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Best Sylph Ring Choice

Ok, I've been getting a lot of mixed answers and I can't decide which is the best . Is it true that boss damage diminishes the more you have? Mainly debating between Boss damage and Max/Min Crit Damage. (Im at 197% boss damage, 74% min crit dmg, 93% max crit dmg w/ SE)
Thanks!

September 25, 2014

12 Comments • Newest first

RheeBreezy

I chose max crit (have 86% right now) just because I want to see much higher numbers.

Reply September 25, 2014
Dulcet

@z3non: I decided to go with min crit since i dont really do a lot of bosses >~< and my boss damage was 102% actually.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
z3non

[quote=Dulcet]Going back to this, as a shade which would be the best from these since shades have built in 90% crit rate after a monster hits 50% of their health. I have 15% crit rate atm and will have 30% when i get a phantom link skill making it so i have 100% crit after a monster is at 50% health. My boss damage is about 96% i think. Would it be better to get a boss damage ring or a Crit chance ring?

Currently on the selection screen and need an answer asap[/quote]

In your case, I would suggest getting the boss damage ring unless you're planning on getting 200%+ boss damage in the near future.

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Dulcet

[quote=Axnslicer]People have already done the math, it's generally agreed that the best ring is dependent on circumstances

1. If you don't have 100% crit, 10% crit rate, though at this particular point you're probably better of with a pivotal crit ring
2. If you have 100% crit and over 150% boss+total damage, 10% min crit damage
3. If you have 100% crit and less than 150% boss+total damage, 10% boss
.[/quote]

Going back to this, as a shade which would be the best from these since shades have built in 90% crit rate after a monster hits 50% of their health. I have 15% crit rate atm and will have 30% when i get a phantom link skill making it so i have 100% crit after a monster is at 50% health. My boss damage is about 96% i think. Would it be better to get a boss damage ring or a Crit chance ring?

Currently on the selection screen and need an answer asap

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
rlrlrlrl

Is min crit still the worth for heroes? Since our criticals are lower than other classes...

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=tifa]@5p33dI3
*biomed student pretending to be an economic major*

Don't forget the capping group, especially for a class that can reach that point easily. As a capping MM i'm going with status resist, i think. :c Though maybe i'll regret this the next time they raise cap/revamp skills[/quote]

That's true, but I figure the people who consistently cap probably have LGRs or something and don't need to worry about the Sylph ring. I forgot status resist was in there actually, but I can see how that would be useful. Personally I cap status resist with a resist potion, but I guess if you really want more status resist and already do enough damage, it's fine.

[quote=Gildarts]Nice input! I was deciding either PDR or Boss ATT, and I chose the pdr ring because I currently have 85% pdr and 309% boss damage. I didn't pick the boss att one because I have already enough boss %? And I wanted to reach 100% pdr, did I made a mistake? Is there a way to change it?[/quote]

That was a mistake and unfortunately I don't know of any way to change rings once you've chosen. Hopefully the option comes up later?

Reasoning is simply

10% additional pdr means you go from 85->86.5% pdr. Ignoring 1.5% more of the opponents defense is generally weaker than having 10% more min crit damage, which translates to a 2-3% increase in dps.

That said, the ring isn't really all that good compared to potential rings. For most people, 2-3% more dps is just about 8-12% more stat, and a 12% stat ring isn't all that impressive. If you made the wrong choice I wouldn't worry about it, you can probably find a better cracked Gollux ring.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
juubee

[quote=5p33dI3]@tifa : pulling out that econ language

Will the damage skin expire if you apply it to the character?[/quote]
The damage skin you get from the quest will stay in your Use inventory until 10/22. Then it will expire. So best to save your current skin (if any) using the item you get before you apply this week's skin.

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Gildarts

[quote=Axnslicer]People have already done the math, it's generally agreed that the best ring is dependent on circumstances

1. If you don't have 100% crit, 10% crit rate, though at this particular point you're probably better of with a pivotal crit ring
2. If you have 100% crit and over 150% boss+total damage, 10% min crit damage
3. If you have 100% crit and less than 150% boss+total damage, 10% boss

Most funded people fall into category 2, unfunded people fall into category 1 or 3.

10% PDR is a waste of time and 10% min crit is almost always better than 10% max crit.[/quote]

Nice input! I was deciding either PDR or Boss ATT, and I chose the pdr ring because I currently have 85% pdr and 309% boss damage. I didn't pick the boss att one because I have already enough boss %? And I wanted to reach 100% pdr, did I made a mistake? Is there a way to change it?

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
5p33dI3

@tifa : pulling out that econ language

Will the damage skin expire if you apply it to the character?

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

People have already done the math, it's generally agreed that the best ring is dependent on circumstances

1. If you don't have 100% crit, 10% crit rate, though at this particular point you're probably better of with a pivotal crit ring
2. If you have 100% crit and over 150% boss+total damage, 10% min crit damage
3. If you have 100% crit and less than 150% boss+total damage, 10% boss

Most funded people fall into category 2, unfunded people fall into category 1 or 3.

10% PDR is a waste of time and 10% min crit is almost always better than 10% max crit.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
GraffitiSkyez

Pretty sure boss dmg is additive, not multiplicative like PDR. So whereas PDR gets harder and harder to get the more you have, Boss% just adds up. Pretty sure.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
chudi

Idk what you mean by diminishes, but the boss damage on affect your damage on bosses, the crit rings affect your damage on everything.

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