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[quote=Arcana27961]@scrumble Actually, Poison Mist affects monsters that are higher leveled than you, it's just gonna be hard to kill them off if you can manage to get their HP down to 1. [/quote]

Oh, that's pretty awesome. I heard that even Mist was accuracy dependant, I thought it was strange, but there was no way for me to check it since I already was above level 170 ever since the Big Bang patch occured. ;P In that case, decently funded FP's could Mist Skelegons or other monsters that are easily killed, and then a higher level can finish them off. Maybe Power leveling hasn't died out yet.
Just figured that this could work great for level 12x-13x AM's, if they max out Mist Eruption, their Mist DoT almost gets trippled, so then their Mist will be very effective at higher leveled monsters... ;o Maybe this could mean something like, getting a bit of feel of the old training method for FP's.

@scrumble Actually, Poison Mist affects monsters that are higher leveled than you, it's just gonna be hard to kill them off if you can manage to get their HP down to 1.

[quote=atimu1]It was probably the epicest thing that ever happened. I found it that getting to 70 was hard as hell, took me months. But 77-120 only took a few days of 4x exping XD
getting from 3rd to 4th job was faster then getting from 1st to 2nd job (i started in 2007, back when it actually meant something to be lv30+). SO yea, 3rd job/skele training was something you would have to have been completely insane to have let go by. And really, with the whole spamming of meteor in 4th job, F/Ps were probably the flyest class evaarrr XD[/quote]

Lol, the flyest class evaarrr? xD
Yeah, it was possible to level really fast. Some friend of mine leveled up his little sister from level 75-ish to level 120 in no time. Probably a week. He gave her 2x EXP cards, let her mist at Skelegons and he just used Genesis. The girl got like, 200% per hour on 2x. Sometimes she was even on 4x, thanks to an event or the REP from family. x) It's kinda fun to power level someone like that, it is really something unique. Now we could do the same, but I doubt Poison Mist works on monsters that are a much higher level than your own.

It was probably the epicest thing that ever happened. I found it that getting to 70 was hard as hell, took me months. But 77-120 only took a few days of 4x exping XD
getting from 3rd to 4th job was faster then getting from 1st to 2nd job (i started in 2007, back when it actually meant something to be lv30+). SO yea, 3rd job/skele training was something you would have to have been completely insane to have let go by. And really, with the whole spamming of meteor in 4th job, F/Ps were probably the flyest class evaarrr XD

[quote=buckylastard]@scrumble You must either be very smart or very stupid to be on basil all day during your exam period

Jump patch: Mist gets 400% DoT *drools*[/quote]

Mist DoT with 400% is awesome. And it can even explode.. xD It'll be one of the most fun skill(s). Even though Poison Mist already was.
Btw, the reason why I was online 'all day' was because I leave my basil on when Im on my computer. ;P So I just check to see if anyone replied to me or such. xD
Also, when Im in a fun conversation on basil, I have a lot more motivation to see if someone replied. Today's subject was Biology, it wasnt tough so I expect a pretty good mark.

[quote=Arcana27961]I'm actually having fun with the walls of text. For me, it shows why the older F/Ps have such pride in this class. Even though it's an online game, it's nice to hear personal stories about an aspect of the game that I didn't enjoy. The only problem is that I'm disappointed that I didn't take advantage of a great training tool while it existed. [/quote]

Glad to hear and its such a shame that you didnt use Mist that much when you had it. But, just go and try to mist a map at skelegons or Grim Phantom Watches or anything. Dont try to die, even I, once in a while, go back to these maps just to Mist and get the feel back again.

[quote=MyNameTim]This thread is filled with to many words.
To answer your question, training was easier with poison spells Pre-BB.

The guy above me is a dork.[/quote]
I'm actually having fun with the walls of text. For me, it shows why the older F/Ps have such pride in this class. Even though it's an online game, it's nice to hear personal stories about an aspect of the game that I didn't enjoy. The only problem is that I'm disappointed that I didn't take advantage of a great training tool while it existed.

@scrumble You must either be very smart or very stupid to be on basil all day during your exam period

Jump patch: Mist gets 400% DoT *drools*

[quote=MyNameTim]This thread is filled with to many words.
To answer your question, training was easier with poison spells Pre-BB.

The guy above me is a dork.[/quote]

What part of me is dorkish? D:
And, yes, we already answered the question, but he also wanted to know what it was like, hence the big wall o' old text coming from multiple experienced players.

