Im thinking of going Heroic
Well, I have 52% str and a 147 att Psb with 6% att
Im currently hitting 38-60k's per darkimpale
My range is 19-21k
Now, My friend, (who mind you does not even have all his skills maxed) Is doing my damage per IS :o His range is 13-16k
This ALONE, has swayed me to consider making a hero, Assume my range for this hero is 19k-20k clean range meaning no combo orbs or enrage or anything like that, can anyone predict my damage per IS?
November 9, 2011
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to me 10k per IS is good enough lol
[quote=kosic3]With a 20k range, you will be hitting around 95k's with IS assuming you have ACA30, but without you'll be doing 40k's~55k's[/quote]
O ok Thanks! So im guessing GOOD damage is around 200k per IS? Meaning... 40k range with ACA 30, correct?
With a 20k range, you will be hitting around 95k's with IS assuming you have ACA30, but without you'll be doing 40k's~55k's
[quote=envoyxp]Getting a 19-20k is not a walk in the park since you have to consider that heroes have a weapon multiplier of 1.2 (for 1h) and 1.35 for 2h while dk's have 1.49.[/quote]
There are ways to get a 150 att+ weapon. . .
So, Assuming I CAN get a 19-20k range on a Hero, it would be better than my Drk, Correct
DI hits 6 monsters not 5. It hits 6 monsters 5 times. IS beats DI on mobs of 1-4. Coma + IS is more or less equal to DI on mobs of 5. DI is better (only about 5% more DPM IIRC) on mobs of 6 than Coma + IS. If the Hero and DrK don't have other sources of %ignore the Hero will win out on mobs of 5 and be equal on mobs of 6 at LHC monsters and win out on both at Zak arms (actually the Hero would be IS spamming there and win anyway since actually hitting 6 arms is hard/impossible for a Hero). Oh yes and this was all calculated with the extra multiplier and higher mastery rate of a DrK taken into consideration. If you actually had the same range the Hero would win at any mob count but since PA/Spear have a higher multiplier and DrK have more mastery they can narrowly win out on mobs of 6 assuming all equips are the same other than weapon.
Yup, So I'm definetley making a hero.
@shinZ: I believe that on 5+ Mobs using a iSlash + Coma combination leads to a higher DPS, more or less close to a DrK Spamming Dark Impale.
Heroes outdamage drks on mobs of 1-4, anymore and the drk wins.
Edit: Forgot to add that you shouldn't except to have a 20k range on your hero at the same level as your dark. Pole arms have a better multiplier than both 1h and 2h swords/axes.
DI hits 5 monsters i believe. . .
how much does dark impale hit? 5 monsters? 6 monsters?
IS hits 4 monsters, there's an advantage for DrKs there
i guess the advantage for each depends on the amount of monsters
Sooo can anyone throw out a ballpark Dmge per IS estimate?
[quote=shadowkilzz]Well I guess that kind of helps^ so for sure, I would be doing more DPS on a hero, correct?[/quote]
Well yes, but not necessarily. iirc Heroes dominate DrKs 1v1 (I've had a DrK as a main for quite a while) I can say this without a doubt.
Mobbing wise Heroes are more or less the same as DrKs.
@Above: Enrage is terrible at LHC. it limits you to attacking one monster. lol.
The only time it's useful is during 1v1 bossing.
But doesnt enrage only amplify my damage on a SPECIFIC monster? meaning it wouldnt be ALL that helpful on lhc right?
Assuming what skills maxed?
Assuming same level as your DrK? That would mean IS, ACA, and CM would be maxed along with either 20 Stance, Enrage, or AFA. So that would mean you would be doing 90k *3 with a 20k range with 40% ignore. If you actually had Enrage maxed it would be 144k *3 but only to 1 monster.
Well I guess that kind of helps^ so for sure, I would be doing more DPS on a hero, correct?
Well, right now my level 109 Crusader has a max range of 20k, and is dishing out 55k's on non-crit (With Brandish, and 5 CA orbs)
Assuming the damage % per line on IS is nearly the same as Brandish and ACA is +75% better than CA I'd say around 90k per line w/o enrage?
I've never really inspected my damage w/o buffs/Orbs honestly xD.