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Okay, for anyone who cares, I finished the arms in 15 minutes (I can see the usefulness of stance now, I will work on that after I finish twister spin, I primarily PVP on Tia anyways), but couldn't finish the run because my dog got in at a bad time (as in 1/1 *smack*).

At this point, I do not think I stand a realistic chance of soloing Zakum at a decent clip.

Anyways, thanks for the advice!

[quote=MaxxDK]I'd say about 2 pm Basil time[/quote]

Funny. <3

[quote=Mysteltein]What is this? I don't get it.[/quote]

It's an answer to the title in a literal fashion for humorous purposes.

@Cthulhusama: Lol yeah that top right arm gets me every time, even with max stance. XD It is a good thing bams have teleport, without it, bams would be on the same boat as Drk's, and Hero's.

@DeathmanX0: Oh I agree that it is very useful. I loved it when I finally had max stance on my BaM and tried Zakking again. It was 100X more fun.

The part about needing it more on a Hero is more that in order to hit the top right arm with IS I need to basically be right next to the arm which means being right next to the edge of the platform. This makes it much easier to fall off. With my BaM I can be a little farther back which means I can manage to get hit and just barely not fall of the edge. Or (since it is the last arm I kill) I can time it so I teleport backwards right before he attacks and he just knocks me back towards him without knocking me off the platform.

Basically my point is that the difference between a BaM with 0 stance fighting Zak and a BaM with 30 stance fighting Zak is smaller than the difference between a Hero/Pally/DrK with 0 Stance and a Hero/Pally/DrK with 30 stance. Actually since a Pally could have Guardian they don't need stance as much either come to think of it. Any class would benefit from having stance of course.

Oh and as for TS I find that I do close to if not more damage than I do with FB + The Finisher although that is only if I can teleport with it and it doesn't work on some of his arms (like the stupid top right arm....). PS I use for.... the top right arm... so I don't have to worry about that 10% chance of being KBed lol.

@Cthulhusama: Your argument makes sense. I understand that Hero's, Pally's, And Drk's need stance, because they have low mobility. But it's not fair to compare to need for stance on the warrior class to the Battle Mage class. It is true that Bams can use TS, PS, and a decent range with FB + Finisher. But if a Bam is trying to solo at a fast speed, then how will they maximize their solo time, if they do not have speed? Since this thread is about soloing Zakum, one might subject that any class without a stance skill will have a slower soloing time.

Bam indeed have access to TS, and PS. The problem with TS in itself is that slow DPM. Sure you can teleport up and be close enough to hit the arms on Zakum, but the scarfise of DPM is draw out. And PS only works once every seven minutes currently. In my opinion it is only useful is a party member is lagging out so they cannot heal, or just to be able to buff up when Zakum is giving a hard time.

Stance would be needed on the top and middle platforms, since the bottom arms are easy to kill anyways. But to avoid being knocked off platforms, the Bam would need Stance. If the Bam can stand on the middle platform while attack Zakums arms, then it can hit three out of four arms. And when trying to hit the two top arms, getting knocked off will cause a decrease in DPM.

Anyways, the point is not to prove your opinion wrong. Sorry if i offended in any way. The whole point is that any class will need a stance in order to have a fast and speedily solo time.

[quote=DeathmanX0]^ You must be crazy. Try standing on the middle platform without stance. The end result is slowing down DPM. You might forget that FB and finisher dont hit upwards. XD[/quote]

You can stand on the top right platform for when hitting the top right arm and just time your teleports with his attacks since it should be the last arm anyway.
You start off attacking the bottom left two (or all four bottom ones if you can manage) since the status effects are annoying. Being knocked around isn't so bad here since you are on the ground.
After you kill them you go for the right three bottom arms and you may get knocked off every know and then but it isn't that hard to get back and TS makes things even easier.
Then you kill top right two arms which is easy since his attacks knock you back on the platform so you should never fall off. TS again helps.

I'm not saying Stance isn't awesome. I'm not saying Stance isn't very useful at Zakum. I'm saying that compared to a Hero, Pally, or even a DrK (less so for them though) the BaM needs it less. TS, PS, and the larger range of FB + The Finisher makes Stance less needed.

^ You must be crazy. Try standing on the middle platform without stance. The end result is slowing down DPM. You might forget that FB and finisher dont hit upwards. XD

Stance isn't as important for a BaM at Zak as it is for a Hero since FB and The Finisher have such a large hit box compared to IS. Stance 30 would obviously be an asset for killing Zak but isn't that important since it is really only needed for top right arm and that is a small part of the whole fight.

I have soloed Zak once, took 20 minuites roughtly. As stated above, having 30 stance really helps. XD

I would say the only real problem with a solo would be that level 10 Power Stance. It may make the fight take alot longer if you keep falling off of the platform. After that, it's luck with the magic cancellation. If you can try it, I say go for it. Or you could also wait for the Resistance revamp if you wish to get max Power Stance.