I don't even NL and I think its bull that bm get FJ, thats like the NL's thing in combination to ranged attack. With WH it made sense since it was all about the mobility.
Edit: Recoil doesn't count unless sairs can suddenly recoil in the ship PS. Not even a jelly warrior because I'm satisfied with rush.
I like how ppl are jelly of BM's FJ, its a game, u don't need to play it if u feel its unfair to see all jobs getting FJ, warriors and buccs don't need FJ simply because it doesn't make sense, have u ever seen a spartan(besides in that movie that totally exaggerated in their movements due to the commercial purpurse) carring 1293818390129032131 tons of eqps (e.g. Sword+ shield + heavy armor) being able to jump like ninja (LOL) or maybe a pirate (besides one piece and manga stuff) Flying jumping like aninjaaa? I guess not, max u'll ever see is a pirate holding a rope and saying ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGG! ATTACK.
Umm anyway , I was hopping for some major changes on bowmans... IMO it still looks boring, its not FJ that will make a class fun XD.
and maple characters will never be the same ... they might have a damage capability close to each other one day but each class is each class, even if everybody gets FJ+ shadow partner. Plus, that skill doesn't even look like FJ, just the "use" of it is the same -Pushing u afar-
That logic is so twisted up, its almost as saying that Blast is equal to brave slash because both hit 3 times or even saying tripple throw + shadow partner= Savage blow without SP...
[quote=d3xl3ssfist]When other classes are getting buffed why aren't archers allowed to be buffed?[/quote]
Did I say Archers aren't allowed to be buffed?
There's a difference between just being ridiculous and giving completely unrelated, imba, or out of place buffs and actually making the class properly balanced with other classes.
hmmm.... makes me wonder if pirates and theives will get buffed as well. I kind of just want dragonstrikes speed to be fixed so it's the same when in ST also think that hermits deserve a bit of a break >_>
[quote=Kojo]If you're complaining about low HP and no mobility, why are you playing a Bowmaster? Why not play a Shadower or even a Night Lord? Having a few cons that Archers are [i]supposed[/i] to have doesn't justify giving them random similar skills from other classes.[/quote]
When other classes are getting buffed why aren't archers allowed to be buffed?
[quote=Jacob107878]I agree with this. We've always had super low hp, no mobility, and we die when we try to pot using hurricane. I think this was pretty fair for us. Thank you.[/quote]
If you're complaining about low HP and no mobility, why are you playing a Bowmaster? Why not play a Shadower or even a Night Lord? Having a few cons that Archers are [i]supposed[/i] to have doesn't justify giving them random similar skills from other classes.
[quote=d3xl3ssfist]Everyone complaining about archers can shush archers have always been given the short end of the stick, now finally they get some new skills and all you people do is hate and hate and hate seriously just grow up and stop whining
/rant[/quote]
I agree with this. We've always had super low hp, no mobility, and we die when we try to pot using hurricane. I think this was pretty fair for us. Thank you.
Everyone complaining about archers can shush archers have always been given the short end of the stick, now finally they get some new skills and all you people do is hate and hate and hate seriously just grow up and stop whining
[quote=Cocoab0ii]What makes you so sure that they gave double jump to BM/MM for the reason to balance out with the WH class huh, have you discussed dis with Nexon? Please I can't even begin to understand why they would give similar skills like fj to MM's/BM's at least it makes sense that WH's have a skill called jag jump or whatever because they ride/attack on a jaguar which are agile type creatures its understandable and if you need an explanation for thieves well that's because it was meant for us from the very beginning but BM's/MM's there aren't any right reason. You're fine with it because you yourself are a BM but if Nexon were to give us SE or even a puppet like skill you would get angry as well.[/quote]
[quote=KaRnAgE926]To the people complaining BM/MM getting FJ stop whining and suck it up, its a done deal and most of us are happy with it. NL/Shad/DB/WH/DW all have FJ, they only gave it to us BM/MM to balance it out with the WH's FJ.[/quote]
What makes you so sure that they gave double jump to BM/MM for the reason to balance out with the WH class huh, have you discussed dis with Nexon? Please I can't even begin to understand why they would give similar skills like fj to MM's/BM's at least it makes sense that WH's have a skill called jag jump or whatever because they ride/attack on a jaguar which are agile type creatures its understandable and if you need an explanation for thieves well that's because it was meant for us from the very beginning but BM's/MM's there aren't any right reason. You're fine with it because you yourself are a BM but if Nexon were to give us SE or even a puppet like skill you would get angry as well.
