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Switching to a Shadower

Hi if i were to switch to a Shadower from a DB will my range go down by a tremendous amount or will it stay the same i only have a faf dagger and i dont really know what the secondary wep for a shadower is.
my range is 500k buffed and 450k clean.

February 23, 2015

10 Comments • Newest first

XsefiX

If you will get a 5~7b Dkhajar, your range will go 50~100k more I assume. Not mentioning the 50% crit chance, or the ridiculous avoid and max def without trying (+110%).
As for bossing- I'll write some of what I know, probably missing out of some stuff.
DB:
+ Asura (the hyper, I think thats the name )
+ Lifesteal.
+ Long range dash.
+ High attack speed.
Shadower:
+ Smokescreen - 100% avoid and more crit damge.
+ 100m base cap.
+ 20% PDR

Reply February 23, 2015
Lehvahk

The range should go up a bit, maybe one hundred thousand at most. But once you get a decent khanjar it'll go up quite a bit. Shad is fun

Reply February 23, 2015
TheKingslayer

But why? Dbs are about to get a cool down buff on asura and a dmg buff on phantom blow.. o.o

Stay db.

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
AntiSenpai

@GetDefensive: I know this, but it's no Dragon Khanjar, which means it's garbage.

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
GetDefensive

[quote=AntiSenpai]Shadower secondary is usually a Shield, mainly the Dragon Khanjar. (Mostly for looks but also because it comes stock with 15-19 att) http://imgur.com/ZwdrGms

Now for your range, you will lose a bit of range due to you losing your Katara, let's say you lose 50k I'll show you what kind of damage you'll be able to do (give or take a bit)
At 400k-ish You'll be doing this damage with BStep http://imgur.com/GJm5AVN
And this amount of damage with Assassinate First hit http://imgur.com/ChDadj8 and Here with Nate's second hit http://imgur.com/dDSl1TI
And here with Midnight Carnival http://imgur.com/0s9epBK

There's not much of a difference between 400 and 450k range, you'll hit around 200-300k more a line.

But yeah, you need a shield for shield mastery and what not, so can get one, I'd say get a Dragon Khanjar, they're the best out of all other options.

You can use the SS I've provided to compare to your damage now and to what yours will be like as a Shadower, also note that at first you will feel a ton slower, and well you will be a lot slower than compared to a DB. But once you get to know your combos and see that if you use this skill prior to this other one then it cuts the animation in half and makes both skills faster, and once you get green MPE pots, it'll be all good ^^ I've kinda been wanting to do some Shadower videos to help people learn control and how to handle situations as a Shadower... but mehh. If you need help, feel free to contact me.[/quote]

Secondary weapon also works with shield mastery.

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
BimmieMcGee

[quote=AntiSenpai]Shadower secondary is usually a Shield, mainly the Dragon Khanjar. (Mostly for looks but also because it comes stock with 15-19 att) http://imgur.com/ZwdrGms

Now for your range, you will lose a bit of range due to you losing your Katara, let's say you lose 50k I'll show you what kind of damage you'll be able to do (give or take a bit)
At 400k-ish You'll be doing this damage with BStep http://imgur.com/GJm5AVN
And this amount of damage with Assassinate First hit http://imgur.com/ChDadj8 and Here with Nate's second hit http://imgur.com/dDSl1TI
And here with Midnight Carnival http://imgur.com/0s9epBK

There's not much of a difference between 400 and 450k range, you'll hit around 200-300k more a line.

But yeah, you need a shield for shield mastery and what not, so can get one, I'd say get a Dragon Khanjar, they're the best out of all other options.

You can use the SS I've provided to compare to your damage now and to what yours will be like as a Shadower, also note that at first you will feel a ton slower, and well you will be a lot slower than compared to a DB. But once you get to know your combos and see that if you use this skill prior to this other one then it cuts the animation in half and makes both skills faster, and once you get green MPE pots, it'll be all good ^^ I've kinda been wanting to do some Shadower videos to help people learn control and how to handle situations as a Shadower... but mehh. If you need help, feel free to contact me.[/quote]

What combos are you referring to? When bossing all I do is spam Nate, and when training I just Phase Dash from one side of SDH to another

I'm assuming these combos are with BStep? I hardly use it nowadays to be honest :x

And I think you'd make a pretty great channel! You seem to be really knowledgeable about the class, and it could be a great help to the Shadower community, which has really died since Pat and company quit.

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
AntiSenpai

Shadower secondary is usually a Shield, mainly the Dragon Khanjar. (Mostly for looks but also because it comes stock with 15-19 att) http://imgur.com/ZwdrGms

Now for your range, you will lose a bit of range due to you losing your Katara, let's say you lose 50k I'll show you what kind of damage you'll be able to do (give or take a bit)
At 400k-ish You'll be doing this damage with BStep http://imgur.com/GJm5AVN
And this amount of damage with Assassinate First hit http://imgur.com/ChDadj8 and Here with Nate's second hit http://imgur.com/dDSl1TI
And here with Midnight Carnival http://imgur.com/0s9epBK

There's not much of a difference between 400 and 450k range, you'll hit around 200-300k more a line.

But yeah, you need a shield for shield mastery and what not, so can get one, I'd say get a Dragon Khanjar, they're the best out of all other options.

You can use the SS I've provided to compare to your damage now and to what yours will be like as a Shadower, also note that at first you will feel a ton slower, and well you will be a lot slower than compared to a DB. But once you get to know your combos and see that if you use this skill prior to this other one then it cuts the animation in half and makes both skills faster, and once you get green MPE pots, it'll be all good ^^ I've kinda been wanting to do some Shadower videos to help people learn control and how to handle situations as a Shadower... but mehh. If you need help, feel free to contact me.

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
TheUltimatum

I would like to add to this thread if you dont mind: How are DB's and Shadowers when compared in bossing?
OT:Secondary weapon for shadower is a thief shield, (Dragon Khanjar)

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
gooddeals

I dont know if its cuz i didnt have a decent secondary for shad but my range went down abit although i did hit harder

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited
LolItsTom

Shadower buffed range is pretty substantial. Considering Killer Instinct, and Flip the Coin

Reply February 23, 2015 - edited