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back then, there were many hacks i.e god mode, vac hack, auto click, etc. It took 1-2 years just to get 3rd job, and i remember that you had to give people your account just to get a zakum helmet. People fought to join party quests, sold tracks, and sold overall armor for dex 10%s at kerning city. Gobbies were the ideal training place, and people actually played omok and the card game. Ofc the maplestory now seems better, but the socializing has gotten worse. My buddy list was full by the time I got to lvl 70, and just doing 1-2k dmg was good enough.

I love those old events when GM's would spawn tons of high leveled mobs and bosses and EVERYONE died xD

I started at like v.37 i think, and I think you are right. There are a lot of new things that make it different (for better or worse (mist better)) from when it first started. You are also correct that it was being new that made it seem more fun. The only think I really miss was the community. Everyone (most) just played leisurely, making friends, hanging, and helping newer players just for the heck of it. Now it is all about mesos, godly equips, and levels. If there was one thing I would keep from old MS, it would be that.

The only thing that was better about old Maple was that there were way more nicer people. Now most people are just d0uches.

About a year back, I trained with my good buddy the Jr.newties and a painful 8% per hour. After many grueling hours I had finally achieved fourth job!
However, my previous time investments became virtually worthless due the the fact that I can easily stroll into LHC and indulge in a 100%/hour.

Finally someone speaks the truth! TBH i wasn't a beta player BUT i did join Maplestory in March of 2008. If some 'beta players' think about what this guy is saying, Maplestory in the early days was kinda horrible XD

[quote=Omelet]The only things that I dislike now is:
1. Hackers actually mess with the economy (lol 250k PoT?)
2. D/C Hacks are everywhere
3. PQs aren't used anymore.[/quote]

This person has it right, pre-bb i hit 70 on one character, now i have about 10 that are 100+. I also have become a more secluded trainer, avoiding other maplers, i train in less populated area's, my buddy list is basically empty now it was full. Not saying that it has become a more personal less social thing its just that nowadays you don't make friends at PQ's anyone remember having a track list, i had 4 pages full of names to test. I do like the new things being implemented though, the new crafting system suits how i like to play, i like getting my own items and not conforming to giving the hackers my money. I missed many of the event's that people are crying over, VPQ. From what i've gathered VPQ wasn't that good, more people have said that the agent event was the best event we have had.

Ehh, I dunno... Having more features hasn't necessarily worked out for my affection of the game. PQs and quests are useless and those are how I spent a lot of my time back in the day; it's way harder to keep up to others in terms of equips and stuff; and the new layout for Victoria Island pisses me off. The three things that are better now are the exuberant options in the CS/MTS now, the fact that there are more players around, and leveling isn't soul-stealing.

Well, that's just your opinion. I actually liked Maplestory way back when.
I just enjoyed the fact that people who had NX didn't have a HUGE advantage in the game, and also that not everyone was so obsessed with damage.
But yeah, that's just my opinion. I understand many people think differently.

TOTAL WIN MAN

I HATeD WHEN WE SPAMMED POWER STRIKE OVER AND OVER AGAIN

So people who buy nx to be overpowered = Pro? Map crashing = better?

No, pan lids were pros and no one ever heard of map crashing.

The game as an action/rpg game got better, a social game on the other hand..

I gotta agree with the TS. Maple was sooo bad back in the day. The only reason it was fun was because I was discovering something new in the game every single day. If maple had stayed the same for the past 4 years, I would have quit AGES ago.

No, just no.
No pqs, btw, this game is called a MMORPG
If everyone is just gonna grind by themselves, i dont see why it needs to be a mmo
Its opinion boy, and no it hasnt.
Way more exploiters, hackers, and idiots

This whole thread and of some people what they say...
Is just a W-I-N.
Flame me if im wrong >_>

@Pichu6125:
Type: Non-existing part of Nexon Corporation
Thanks for the link?