the update after jump, all classes will get FJ, Teleport and Mech's portal, they'll all get shadow partner or mirror image, all have advanced combo attack, advanced homing, sharp eyes, enrage, pirates revenge, advanced dark aura, speed infusion
Remember the days when hermits were the only flash jumpers, that along with shadow buddy gave the class it's tang. Nexon, get it over with, just give every job flash jump already. I'd like to backhand each person who programed flash jumping for anything other then rouges, each time I see another job use it.
[quote=KaRnAgE926]To the people complaining BM/MM getting FJ stop whining and suck it up, its a done deal and most of us are happy with it. NL/Shad/DB/WH/DW all have FJ, they only gave it to us BM/MM to balance it out with the WH's FJ.[/quote]
FJ actually fits NLs/Shad/DB. For DW it isn't even really FJ, and they're crap anyways. And WH is just a terribly designed class that shouldn't have it either, or in exchange they should have weaker attacks. Nexon should stop giving every class every skill; it takes away the individuality of each class. I disagree with "most of us are happy with it." You (and other Archers) are only happy with it because it's a blind buff to your class. Again, it's not that big of a deal because FJ is way faster, but I don't like where they're going with some of these skill changes.
To the people complaining BM/MM getting FJ stop whining and suck it up, its a done deal and most of us are happy with it. NL/Shad/DB/WH/DW all have FJ, they only gave it to us BM/MM to balance it out with the WH's FJ.
[quote=Synco].....Warriors and Buccaneers don't need Flash Jump because they are "MELEE" classes which means they are designed to be in the middle of mobbings. Bowmasters/Marksmen are a long range class which means they are not meant to be in the middle of a mob so flash jump benefits them much greater then warriors. I'm pretty sure Flash Jump was not meant to be a traveling skill. Plus Warriors/Buccaneers have the HP to support being in the middle of a huge mob while Bowmasters/marksmen don't. Coming from a guy about to make a UA Warrior, we do NOT need Flash jump.[/quote]
Oh shut up seriously dis is getting me pissed, what was the excuse for shads huh? they didn't need it they are a melee class as well, they have mesos guards so being in a mob was not a problem for them but they still got fj anyways I admit I got angry about that but my friend made a good point and pointed out that all thief already had fj except for shads so I understood that and even with wh's its understandable cuz they ride jaguars its not a surprise that they have jag jump or whatever that damned skill is called but BM'S? How does that make sense whatsoever don't give me that excuse because they need it, if they still got mobbed to the point they would swing their bows at a monster and weren't able to use any of their skills until they got away then I would understand but they changed that so they really don't need it, its just a perk everything thing else about their update is cool but giving them a skill like fj is bull how about nexon gives us NL's SE or THORNS so we can catch up to Db's since we NEED IT f3
They shouldn't have given Archers that jumping skill. Leave mobility to the Thieves, Nexon. Archers are supposed to be the powerful but not very mobile ranged class while NLs are the other way around, but YAY, THEY SCREWED THAT UP. It isn't as fast as FJ, but still.
Nexon seems to be buffing up every class and making this game almost too easy... grinding will be a lot easier and lving to 200 would become A LOT easier as well
[quote=Synco].....Warriors and Buccaneers don't need Flash Jump because they are "MELEE" classes which means they are designed to be in the middle of mobbings. Bowmasters/Marksmen are a long range class which means they are not meant to be in the middle of a mob so flash jump benefits them much greater then warriors. I'm pretty sure Flash Jump was not meant to be a traveling skill. Plus Warriors/Buccaneers have the HP to support being in the middle of a huge mob while Bowmasters/marksmen don't. Coming from a guy about to make a UA Warrior, we do NOT need Flash jump.[/quote]
You do realize that arans/dawn warriors get mobile skills right...?
