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Help with Chaos Pierre

Hey guys. I might tag along with one of my alliance members and a group of people to go on a Chaos Pierre run and currently here's what I know about the fight:

-Same basic rules apply for the Chaos version. Attack the opposite color Pierre of your hat.
-Blue is the fire tornado and Red is the insta-kill umbrella attack. If blue is following you while you have a blue hat, stay in place so he'll stay in place if needed (dark sight avoids touch damage but not the fire DoT apparently).
-Bring all-cures for seal and a pot every time you're hit
-The clones really suck. They appear at around 60% HP or so?
-Keep a tab on each clone, and make sure that they die within about 10 seconds of each other
-Before you kill them, group them together so they don't get seperated.
-Allow one or two high DPS members to kill themselves to get rid of their hats, and then proceed to murder said clones. (Probably me and my friend since we're both DBs)

However, I heard that C.Pierre got a LOT more annoying with the hat drop attack and his color switching, plus the clones near death need to die at the exact same time, or else more spawn vs having a bit of a time window than before. Any tips or anything else I should know about the fight?

February 2, 2014

9 Comments • Newest first

Gummybearwizard

@TheBaldAran: No problem, hope you succeed! Even with great attackers it's hard to time and finish, don't give up haha.

Reply February 2, 2014
TheBaldAran

@Gummybearwizard:
Alright, now I'm starting to get the gist of this fight a bit more. I'm guessing that we could let our extra member gauge the hp bars since he has the lowest range out of all of us, at about 77k max cause hes there for drops. And most likely, all of us will kill ourselves at the middle once their hp is near 0 with the exception of my friend so he can have an easier time killing both within seconds of eachother. Thank you for your help This is REALLY useful information, and I think I'll be prepared for our next run because of you guys.

Reply February 2, 2014
Gummybearwizard

@TheBaldAran: The dead member's hat colours shouldn't matter. Sure,someone could tank blue pierre at the end for you, and corners are best but him targeting a dead party member, hopefully someone in the corner works fine too. For the end, ideally, the person blue pierre is targeting being near multiple dead people could work well because red pierre will teleport there often but at the same time we've done this before we got blue's hp down and it made it hard to bring down blue's without dying from red pierre or hitting red pierre.
Communication is important. You can't see both hp bars at once so yelling something like STOP RED is helpful. Also, if you have multiple high dps attackers don't let maybe more than one poke them to low hp or they'll just kill it. At the end maybe ask everyone but the best attacker who can't sit still to just die.

Reply February 2, 2014
TheBaldAran

@Gummybearwizard

Okay, so the red pierre takes priority over the blue since its a pain, and stay away from people who are staying dead near the end. Gotcha.
I guess the end is where our team might have the most trouble, cause, like you said, its hard to gauge when to kill both at the same time, AND at the same time. I'm guessing if someone could get the blue pierre's mark and lead it to where a dead member with a red hat is (so red pierre will stay near him) and my friend asuras both, we should be fine. Thanks for the info, and hopefully this run will go better than the last one. (I didn't tag along, but apparently no one would sit still during the end, and one person lured the blue away from the red)

@tifa

Hmm, good thing I still have a potion pot and auto pet from my pet, since I heard that the hats + the red pierre can quickly become a big problem if you can't get out quick enough. I think we might be able to get another alliance member of ours whos coming just for drops to act as the sacrificial lamb for the blue one so we can focus on red first, but I'll have to check in with the other members of the run to see how we'll fare dps wise.

Reply February 2, 2014 - edited
Gummybearwizard

It splits at about 30-40% health. Attackers should die at this point to make sure they don't have a hat. However, if they have a blue hat and can be careful not to hit the blue pierre they could keep it because I suggest you lower red's health first. It's the most annoying and time consuming of the two since you can't always hit it.

By the end you'll probably have multiple people staying dead throughout the map. Red pierre will still target these people so if there's a cluster of them avoid being around these people when red pierre comes back for his 1 hit ko.

It seems to be exact same second, which is very tricky. Keep poking each pierre until the health bar looks empty but has not died yet. This is when you should try to get both pierres close and attack with a high damage attack that hits multiple mobs at the same exact time. The db in my party was having some issues doing this with his asura but it might have just been his control considering he just switched to db.

Be careful luring them.Ideally, blue should be stuck on a dead person and try and make red walk over and time it so it doesn't seem like he's about to teleport out of your asura's range.

Reply February 2, 2014 - edited
TheBaldAran

Thanks for the info and tips guys

Hmm, so they need to die in the same Asura by one person eh, since that counts as a single attack? I guess that'd be a job for my friend then, since he has a higher range and boss %, plus I'm pretty sure he uses a SW dagger + MPE pot during CRA which means more hits per second. So I'm guessing if I could lure both bosses in the same place for him, it would help him dish out the finishing blow, no?

Reply February 2, 2014 - edited
WeaselPopPills

keep an eye on red at all times, when it disappears, wait till you see it reappear then use tornado spin to dodge his attack

you basically need to kill both of the clowns in the same attack. so let one person bring their hp down at the very end.

Reply February 2, 2014 - edited
MapleBhav

Dark sight avoids touch damage but not the fire DoT (no apparently needed)
Clones appear around 30~40% iirc
I think you have to kill both at the same time, when we went a few days ago as soon as 1 died it healed. (Use an ulti on both)

Reply February 2, 2014 - edited
Rorik92

nope you've got the basics down, gl hf though

Reply February 2, 2014 - edited