@ All the crud heads that say ms was better in the old days: Life is the future not the past.

only thing that was better was LPQ, minus the last stage... too easy is too easy

LOL im actually from beta and i concur 80% with this. the other 20% is a no because beta actually did have some good things in it which made mapling much more fun. if you dont believe Im from beta look at my medals.

i dont know, old maplestory was pretty cool. before, we were all chill, but now all we do is grind, grind grind.. and merch merch merch.. i dont know.. it certainly better for leveling up now, well i really dont know witch is better, old or new. . ? sorry i have bad grammar lol xD

probably jealous that your not an orginial?
i mean back than it was wayyyy harder to level and we were threathing people with high levels ie:i threaten people with a level 60 cleric lls
now it just plan out easy to level....

[quote=markalex]the game wasnt better back then, but the people certainly were. if we though people were greedy before, look at the game now. we actually use terms like "merching" and whatnot.[/quote]

This x1000.

[quote=l0ccsta2o9]lol dont tell me what to get over and get back to reality i can talk about it if i want to its only my opinion and my opinion is for you to get off my back

@applesnacks: omg really they cost nx oh my gosh! i never knew that omg!"oh my gosh cars cost money now since when?" thats how stupid u sound lmao[/quote]

OHMYGOSH, Then it wasnt an event like you said -FACEDESK-

[quote=Pichu6125]NONE of you have proof you're from the beta unless you have the Mark of Beta. And none of you do so you're not from the beta.[/quote]
I didn't play Beta so I don't have one. :< However I have been around since the First Anniversary Event and will be glad to take a "quiz" if needed to prove that I played that long ago. Don't ask trivial questions such as "how godly was xyz" because I didn't pay attention to godliness.

I would show my quest log as well but alas my oldest character that I still have is my Gunslinger which was made after Pirates were released.

[quote=lolorific]The reason maple was better when it started was
1. Pqs populated.
2. A Much more balenced game with not many OP'd classes
3. A more stable, basic economy.
4. A much more challenging game
5. SOOOO MUCH FEWER HACKORS
6. Better customer support
7. LESS LAGG (less of a population)

Just because there is more CONTENT does NOT mean a better game. I really do enjoy the new crafting system tho ;D[/quote]
[b]1)[/b] Sure PQs were populated because they were the most reliable to level 21-30 and 35-50 and 51-70 (if you did glitch/rush Orbis PQ). However, that came with a trade-off. I can recall as a 13-year old waking up at 5 AM on my Cleric just to hope to get in to at least [b]one[/b] LudiPQ so that I would hopefully at least finish it. Because, we all know how amazing Stage 4, 6, and 8 were.
[b]2)[/b] DEXless Sins, first-job Mages. That should contradict that. First job Mages had the easiest first job because of their built in Mastery and the natural strength of Magic Claw. Sins in general had an easy job as well since Lucky 7 has a built in Mastery as well. And then the endless Q-Q-storm about DEXless Sins being too strong is akin to how much rage at pre-Chaos Mechs. Oh and Dragon Knights basically being better than just about every third job Warrior since they got better skills. And on top of that, the sheer underpoweredness of Archers and Bandits.
[b]3)[/b] Economy was stable because it was as easy to just insert your way into it. Now you can buy 10 dollars of NX Cards and get a 10 attack WG and get yourself an easy 200+m. Back then there were significantly less ways to easily make money aside from training at like Red Drakes forever hoping a pair of Steely would drop.
[b]4)[/b] MapleStory was never challenging. Pressing your attack buttons for an hour and then level? What part of pressing an attack button is hard?
[b]5)[/b] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH no. [b]Never in any part of MapleStory has there magically been no hackers. If anything, there are fewer hackers than the time when "Wizet was in charge."[/b]
[b]6)[/b] I never had to file a ticket so I don't really know but that's typical of starting games, having excellent customer support and then it kind of just dies off.
[b]7)[/b] Games naturally either grow because they are good or die because they're bad.

Got lazy towards the end because I got bored of having to deal with this.
Overall on your last point: If MapleStory stayed the same as it did in 2006/2007 (as in Zombie grind, deep Aqua Road grind, deep Ludibrium grind, third job only, etc.) then the game would die significantly faster. We can all pretend that we'd still be around to play it because it was lolomgsofun but really, half of everyone's love of RetroStory comes from the fact that most of us were young. I was 12 when I start MapleStory and I have some great memories of when it was around with some of my closest friends, but at no point would I wish for it to change back.