[quote=Dcrulez123]bowman with fj and skill like shoul driver im making bm now[/quote]
The skill you are referring to is most likely Arrow Rain, which has been a skill for rangers forever. The only difference is that the animation gets changed up a lot and gets slowing in chaos.
[quote=DeadlyJ231]So are buccaneers >.> Besides Archers need it. For so long they would have to run away from mobs just to attack now they can just go up to them and kill plus travel a little faster.[/quote]
They can easily prevent that just by not walking in a mob... Warriors/buccaneers only have a rush skill and are slow as hell without monsters nearby to rush. @ the guy with use the mount to go faster, its still slow and it takes time to get off ur mount and start attacking and with fj u dont have that problem.
[quote=upermelvin]And yet again warriors are left out with mobility skills.... Or do warriors get Fj as well?[/quote]
So are buccaneers >.> Besides Archers need it. For so long they would have to run away from mobs just to attack now they can just go up to them and kill plus travel a little faster.
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I don't even NL and I think its bull that bm get FJ, thats like the NL's thing in combination to ranged attack. With WH it made sense since it was all about the mobility.
Edit: Recoil doesn't count unless sairs can suddenly recoil in the ship
PS. Not even a jelly warrior because I'm satisfied with rush.
[quote=wowzxers]so if archers are getting random skills why cant you play an archer?[/quote]
Because I don't like Archers. I don't see how that question is relevant to my post.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Bowmasters gets Double Jump that is similar to Flash Jump
I like how ppl are jelly of BM's FJ, its a game, u don't need to play it if u feel its unfair to see all jobs getting FJ, warriors and buccs don't need FJ simply because it doesn't make sense, have u ever seen a spartan(besides in that movie that totally exaggerated in their movements due to the commercial purpurse) carring 1293818390129032131 tons of eqps (e.g. Sword+ shield + heavy armor) being able to jump like ninja (LOL) or maybe a pirate (besides one piece and manga stuff) Flying jumping like aninjaaa? I guess not, max u'll ever see is a pirate holding a rope and saying ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGG! ATTACK.
Umm anyway , I was hopping for some major changes on bowmans... IMO it still looks boring, its not FJ that will make a class fun XD.
and maple characters will never be the same ... they might have a damage capability close to each other one day but each class is each class, even if everybody gets FJ+ shadow partner. Plus, that skill doesn't even look like FJ, just the "use" of it is the same -Pushing u afar-
That logic is so twisted up, its almost as saying that Blast is equal to brave slash because both hit 3 times or even saying tripple throw + shadow partner= Savage blow without SP...
=D They see me rolling'n hatting...
[quote=d3xl3ssfist]When other classes are getting buffed why aren't archers allowed to be buffed?[/quote]
Did I say Archers aren't allowed to be buffed?
There's a difference between just being ridiculous and giving completely unrelated, imba, or out of place buffs and actually making the class properly balanced with other classes.
hmmm.... makes me wonder if pirates and theives will get buffed as well. I kind of just want dragonstrikes speed to be fixed so it's the same when in ST also think that hermits deserve a bit of a break >_>
[quote=Kojo]If you're complaining about low HP and no mobility, why are you playing a Bowmaster? Why not play a Shadower or even a Night Lord? Having a few cons that Archers are [i]supposed[/i] to have doesn't justify giving them random similar skills from other classes.[/quote]
When other classes are getting buffed why aren't archers allowed to be buffed?
[quote=Jacob107878]I agree with this. We've always had super low hp, no mobility, and we die when we try to pot using hurricane. I think this was pretty fair for us. Thank you.[/quote]
If you're complaining about low HP and no mobility, why are you playing a Bowmaster? Why not play a Shadower or even a Night Lord? Having a few cons that Archers are [i]supposed[/i] to have doesn't justify giving them random similar skills from other classes.
Stop hating us BM's getting flash jump. Hurricane doesn't even do a lot compared to other classes and our mob skills are very useless.
