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Ranger Papulatus Solo

With Big Bang on the way, I want to have a huge (at least for me) accomplishment to be able to look back to in the Old(ish) Maple. That, and I'm just looking for something to do until BB happens. So... I'm going to try to solo Pap on my 108 Ranger. Why, you ask? Because I've ALWAYS wanted to solo Pap but I never got a character to a high enough level. And solo'ing on a level 108 character would be cool in my opinion.

I'm definitly not godly by any means. Range is normally 1738 ~ 3076 with my 6% all stat earrings. I'm trying to get some 6%+ dex Rex earrings so I can have that extra 10% HP boost (Which would bring my HP up to ~3.9k) without losing much power. Without any defensive buffs/potions, I have 487 Weapon Def and 246 Magic Def, so I should be able to take a hit from an un-buffed bottom bomb with Rex earrings. I've got a couple Onyx Apples and some Witch Stews that I'm going to use to speed it up since I know it's gonna take a while. (Yay, damage reduction?)

Wish me luck.

December 2, 2010

34 Comments • Newest first

DarkAstrum

Yeah 3am est is 24 hours after I last went in. xD
@ImALowStr: Hawk might make the bombs use attack buff up. Which is very bad. o.o; Then I have 0% chance of surviving a bomb blast.

Reply December 5, 2010
DarkAstrum

UPDATE:
Attempt one: Failed. Pap hit me then summoned a bomb on me which promptly blew up in my face without enough time to pot up. I thought the map was full with bombs, but it actually just kept summoning on top until it spawned the one that killed me.
Attempt two: Forgot Piece of Cracked dimension. Too anxious to take it on and forgot to get another from the NPC. -_-
Attempt three: Dunno, waiting till I can go back in, which will be approximatly 3am est. >_>

Reply December 4, 2010 - edited
ramin8r

[quote=patrickmmm12]y? who cares just wait until bb[/quote]

can you even read? he wants a memory from old maple...

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
ttrt112333

You got this man

Ahh pap, made me feel so awesome on my first solo <3

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
BlazeLeo

[quote=DarkAstrum]@pigflys: You can do it Just takes patience and enough HP to take a hit if needed.
@blazeleo: Hopefully, it wont take me that many tries. I'm going into this pretty confident though. (Or maybe it's a touch of cĀ­ockiness.. I can't tell.)
@Ch40sM4g3: Good luck to you as well. ^_^
@tatufiuz: I would have done it by now if it weren't for the Server Maintenece going on. And the fact that I can't go in due to my forgetfulness and misunderstanding of the limitations to entering to the Inner Clocktower. >_< I probably won't be able to pin ol' Pap anyway. My control is pretty sloppy at times, but I'm pretty sure that not being able to pin won't be a big deal.
@evilslasher: I think you're right. The 2nd body has 200 less defense than the 1st body, so pinning that sucker should be much easier.
And Pianus sounds easy, from what you guys are saying, as long as I can avoid the Blood booms and him a-firin' his lazorz at me. o.o[/quote]

while you do that i'll get my friend to duo zak with me again :]
good luck to the both of us!

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
Starbomba

[quote=DarkAstrum]I did a few test runs with Fraps to determine the lag and whatnot, saw how huge the file ended up being.. That's why I decided not to record the whole run. That and so I don't end up dying from lag. Also: How hard is Pianus? I was considering solo'ing that too if I can. o.o[/quote]
yea, when i did a 30-min pap solo (you'll see the reason soon why i took so long when i post the video ) i ended with some hugeass 18 GB file, split in 5 parts. but it didn't lag me too much, and the comp where i boss isn't that pro (core 2 duo 2.13, 1 GB ram, nvidia 9400gt, win XP, it has like 3 years)

pianus is even easier since you don't need to worry about pinning or having it bump into you, but more complicated in a way. sometimes bombs will spawn in front of you, or over you, so MB can play a dirty trick. bombs deal 8-10k damage if you hit them with almost anything other than strafe at your level, so watch before you shoot. also, left pianus isn't as deadly as right. for right pianus, you need to have godly evasion skills, or 4.6k+ HP. right only demands 3.6-3.8k, but it dispels (right doesn't dispel unless you get to fight both left AND right, funnest fight IMHO )

