Damage wise, we're a lot lower than we used to be. We don't have a lot of survivability anymore, either, since HP, def, and avoid are useless now. We're very much valued in parties, though, since ADA is basically +25% damage to your party members. We also train pretty easily 170+ thanks to BKB's insane range.
Battlemage plays like a teleporting warrior, rather than a mage, so keep that in mind, too.
nexon is so so so so so so bad. wow. no toggle/macro bkb? no form of ele reset on bam? wtf are these efin cds on major skills? I loved bam until 170 but dam nexon is horrible.
They really have only 2 things that really hurt when playing a BaM bossing end game, no elemental reset so our damage is decreased by half on all the important bosses, and second would be a horrendously long rebuffing period (the three auras alone take a good 5+ seconds alone it feels like) along with large cooldowns on major skills that make dying horrible (which we tend to do on occasion as we have no reliable form of %hp protection).
Other than those, I have no complaints for my BaM when bossing.
@halfness12: Kannas that put weights on their keys to afk kishin get banned. I don't see that as "gaining a significant and unfair advantage over others in-game", yet they get banned anyways. I'm not going to argue what you think cheating or not cheating is, it's subjective to everyone. Saying anything negative in this subforum just results in getting attacked by the handful of you who don't seem to see the negatives of Battles Mages and for those that do, you cheat to get around them. There's no point arguing.
STRICTLY IMO, Battle mages are not as great as everyone makes them out to be. I wish I had known about all the problems I would encounter before I spent 11 months maining one. I'm just trying to inform people who don't know and most of the time on this subforum all I see are biased posts about how great they are.
[quote=halfness12]Wow, I never knew that input support was cheating. Your view of what cheating is and isn't is incredibly skewed, and I suggest you please revise it.
Aren't we talking about Battle Mages...?[/quote] You excuses to justify cheating need to be revised. The OP asked a question relating to how good BaMs are, implying he's interested in making one. I'm just advising him not to.
@halfness12: So you're saying as long as it doesn't effect others it's okay to cheat? OR YOU COULD JUST MAKE SOME OTHER MAGE WITH THE SAME EXACT GEAR THAT A BAM WOULD USE THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT ON. !
@halfness12: Using 3rd party programs are against the ToS. Are you saying I should break the rules? My statements are based off of the assumption that people follow them.
@Ness: I've tried using a controller to play Maple but I prefer the keyboard cause I felt too far away from the screen. And Maplestory was intended to be played with a keyboard not a controller so you can't use that to justify the spammi-ness of BaMs.
I moved all my gear from my BaM to a F/p and my damage output at bosses tripled because BaMs don't have elemental reset. Training sucks on a BaM because you have to button mash. Bossing sucks because even though they have a bunch of def and avoid they still die easily. The only thing good was being able to aura my friends during boss runs, and that still wasn't great because every time you die you have to recast them, and they take forever. You die before you can cast them all in time. And you lose the ability to aura others when you use big crunch aura so that skill can't even be used when you boss with others. The only reason I made a BaM was because they had Sweeping Staff that was useful when training at Hoh and since that got nerfed, there's no point anymore.
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Damage wise, we're a lot lower than we used to be. We don't have a lot of survivability anymore, either, since HP, def, and avoid are useless now.
We're very much valued in parties, though, since ADA is basically +25% damage to your party members. We also train pretty easily 170+ thanks to BKB's insane range.
Battlemage plays like a teleporting warrior, rather than a mage, so keep that in mind, too.
really really really terrible.
[quote=ImCrunk]Well atleast you actually have to fund a bit instead of hitting cap on RA bosses with lv10 gear like fp mages.[/quote]
-cough- Hater! -cough-
Well atleast you actually have to fund a bit instead of hitting cap on RA bosses with lv10 gear like fp mages.
nexon is so so so so so so bad. wow. no toggle/macro bkb? no form of ele reset on bam? wtf are these efin cds on major skills? I loved bam until 170 but dam nexon is horrible.
One of the only things .... LOL ... if you die while those skills that buff your auras are still in duration mode, Well ~
They really have only 2 things that really hurt when playing a BaM bossing end game, no elemental reset so our damage is decreased by half on all the important bosses, and second would be a horrendously long rebuffing period (the three auras alone take a good 5+ seconds alone it feels like) along with large cooldowns on major skills that make dying horrible (which we tend to do on occasion as we have no reliable form of %hp protection).
Other than those, I have no complaints for my BaM when bossing.
@halfness12: Kannas that put weights on their keys to afk kishin get banned. I don't see that as "gaining a significant and unfair advantage over others in-game", yet they get banned anyways. I'm not going to argue what you think cheating or not cheating is, it's subjective to everyone. Saying anything negative in this subforum just results in getting attacked by the handful of you who don't seem to see the negatives of Battles Mages and for those that do, you cheat to get around them. There's no point arguing.
STRICTLY IMO, Battle mages are not as great as everyone makes them out to be. I wish I had known about all the problems I would encounter before I spent 11 months maining one. I'm just trying to inform people who don't know and most of the time on this subforum all I see are biased posts about how great they are.
[quote=halfness12]Wow, I never knew that input support was cheating. Your view of what cheating is and isn't is incredibly skewed, and I suggest you please revise it.
Aren't we talking about Battle Mages...?[/quote]
You excuses to justify cheating need to be revised. The OP asked a question relating to how good BaMs are, implying he's interested in making one. I'm just advising him not to.
@halfness12: So you're saying as long as it doesn't effect others it's okay to cheat? OR YOU COULD JUST MAKE SOME OTHER MAGE WITH THE SAME EXACT GEAR THAT A BAM WOULD USE THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT ON. !
@halfness12: Using 3rd party programs are against the ToS. Are you saying I should break the rules? My statements are based off of the assumption that people follow them.
@halfness12: Not everyone has access to a controller. The majority of the players use keyboards. And even so you still have to button mash.
They have good stance and invincibility skills, they also attack pretty fast.
@Ness: I've tried using a controller to play Maple but I prefer the keyboard cause I felt too far away from the screen. And Maplestory was intended to be played with a keyboard not a controller so you can't use that to justify the spammi-ness of BaMs.
[quote=Rationalism]Training sucks on a BaM because you have to button mash.[/quote]
>2011+3
>not using a controller to avoid dumb button spam and carpal tunnel
I moved all my gear from my BaM to a F/p and my damage output at bosses tripled because BaMs don't have elemental reset. Training sucks on a BaM because you have to button mash. Bossing sucks because even though they have a bunch of def and avoid they still die easily. The only thing good was being able to aura my friends during boss runs, and that still wasn't great because every time you die you have to recast them, and they take forever. You die before you can cast them all in time. And you lose the ability to aura others when you use big crunch aura so that skill can't even be used when you boss with others. The only reason I made a BaM was because they had Sweeping Staff that was useful when training at Hoh and since that got nerfed, there's no point anymore.
they are pretty superb at dps but require a lot more funding than other classes to reach optimal damage
Waiting for @Mark24 to say how terrible they are.
OT: They're pretty good but only after they get their 170 hyper.
one of the best, actually
They're pretty high up there in terms of bossing ability, not DB, phantom, or BM good, but better than most classes.
Everything is. Just not as much as others.