[quote=d3xl3ssfist]Everyone complaining about archers can shush
archers have always been given the short end of
the stick, now finally they get some new skills
and all you people do is hate and hate and hate
seriously just grow up and stop whining
/rant[/quote]
I agree with this. We've always had super low hp, no mobility, and we die when we try to pot using hurricane. I think this was pretty fair for us. Thank you.
Everyone complaining about archers can shush
archers have always been given the short end of
the stick, now finally they get some new skills
and all you people do is hate and hate and hate
seriously just grow up and stop whining
/rant
[quote=RavensMask]I'm still waiting for the day when they stop buffing everything and give the hermits something...[/quote]
lmaoo ikr
I'm still waiting for the day when they stop buffing everything and give the hermits something...
They don't call it Maplestory [b]Jump[/b] for nothing.
(waiting for people to complain about Archer's having DJ)
[quote=Cocoab0ii]What makes you so sure that they gave double jump to BM/MM for the reason to balance out with the WH class huh, have you discussed dis with Nexon? Please I can't even begin to understand why they would give similar skills like fj to MM's/BM's at least it makes sense that WH's have a skill called jag jump or whatever because they ride/attack on a jaguar which are agile type creatures its understandable and if you need an explanation for thieves well that's because it was meant for us from the very beginning but BM's/MM's there aren't any right reason. You're fine with it because you yourself are a BM but if Nexon were to give us SE or even a puppet like skill you would get angry as well.[/quote]
Its called Decent SE gloves kthxbye.
flash jump? omg!
I just don't want bandwagoning BMs D:
[quote=KaRnAgE926]To the people complaining BM/MM getting FJ stop whining and suck it up, its a done deal and most of us are happy with it. NL/Shad/DB/WH/DW all have FJ, they only gave it to us BM/MM to balance it out with the WH's FJ.[/quote]
What makes you so sure that they gave double jump to BM/MM for the reason to balance out with the WH class huh, have you discussed dis with Nexon? Please I can't even begin to understand why they would give similar skills like fj to MM's/BM's at least it makes sense that WH's have a skill called jag jump or whatever because they ride/attack on a jaguar which are agile type creatures its understandable and if you need an explanation for thieves well that's because it was meant for us from the very beginning but BM's/MM's there aren't any right reason. You're fine with it because you yourself are a BM but if Nexon were to give us SE or even a puppet like skill you would get angry as well.
that guy's range is bad too for a lvl 175, yet he's still semi godly
now watch buccs get "shadow partner"
ima lol if this happens ^^
the update after jump, all classes will get FJ, Teleport and Mech's portal, they'll all get shadow partner or mirror image, all have advanced combo attack, advanced homing, sharp eyes, enrage, pirates revenge, advanced dark aura, speed infusion
oh, and a spammable ultimate
Remember the days when hermits were the only flash jumpers, that along with shadow buddy gave the class it's tang. Nexon, get it over with, just give every job flash jump already. I'd like to backhand each person who programed flash jumping for anything other then rouges, each time I see another job use it.
[quote=KaRnAgE926]To the people complaining BM/MM getting FJ stop whining and suck it up, its a done deal and most of us are happy with it. NL/Shad/DB/WH/DW all have FJ, they only gave it to us BM/MM to balance it out with the WH's FJ.[/quote]
FJ actually fits NLs/Shad/DB. For DW it isn't even really FJ, and they're crap anyways. And WH is just a terribly designed class that shouldn't have it either, or in exchange they should have weaker attacks. Nexon should stop giving every class every skill; it takes away the individuality of each class. I disagree with "most of us are happy with it." You (and other Archers) are only happy with it because it's a blind buff to your class. Again, it's not that big of a deal because FJ is way faster, but I don't like where they're going with some of these skill changes.
To the people complaining BM/MM getting FJ stop whining and suck it up, its a done deal and most of us are happy with it. NL/Shad/DB/WH/DW all have FJ, they only gave it to us BM/MM to balance it out with the WH's FJ.
Well, the flash jump doesn't seem too bad.. I guess NLs are still unique... never mind. ._.