[quote=l0ccsta2o9]and also one more thing back then was HELLA better events, i mean come on back then they actually had 2x cards that lasted for week days only or every weekend for 30 days or 7 days how is that not good f3, just overall the events were better and overall in most people's opinions[/quote]

Those 2x cards costed NX.

Old MS was horrible in some ways, and so as new MS.

I only agree with TS about 'being new/noob' but that's not the only point; people were much more nicer than right now. All people want now is reaching higher level and upgrading for godly damage, I rather level slower and doing PQ + quests, it's way more fun.

[quote=ItzPat]7) Get a better computer or go to an emptier world cause that's pretty much your fault.

I'm sorry, WAT?
I've seen a performance decrease in a 9800GTX+ over the years, since it was released. So that'd be 2008. Considering I had a 8600GS before that, but anyways. Maple HAS gotten harder to run. My old business laptop was running a 7000mForce. It can't even run gMS now.

3)Hmm, it sure was a good economy, I mean due to the fact that 99% of your money went to pots and stuff, (pre nlc) and only 1% was spent on the economy, then sure it was a pretty good economy (Exaggerated numbers but you get the point)

If you learned how to manage your money, you could easily understand the economy. Laid's godly black scarab anyone?

4) It still is a challenging game

False. 1-50 takes like.. 8hours? Or less?

1)Yes populated pq was AWESOME, waiting 5 hours to pq in LPQ once was simply AMAZING. /sarcasm

Never waited 5 hours in my life for LPQ. And I've been around since it's been released?

God all these biased stances make me want to kick puppies.
Things I haven't touched on are things I agree with to an extent. Jesus.[/quote]

7) Im running as fine as I did 5 years ago with a 7 year old computer, so Idk but you should check that out

3) Your 10m spear (Which would have gotten you a pretty good spear back then) was worth about 2 days of training pots. Idk about you but the outrageous cost of pots (which you spent majority of your money on)made the economy what you would call "stable" because of how little money people had back then. If you gave a good thought about it, the high inflation is a good thing because things bought in NPC's are relatively cheaper now than back then. (WHICH IS GOOD)

4)Still challenging just higher expectations. It would be stupid for not just maple but for ANYTHING to keep the same expectations with age.

1)Exaggeration. Clearly I have to take time time to write "EXAGGERATION" for you to get that. Anyways, Pqs were TOO populated back then, especially in Scania, where your ONLY chances of PQing was being a fast/lucky clicker, or AC.

Its probably just the nostalgia factor if anything, same how we say our cartoons are better than the ones from now, and most people back then played more for the social aspect of the game more than anything else.

I want my slime tree back.

[quote=FalseLove]u know ur lucky,if all the old ms players that quit came back
ur ass wud be dcing to hell right now[/quote]

For what reason exactly?

I like the new MS better.

[quote=Pichu6125]NONE of you have proof you're from the beta unless you have the Mark of Beta. And none of you do so you're not from the beta.[/quote]

Uhm, my old account got hacked. So you can take my word, or not. I don't care much, doesn't make you different if your from beta or not.

I like the old log in screen

I think that Maple Story has improved on some things, but a part of me would like to see PQs crowded as before and I don't like so much that the classes today are much easier than the old ...
Just my opinion :x

[quote=Pichu6125]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexon_Korea_Corporation[/quote]

It says that their both part of Nexon.

The only thing better about old ms was the community
Thats it

NONE of you have proof you're from the beta unless you have the Mark of Beta. And none of you do so you're not from the beta.

[quote=Liqs]Well, most (if not all) online games have to change eventually in order to keep attracting new players, and for the company to make money. Due to the competition of other online games the company must think of "better" changes to keep up. During the "old days" of MS it took much longer to level, but there were way more people doing party quests instead of just grinding. Big Bang made it hella easier to level to 200, and I sort of wish they'd make it a tad bit harder. Nowadays reaching level 200 isn't that big of an accomplishment as it was back years ago. Also, with hackers & KSers... even if there were less in the old days the world of online gamers is increasing. More players = more KSers, and as more years go by we'll have even more hackers as our knowledge of programming increases. o_o

HI JACKKK[/quote]

Hi
OT: Yea maple is better now.

