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Demonslayer

Range to 1hko Sh2

Title ^ For demon slayers ...

Also is it %att --> %dmg ---> %str?

September 11, 2014

14 Comments • Newest first

chickenpoodl

[quote=Iamcalled]Hey Steve anyway i could sit down with you in game and talk too you?[/quote]
ya definitely. you free some time today?

Reply October 19, 2014
Iamcalled

Hey Steve anyway i could sit down with you in game and talk too you?

Reply October 16, 2014
chickenpoodl

the sylph ring will start showing its colors after the next 2 weeks.
I probably would of recommended the max/min crit ring, for longer term purposes, but the boss% will do just fine.
and maybe by the time you acquire more boss%, and the ring becomes a tad more inefficient, you may have stumbled across something even better.

Reply October 8, 2014
Iamcalled

I took the Boss Damage Sylph Ring, not sure yet if i should replace it yet since its -13k to the solid ring (being the worst). Ty for your Help btw, I'm very grateful.

Reply October 7, 2014
chickenpoodl

that's a very solid base to work with.
you have a pretty decent amount of atk% too.

looking right away, at your weapon/shield/emblem combination, I see that you can potentially swap that shield potential to a couple lines of boss%. you're lacking a bit sitting at 140%. the shield main pot can push that up to 190-200, easily. plus a few levels will give you an extra 5% more.
weapon nebulites will be entirely up to what potentials you end up with on the shield.
if you land boss lines, atk% nebulites will work on the weapon+shield.
if you land even better atk% lines, boss nebulites might be your choice.
you can regain the atk% by future improvements to the bonus potentials on the shield + emblem.
this should push your boss% and atk% up to approx. 200-225ish, and 70ish, respectively.

aside from that, you already know what else are avenues of upgrade. recubing some gears for unique/legendary with 15%+ or something.
some 9's can become 12 or 15.
after that's done, and you're looking for more, those 12-15's can eventually become 18-21's or more!

im not sure which sylph ring you picked, but it could potentially replace that solid ring, or tempest ring.

meanwhile doing all that, you can start to keep an eye open for a tier 3 heart, and everything should be in place!

Reply October 7, 2014
Iamcalled

Back @ you Chicken. Based off what i currently have in equips and Some link skills, in your opinion what show i change or do from here? I mean i know i need to cube some %Str on most things I have aprox 50% Att little less. The pic should give you a clear idea on the rest. Let me know if there is anything you cant see clearly or need to know. Ty

P.S. Ive seen your vidoes/ and I personally remember you WAY back, you took me to Czak. Dont be so modest. Your Pro C:

http://i.imgur.com/UNZVUBQ.jpg

Reply October 6, 2014
chickenpoodl

@Iamcalled: you need a balance of all of it. anyone focusing primarily on just one, or the other, won't be as strong as someone who has a good combination of both.
a demon slayer has a few passive damage% sources already, so we're a bit ahead in terms of that.
30% boss from demon impact, 35% dmg from dark meta, insult to injury, 15%, focused fury 25%
so that's already 105% dmg, not including boss% lines on your weapon/shield, links, nebulites, etc.

so having said that, atk% might be something good to aim for at first, but the overall picture is important.
if you're cubing your shield and you hit 60%boss and a third good useful line (like crit/atk/pdr) you'll want to keep that. atleast for now.
then proceed onto cubing your weapon, or vice versa. it'll be ideal if you hit those 15-21%atk lines, but just remember that unless you're willing to pour in a lot of money into perfecting those lines, you'll be stopping at what you feel is "Adequate".
4%atk nebs are probably better for us than 25%boss nebs.
we have a good number of def ignore sources, so using the empress codex might be a better idea for another 3%atk.

and me pro? no lol, far from it. just been around for a long time. haha

Reply October 2, 2014
Iamcalled

[quote=chickenpoodl]lets just say you never want %dmg because its additive with other damage sources including boss%

so whenever you can get atk% or boss%, you want atk% or boss%.
otherwise you're looking at str%.

later on as you get stronger, you'll realize those %dmg lines hinder you because you won't be keeping them.[/quote]

What is better to have % att or % Boss in referance to DS obviousl., Ive have asked this question alot. Considering how Pro you are, your answer i could really take to mind.

Reply October 1, 2014
chickenpoodl

lets just say you never want %dmg because its additive with other damage sources including boss%

so whenever you can get atk% or boss%, you want atk% or boss%.
otherwise you're looking at str%.

later on as you get stronger, you'll realize those %dmg lines hinder you because you won't be keeping them.

Reply September 30, 2014
Killinme

Atm I have a 460k range buffed and with blue blood I ohko at sh. Doing 2.5m per line with cry.

Reply September 29, 2014
Iamcalled

1m range 48% att 164% str idk but low Dmg 1 hit with Demon impact, 1m range buffed with same stats and Blood 1hit Demon cry

Reply September 24, 2014
daviddabest

i have 200k buffed with dark meta and mw and I two hit with blue blood as a lvl 187
so maybe 900k buffed

Reply September 11, 2014
Jyenna

1.3-1.4m unbuffed if you wish to 1hit with 60-70% crit rate & no blue blood / no metamorphosis demon cry.

source) 240 ds in bera

and yes %att>%dmg>%stat

Reply September 11, 2014 - edited
OhMahGun

Not too sure of the exact range, but you can have a rough estimate. The mobs have around 21 million hp. Add up how much damage you do per attack and divide 21 million by this number. Now multiply that number with your current range to get an estimate.

Yes, that relationship is correct.

Reply September 11, 2014 - edited