PS. Mist -is- fun! Especially exploding it....I WANT JUMP PATCH. D:

[quote=buckylastard]@scrumble Yep, I'm a fellow dutchman And from the same server too. We should buddy

Anyways, I remember buying the evil wing for 75mil. Which was an astronomical high price back then. Well, for me at least. And I remember Matt (Flenaris) too. He was actually one of the f/p wiz I trained with at grupins and borrowed my ew a few times too. But after 8x/9x, I kinda lost motivation to train and took a break. Mainly because I maxed explo and comp first and training became very slow. And when I came back, he was all high lvled and famous lol.[/quote]

Haha, awesome! Yes we should buddy each other soon, but I'm in my Final Exams so its hard for me to find time to log in, let alone if my computer keeps on effing up. I have to format it, which I'll do after the Exams are over, and then I'll play to get to 180. >=)

[quote=peanutfishy]Why does everyone respond with huge walls of texts?
tl,dr verson pl0x.[/quote]

Too lazy to make short version

@scrumble Yep, I'm a fellow dutchman And from the same server too. We should buddy

Anyways, I remember buying the evil wing for 75mil. Which was an astronomical high price back then. Well, for me at least. And I remember Matt (Flenaris) too. He was actually one of the f/p wiz I trained with at grupins and borrowed my ew a few times too. But after 8x/9x, I kinda lost motivation to train and took a break. Mainly because I maxed explo and comp first and training became very slow. And when I came back, he was all high lvled and famous lol.

[quote=buckylastard]@scrumble Maybe not highest. I'm from europe too =D

I remember back in the old days. F/P were never popular, so we tend to stick together. In the old days, when I was a 5x f/p wiz (it was considered quite high lolz) lvling was a real pain. 1 hitting with firearrow, while all other jobs got mobskills (except for sins, but they were fast and very strong back then already). I grouped with 3 other f/p wizards and partied at grupins for weeks. All 4 of us in the same map was lots of fun. The exp was around 5-10% an hour, which was quite decent. As training progresses and I finally reach late lvl 6x/70 and got my evil wing. (Back in the days everyone were using cromi's. And when you got an ew, you were the man lol). I was a happy man and continued training at jr. yeti's. 1 hitting them was so much fun and the best exp a f/p can get. The damage was actually quite high compared to other jobs, mainly because 3rd job wasn't out yet. Then I moved on to 1 hitting pangs for less than 5% an hour and finally to zombies to compete with KSing sins. Ah, the Ks wars at zombie map were so much fun.

And then 3rd job came out along with ludi. Everyone got excited and was drooling on how "cool" explosion was. F/P mages finally got a mob skill~! So every f/p went maxing explosion. Unfortunately, the skill was just as strong as fire arrow and much much slower. But we didn't knew better. So the f/p's went lvling with their hot mob skill at DGP. We could hit multiple platforms (wow~!). As we progressed to stronger monsters and got higher lvled, we finally arrived at grims, the new hot map where all the ks wars took place. Even though grims were weak to fire and f/p were considered to be quite strong, explosion was just too slow to keep up with the other classes. And explosion mages would lose to ksing hermits and dk's. Then some f/p started to use mist and it totally turned the grims map upside down. F/P became the rulers and no1 would even bother to ks us. However, people didn't want to party us either, because a misting mage would get all the exp. And so we became loners. When 4th job came out, it didn't help either. With 4th job, we became meteor mages. This has made our class live in solitude even more. The f/p class was doomed to be loners. It is a way of (maple)life we didn't choose, but were forced to take.[/quote]

Do note that I said 'one of the' not the highest. ;P Besides, I said that it was from my Country. So unless you live in the Netherlands, I haven't seen any of my brethren being the same nationality as me. (and being at least level 160.. :o)

I feel you. ;P Evil Wings were totally thé weapon for every Mage. xD It was also one of the first weapons, besides from Thorns, that you couldnt buy in a store, so that made it even more desireable... ;D

I prevented training at Grims though, because my Wallet didnt allow me to, which is a shame.. ;P But whenever I had 10m+ I went back there.
I remember that Flenaris was my whole drive for becoming and training my FP Mage, when I was a level 4x FP, I remember visiting him at Grims when he was back in his 11x. x) Too bad he quitted now, but he enjoyed maple in its best days.