[quote=Synco].....Warriors and Buccaneers don't need Flash Jump because they are "MELEE" classes which means they are designed to be in the middle of mobbings. Bowmasters/Marksmen are a long range class which means they are not meant to be in the middle of a mob so flash jump benefits them much greater then warriors. I'm pretty sure Flash Jump was not meant to be a traveling skill. Plus Warriors/Buccaneers have the HP to support being in the middle of a huge mob while Bowmasters/marksmen don't. Coming from a guy about to make a UA Warrior, we do NOT need Flash jump.[/quote]
Oh shut up seriously dis is getting me pissed, what was the excuse for shads huh? they didn't need it they are a melee class as well, they have mesos guards so being in a mob was not a problem for them but they still got fj anyways I admit I got angry about that but my friend made a good point and pointed out that all thief already had fj except for shads so I understood that and even with wh's its understandable cuz they ride jaguars its not a surprise that they have jag jump or whatever that damned skill is called but BM'S? How does that make sense whatsoever don't give me that excuse because they need it, if they still got mobbed to the point they would swing their bows at a monster and weren't able to use any of their skills until they got away then I would understand but they changed that so they really don't need it, its just a perk everything thing else about their update is cool but giving them a skill like fj is bull how about nexon gives us NL's SE or THORNS so we can catch up to Db's since we NEED IT f3
Might as well give every class FJ and SP.....
So basically, except for the weapons and job equips, every job is going to be the same in a matter of time >.>?
I swear if Buccs don't get a godly update I'm quitting.
im pretty sure it's wizet thats doing this, not nexon...lol
They shouldn't have given Archers that jumping skill. Leave mobility to the Thieves, Nexon. Archers are supposed to be the powerful but not very mobile ranged class while NLs are the other way around, but YAY, THEY SCREWED THAT UP. It isn't as fast as FJ, but still.
BM + FJ = Sex
I can't wait until they start giving everybody a shadow partner.
Nexon seems to be buffing up every class and making this game almost too easy... grinding will be a lot easier and lving to 200 would become A LOT easier as well
[quote=ProfessorPubes]Wow -__- a BM with FJ. This game is becoming more and more crap. Might aswell make all the classes the dam same.[/quote]
they are all prity much the same already. Just enjoy the little things.
[quote=Synco].....Warriors and Buccaneers don't need Flash Jump because they are "MELEE" classes which means they are designed to be in the middle of mobbings. Bowmasters/Marksmen are a long range class which means they are not meant to be in the middle of a mob so flash jump benefits them much greater then warriors. I'm pretty sure Flash Jump was not meant to be a traveling skill. Plus Warriors/Buccaneers have the HP to support being in the middle of a huge mob while Bowmasters/marksmen don't. Coming from a guy about to make a UA Warrior, we do NOT need Flash jump.[/quote]
You do realize that arans/dawn warriors get mobile skills right...?
[quote=Dcrulez123]bowman with fj and skill like shoul driver im making bm now[/quote]
The skill you are referring to is most likely Arrow Rain, which has been a skill for rangers forever. The only difference is that the animation gets changed up a lot and gets slowing in chaos.
[quote=DeadlyJ231]So are buccaneers >.> Besides Archers need it. For so long they would have to run away from mobs just to attack now they can just go up to them and kill plus travel a little faster.[/quote]
They can easily prevent that just by not walking in a mob...
Warriors/buccaneers only have a rush skill and are slow as hell without monsters nearby to rush.
@ the guy with use the mount to go faster, its still slow and it takes time to get off ur mount and start attacking and with fj u dont have that problem.
[quote=upermelvin]And yet again warriors are left out with mobility skills....
Or do warriors get Fj as well?[/quote]
So are buccaneers >.> Besides Archers need it. For so long they would have to run away from mobs just to attack now they can just go up to them and kill plus travel a little faster.
L> corsair buffing =/
[quote=upermelvin]And yet again warriors are left out with mobility skills....
Or do warriors get Fj as well?[/quote]
Use a mount
And yet again warriors are left out with mobility skills....
Or do warriors get Fj as well?
lol BM with FJ.. thats.. ehh nexon what have u done...