up to the second level and out of range of the attack, you wont ever experience the key reversal. If that hits, its pretty much a 1HKO if the hands show up. Just get to the second level ASAP and out of range, and you should find you have a higher success rate. Best of luck!

I must be the worst WA out there... Because I hit ~3.3m lines with song and still sometimes die on normal gollux... never bothered to try hard cuz I feel certain that I can't do it lol... The 2nd part of the fight pissed me off with the inverted keys so jumping up is impossible then I die like 95% of the time lol... it's annoying as hell, but that's the only problem I really have for normal mode. The inverted keys thingy... lol

[quote=Gummybearwizard][/quote]
yea, when the hand came up i used vertican jump and manged to dodge it pretty consistently.

[quote=Redhawks401]me and my and a few guildmates did hard gollux yesterday and i did it and it worked for me, maybe your timing was off or something. I also tried it on both normal and easy mode and it also worked perfectly.[/quote]

You mean a hand did come up for you?
What I found was if I was already half way into the map or so and jumped up the hand would find me regardless. However, if I left map, came back and jumped up as soon as possible the hand wouldn't follow. I sometimes mess up the vertical jump and mess this timing up haha.

[quote=ProHealer]I think he was referring to @Gummybearwizard 's post about the hand not trying to grab if you jump up opposed to using the teleport portal up[/quote]
huh? so was i, if i miss read it then my bad

[quote=Redhawks401]me and my and a few guildmates did hard gollux yesterday and i did it and it worked for me, maybe your timing was off or something. I also tried it on both normal and easy mode and it also worked perfectly.[/quote]

I think he was referring to @Gummybearwizard 's post about the hand not trying to grab if you jump up opposed to using the teleport portal up

[quote=Recurved]Tried the jump up and didn't get a hand. But that's only on 1 run. Ill test more later.[/quote]
me and my and a few guildmates did hard gollux yesterday and i did it and it worked for me, maybe your timing was off or something. I also tried it on both normal and easy mode and it also worked perfectly.

Tried the jump up and didn't get a hand. But that's only on 1 run. Ill test more later.

@Gummybearwizard I also jump up and can't remember if I've ever actually seen the hand

@Recurved: I'm just curious lol. It's always annoying to me trying not to die and if someone's on the lower end of range to do this attacking uniteruppted would be a big help.

@Gummybearwizard: I could test it, but I have no issues with jump dodging the hand when it comes up. I'll give this a try though and see if not taking the portal somehow causes a logic check to not bring the hand up.

[quote=Recurved]I don't know how much range it would take minimum, but I can speak from experience that you can kill him relatively easily if you can hit ~3m lines with song.

I recommend leaving your flower on the ground level towards the right side of his head to slow down the far side mobs. Right before you kill jaw, pop Hyper and TaC. Echo would help here as well. Take the teleport to the second level and walk to the leftmost part of the eyes platform. This will keep you out of range for his orange/blue AOE skills.
If your screen resolution is large enough, you can see the "MISS" pop up on the bottom right of your screen. This will give you an indicator of when you should be using your Monsoon skill. Use the totem skill later for a second wave of free clearing, but only on the left half of the map.

If you see his hand coming up to grab you, I recommend you use your vertical jump to avoid the hand for 2 reasons.
- Don't have to time a sideways jump or drop down, which can still lead to getting hit by the hand hitbox
- You land back in place to continue, rather than having to reposition

If you die while fighting eyes, wait until you see a new summon wave for the minions appear and spawn in. This gives you best chance to kill off mobs and hopefully prevents extra marks from being applied to your head. You now have to make the decision of rebuffing, or trying to finish off the eyes w/ just sylph aid active. Buffing is a fragile time and I have died countless times to gollux while using macro'd buffs.

Once you manage to finish off eyes, you're basically done with the run. Jump down and kill off the mobs and jump back up and just go to town.[/quote]
Maybe it's just me, but on the runs I use the portal to get to the platform the hand will follow me and kill me pretty quickly. On the runs I jump up myself (and land on the left side , almost exactly where I need to stand) the hand never comes and I finish the eyes with no issues. Maybe test this yourself your next run?

I don't know how much range it would take minimum, but I can speak from experience that you can kill him relatively easily if you can hit ~3m lines with song.

I recommend leaving your flower on the ground level towards the right side of his head to slow down the far side mobs. Right before you kill jaw, pop Hyper and TaC. Echo would help here as well. Take the teleport to the second level and walk to the leftmost part of the eyes platform. This will keep you out of range for his orange/blue AOE skills.
If your screen resolution is large enough, you can see the "MISS" pop up on the bottom right of your screen. This will give you an indicator of when you should be using your Monsoon skill. Use the totem skill later for a second wave of free clearing, but only on the left half of the map.

If you see his hand coming up to grab you, I recommend you use your vertical jump to avoid the hand for 2 reasons.
- Don't have to time a sideways jump or drop down, which can still lead to getting hit by the hand hitbox
- You land back in place to continue, rather than having to reposition

If you die while fighting eyes, wait until you see a new summon wave for the minions appear and spawn in. This gives you best chance to kill off mobs and hopefully prevents extra marks from being applied to your head. You now have to make the decision of rebuffing, or trying to finish off the eyes w/ just sylph aid active. Buffing is a fragile time and I have died countless times to gollux while using macro'd buffs.

Once you manage to finish off eyes, you're basically done with the run. Jump down and kill off the mobs and jump back up and just go to town.

@Redhawks401: The eyes shouldn't be one hit ko-ing you since sky song should allow you to stand at the very edge. Having to go down is an issue for me too. I use the hyper skill and the sengoku totem skill to help but it really only gets easy if you can dps the rate of mobs giving you counters.

[quote=Gummybearwizard]Wind archer has it pretty easy soloing hard gollux (emerald flower keeps you completely safe while you kill the jaw and sky song lets you avoid his cry like attack while you kill the eyes) but I'd still say about 300-400k 100% boss [b]atleast[/b]. It depends on your control too. Mine is pretty bad and I end up killing myself a lot by accident at the eyes.[/quote]
i used to have the same issues with normal gollux, but emerald flower makes that fight a dps check ( which is why im asking for the range for hard, normal is such a push over even at my range XD) the challenge for me actually comes AFTER i kill the jaw, since the eyes are always OHKO and every few secs i have to come down to kill the adds before the curse kills me, same thing for the last part of the fight, i actually have to get close to his range to hit the stone thing which puts me in his attack range.

honeslty most of my deaths in this fight come from poorly timing when i go down to kill the adds during the last 2 parts of the fight -.-*
oh thank you telling me what my range should be for hard mode.

Wind archer has it pretty easy soloing hard gollux (emerald flower keeps you completely safe while you kill the jaw and sky song lets you avoid his cry like attack while you kill the eyes) but I'd still say about 300-400k 100% boss [b]atleast[/b]. It depends on your control too. Mine is pretty bad and I end up killing myself a lot by accident at the eyes.