I didnt level quite as fast as you did though, and you probably started a bit earlier than me as well, so by the time I was 11x, 4th job came out. D:
Too bad they dont let the versions of maple be in a certain server, for example, Pre-BB server(s), Post-BB server(s) and whatnot. ;P If we want to relive the old days, we'd have to make an account in any other Maple Version. xD

@scrumble Maybe not highest. I'm from europe too =D

I remember back in the old days. F/P were never popular, so we tend to stick together. In the old days, when I was a 5x f/p wiz (it was considered quite high lolz) lvling was a real pain. 1 hitting with firearrow, while all other jobs got mobskills (except for sins, but they were fast and very strong back then already). I grouped with 3 other f/p wizards and partied at grupins for weeks. All 4 of us in the same map was lots of fun. The exp was around 5-10% an hour, which was quite decent. As training progresses and I finally reach late lvl 6x/70 and got my evil wing. (Back in the days everyone were using cromi's. And when you got an ew, you were the man lol). I was a happy man and continued training at jr. yeti's. 1 hitting them was so much fun and the best exp a f/p can get. The damage was actually quite high compared to other jobs, mainly because 3rd job wasn't out yet. Then I moved on to 1 hitting pangs for less than 5% an hour and finally to zombies to compete with KSing sins. Ah, the Ks wars at zombie map were so much fun.

And then 3rd job came out along with ludi. Everyone got excited and was drooling on how "cool" explosion was. F/P mages finally got a mob skill~! So every f/p went maxing explosion. Unfortunately, the skill was just as strong as fire arrow and much much slower. But we didn't knew better. So the f/p's went lvling with their hot mob skill at DGP. We could hit multiple platforms (wow~!). As we progressed to stronger monsters and got higher lvled, we finally arrived at grims, the new hot map where all the ks wars took place. Even though grims were weak to fire and f/p were considered to be quite strong, explosion was just too slow to keep up with the other classes. And explosion mages would lose to ksing hermits and dk's. Then some f/p started to use mist and it totally turned the grims map upside down. F/P became the rulers and no1 would even bother to ks us. However, people didn't want to party us either, because a misting mage would get all the exp. And so we became loners. When 4th job came out, it didn't help either. With 4th job, we became meteor mages. This has made our class live in solitude even more. The f/p class was doomed to be loners. It is a way of (maple)life we didn't choose, but were forced to take.

[quote=Arcana27961]Well, think of it this way: We're currently at the "awkward teenage years" as F/Ps. Things are different and, in many ways, worse; however, we'll find a new way of using our poison skills post-Jump. I can honestly say that I don't want to go back to the old ways (at least not anymore).

@taotapp Thanks for the in-depth info. It sounds like it was a billion times better than training with Fire Arrow and Explosion. [/quote]

It was, like the other guy said, you could wear anything you wanted. I mostly used Whips of some sort to increase my walking speed. Duo Channeling was pretty easy at the small Skele . Map. ;O But, most of the times, I'd meet other FP's who would also duo the same channels as me. ;P (like, I tried to duo channels 6 and 7, but then someone else tried to duo 7 and 8.) You'd meet a lot of other FP's so it was fun to socialize while training, but the EXP kinda sucked then, so it was off to find another channel once that had happened.
I trained a lot with friends at Death Teddies, We'd both circle the whole map, I'd mist, and then he'd be at the other side of my position on the map, where he'd finish all the monsters. This worked so well because the map was so big, it took quite a while to get through it. But in this way we both got pretty good EXP, it was even faster than just Solo training.
At squids was a bit hard for me, because nobody wanted a FP in a party. They all said that Mist lags them, whereas they just dont like people leeching them if it doesnt increase EXP. x) But then I met a 9x Hermit, who I later buddied, who loved to train with mist and told me how much faster it actually was. xD

Indeed, they were good times. I still have this screenshot of me being a level 71 FP, just having Poison Mist made me all motivated and I tried to have a lot of fun. :O
I saw this AFK guy who's IGN was called 'BLEEEHX' so I thought I'd honour his name and put a Mist on it. Oh, all the fun things you could do back then with mist.^^
To be honest, right now it -can- be more fun if you have a high Attack Range. I mean, Doing 33k+ damage per second on a snail? That can be fun in a way.
Also using Slow on them to let them wriggle to their deaths was a fun thing to do for me. x) Do not forget Misting the FM and HHG.

once again, im ranting on and on, just reminiscing about the times when Poison Mist was fun, but to be honest, I still think its fun and which is why I can still be motivated to screw around on my FP. The only few Goals I have left is to level some more to at least hit 180 and get an Attack Range of 30k. Once I've Achieved that, I'll be a proud FP.
(I already am Proud to be FP and to be honest, I happen to be one of the highest ranking/strongest FP's of my Country, but this isn't really hard since there aren't too many FP's around nowadays, let alone people from Europe who happen to be FP's. I still am Glad that I got this far though. =) )

[quote=Khar]40 to 5x was awesome by lvl 47~ i was ksing Dbs that tried to ks me at jesters O.o (i want it back D[/quote]

Well, think of it this way: We're currently at the "awkward teenage years" as F/Ps. Things are different and, in many ways, worse; however, we'll find a new way of using our poison skills post-Jump. I can honestly say that I don't want to go back to the old ways (at least not anymore).