[quote=lolorific]The reason maple was better when it started was
1. Pqs populated.
2. A Much more balenced game with not many OP'd classes
3. A more stable, basic economy.
4. A much more challenging game
5. SOOOO MUCH FEWER HACKORS
6. Better customer support
7. LESS LAGG (less of a population)

Just because there is more CONTENT does NOT mean a better game. I really do enjoy the new crafting system tho ;D[/quote]

1)Yes populated pq was AWESOME, waiting 5 hours to pq in LPQ once was simply AMAZING. /sarcasm
2)Balanced? LolDks.
3)Hmm, it sure was a good economy, I mean due to the fact that 99% of your money went to pots and stuff, (pre nlc) and only 1% was spent on the economy, then sure it was a pretty good economy (Exaggerated numbers but you get the point)
4) It still is a challenging game
5) Maple was infested with hackers, more or the same as now. (Tubis,Demi,Vac,etc)
6) It sucked back then, still sucks equally now. Except GMs appear more often, GMs were so rare to see back then that people starting claiming that Gms werent real.
7) Get a better computer or go to an emptier world cause that's pretty much your fault.

The only thing I miss was PQing, and Nexon has actually revamped that already in Archer Jump. The impact that hackers have on the Maple economy is pretty disappointing too, though overall, I like this MS better. (I started when Ludi came out).

no so many hackers, servers overpopulated, unstable economy, easy to understand for new players, less glitches in the game......

true

If from beta and I like this game. It got better some ways, worse others but, it's still a great game

[quote=MrTouchnGo]Wizet=Nexon , Nexon=Wizet.
I hate it when people claim that they're separate to say that they've been playing for a long time >_>[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexon_Korea_Corporation

The only things that I dislike now is:
1. Hackers actually mess with the economy (lol 250k PoT?)
2. D/C Hacks are everywhere
3. PQs aren't used anymore.

Well, most (if not all) online games have to change eventually in order to keep attracting new players, and for the company to make money. Due to the competition of other online games the company must think of "better" changes to keep up. During the "old days" of MS it took much longer to level, but there were way more people doing party quests instead of just grinding. Big Bang made it hella easier to level to 200, and I sort of wish they'd make it a tad bit harder. Nowadays reaching level 200 isn't that big of an accomplishment as it was back years ago. Also, with hackers & KSers... even if there were less in the old days the world of online gamers is increasing. More players = more KSers, and as more years go by we'll have even more hackers as our knowledge of programming increases. Oh, and with the economy being unbalanced... the game has been adding changes for 6 years now? Only time can bring the economy to a balance. o_o

HI JACKKK

[quote=GreenKilla]I think Nexon has changed for the worst...I liked when Wizet was in control and the events were actually fun[/quote]

Wizet was [b]WAY WORSE THE NEXON. NEXON SAVED WIZET"S ASS.[/b]

I'll elaborate.
See Wizet said they'll make the game difficulty by not adding things to help you.
No scrolls
No CS
No Family rep
All equips gave same stats
[b]No events[/b]
By the way
They had a lot of hackers running around. Due to that wizet was losing money. But nexon came and bought it. And saved them.

[quote=Sahkata]If you played back then you would realize Wizet was a much better company in control of Maplestory. On top of that PQ's were actually I don't know, FUN. This game got EASIER, not more fun. It got more complicated, it got damage hungry, it got money hungry. Yes there are a lot of new exciting features that QUICKLY die out. Congratulations you level faster, so in a sense that makes it more fun. However, the social aspect and cash shop of maplestory took a dump. Old maplestory has pros and cons, just like new maplestory.[/quote]

Wizet=Nexon
Nexon was there from the start.

"If you actually thought about it, you would realize that it is not Maplestory that was better, but the fact that you were new to it was what made it better."

I wasn't new to Maple the 3rd year I played it, yet I still liked it. Your point is moot.

Only after the introduction of % equips and BB did I start to not actually enjoy the game anymore. New maple is far too money-necessary to be even average now.

How MS is now, there are only two differences between GMS and a pizza slice:
1. The damage cap
2. Rebirths

Add those in and you have a pizza slice that you pay to use >_>