@taotapp Thanks for the in-depth info. It sounds like it was a billion times better than training with Fire Arrow and Explosion.

I did the same thing as you
although when i did attempt to train with poison mist at skeles i'd die by the time i'd gain 5% cause i fail like that

Oh.
My.
God.

It was fantastic, man. Poison's damage was based entirely around the monster's HP, rather than your attack range, and it would [i]always[/i] get the monsters down to 1 HP (when maxed) in 40 seconds. Always. The moment that monster was poisoned, assuming you didn't hit it with fire demon or something like that, it was as good as "dead". Dead in the sense that it'll have 1 HP left when you return to it, obviously. Not literally dead. But I digress. Even if the monster walked out of the mist, it stayed poisoned for 40 seconds. You never had to worry about anything after it started glowing green.

But 40 seconds is a lot of time. Plenty of time, in fact, to mist [i]another[/i] channel while the first channel finished itself off. So we did. We'd mist multiple other channels. Some would mist two at a time. Others would go for three. Certain daring individuals would try [i]entire rows[/i] of channels on less busy nights. I remember one time, just for giggles, I misted every single skelegons channel. No one was there, because it wasn't the popular skelegons map. Each channel was empty, so I misted all 19 of them. Fun times.

Oh! And since mist's damage wasn't dependent on your attack range, you could wear [i]any random-ass equips you wanted[/i] and still get the job done. You could dress like a [i]clown[/i], or even completely naked; mist didn't care. It did the same damage regardless. You could have been poor, or rich. Mist was the great equalizer. Since equips really didn't matter, and mobility while misting was pretty important, lots of people wore speed/jump equips while misting -- and man, did that make training more fun. These days, though, you have to wear all that clunky gear to beef up your attack stat so mist can do enough damage in the lousy ten seconds it gets to bring a monster down to 1 HP. In that sense, Big Bang destroyed mist training. Ruined it as I once knew it, anyway. It's a travesty~

edit: Oh, snap. And you could use poison breath at death teddies in your 50s and 60s, [i]like a boss.[/i] I remember defending a death teddy map against [i]third job hermits[/i] as a [i]second job wizard.[/i] They left, utterly humiliated. MAN, times were good.

[quote=finalglory01]one word.

Skeles. [/quote]

Blasphemy! The dot is in the wrong place!

Wow, sounds awesome. I just remembered that I tried Mist training when BB was about to hit. I didn't do so well and ended up wasting a lot of pots and dying a couple of times. I probably didn't do so well because I had just lost interest in MS and was considering quitting at the time. I really wish I had used my poison skills to their fullest, but oh well. I'm definitely going to take advantage of Big Bang at LHC after Chaos hits.

The time I trained I used Poison Breath, the only decent training place for level 65+ was at Death Teddies and Grim Phantom Watches.... Which wasn't really awesome.
I did something like 5-10% an hour there and I died too much to not make it fun to remember... Level 90 was at Squids, finally and level 105 was Sharks for me, since I finally had Seal at a decent level. By the time 4th job came, I painstakingly made it to level 110, only to grind it another 18 levels with mist at Skelegons because of a lack of funds. xD
I do enjoyed it though, because that's why I kept on grinding. ;P
To be honest, I almost always trained about 5-10% starting from level 40 to 130. xD After that I was able to train with Meteor Shower which finally made me pass the 15% an hour 'mark'. So, before the maps of Jesters and stuff came out, it was actually pretty much of a pain to level decently... But as I said, I enjoyed it. (Also gives a sense of achieving something rather than just...leveling to 120.)

/ranting

It was awesome.

It was epic D: I remember hitting the damage cap at level 75 using poison mist on some mirror thingy at the Haunted House. It wasn't very useful for that but it was still cool seeing the number xD
If we still had % poison we would so own at lhc @.@

Ah, % Poison. I trained at jesters from 50-68. The only reason I stopped at 68 was bb. I never got to enjoy mist as % damage, however, the way it is now is very similar, at least with mist.

It was rather epic. 40-70 took a matter of hours. 70-120 took maybe a few days. We were the fastest levelling class by a large margin.

Let's just say it made getting to 4th job extremely easy.