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
DarkAstrum

@pigflys: You can do it Just takes patience and enough HP to take a hit if needed.
@blazeleo: Hopefully, it wont take me that many tries. I'm going into this pretty confident though. (Or maybe it's a touch of cĀ­ockiness.. I can't tell.)
@Ch40sM4g3: Good luck to you as well. ^_^
@tatufiuz: I would have done it by now if it weren't for the Server Maintenece going on. And the fact that I can't go in due to my forgetfulness and misunderstanding of the limitations to entering to the Inner Clocktower. >_< I probably won't be able to pin ol' Pap anyway. My control is pretty sloppy at times, but I'm pretty sure that not being able to pin won't be a big deal.
@evilslasher: I think you're right. The 2nd body has 200 less defense than the 1st body, so pinning that sucker should be much easier.
And Pianus sounds easy, from what you guys are saying, as long as I can avoid the Blood booms and him a-firin' his lazorz at me. o.o

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
SlovakHocky

Good luck. An old friend of mine leveled to 120 on her ranger by soloing papu. She ended up making getting to around 160 and then made a crossbowman. She then also soloed papu as a sniper to get to 120. This is all pre-potential, she quit quite awhile ago. I was just in the process of soloing my first papu on my WK but got cut off by the server check (level 111.) Figured it was worth a shot to try and finished, I got to about 20% left, and used no attack pots.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
mrhung

[quote=Starblitzkrieg]I've seen people get hit when ducking, so be careful.[/quote]

Nah if he's soloing he should be fine. The only time I've been killed when ducking under pap's 2nd form is if my Phoenix KBs it into me. -_-

@TS: Best of luck! Pap's pretty fun :]

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
jklhgfcm

I tried soloing Pap, I couldn't stand him dispelling and running into me simutaneously. I have solo'd Pap, took about an hour with a bunch of fatal slipups, but not a single person tried to KS me, and I kill the blood booms with Genesis anywho. It was very late at night though, and before potential as well.
Good luck, I hate that Dispel. It's unfair to mages.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
evilslasher

Just apple and strafe his face off. With apple, I think you should be able to pin 2nd body fine. Don't bother killing the top bombs, eventually there will be so many top bombs that pap can't summon anymore bottom bombs. If you need to clear them, just use arrow rain. You shouldn't need to duck or puppet often for 2nd body if you have an apple... and I wanted to solo pianus, but I can never find one that spawned, besides, I hate killing bosses that aren't in their own minidungeon-esque map (imagines DK coming in to cave and using roar to activate the bloody booms). I'd like to kill left pianus as a personal achievement and for a chance of SS 20 though. I might try.

GL with your pap solo

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
Tatufiuz

Stop debating and just go already, lol. I want to see it done, because I wanted to do it too When I did my first solo at 120, I probs had lower range and definately less hp than what you have now since it was like two years ago, pre potential crap and all this good stuff. It's not a matter of HP or damage ( for certain extent ). Just lrn2play and you can do it without pinning.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
Ch40sM4g3

I'll wish you luck because I'm also attempting the same thing you are.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
BlazeLeo

[quote=DarkAstrum]@Blazeleo: I have 487 Weapon Def, plus I'll be using Pain Relievers which add 30 Def or Witch Stew, when I'm not using an Onyx Apple, which adds 100. So that'll help a lot with the damage I'll be taking. I'm primarily guessing on the damage I'll be taking since I have a hard time with Maplestory's damage formulas. ~_~ And I definitly don't have 2b collateral for HB. I barely had enough for my Haste rental from an Alliance member.

@starbomba: I did a few test runs with Fraps to determine the lag and whatnot, saw how huge the file ended up being.. That's why I decided not to record the whole run. That and so I don't end up dying from lag. Also: How hard is Pianus? I was considering solo'ing that too if I can. o.o[/quote]

if you can't afford HB then GL (5 days x 2 times a day = 10 tries )
pianus hits 4k or something with the IMA FIRIN MAH LAZORRRR canon thing i think and 1/1s you a lot. try manon/griffey

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
Starblitzkrieg

I've seen people get hit when ducking, so be careful.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
bombinator

[quote=DarkAstrum]I have 487 Weapon Def, plus I'll be using Pain Relievers which add 30 Def or Witch Stew, when I'm not using an Onyx Apple, which adds 100. So that'll help a lot with the damage I'll be taking. I'm primarily guessing on the damage I'll be taking since I have a hard time with Maplestory's damage formulas. ~_~
Also: How hard is Pianus? I was considering solo'ing that too if I can. o.o[/quote]

If you can survive the legendary laser beam attack of doom, you can solo pianus. Otherwise, it's impossible as his laser attack is a full-screen attack and you can't dodge/duck to avoid it.

Also, you might want to consider getting 3.3k+ HP to tank pap's first body damage if you haven't. Taking the body damage is better than detonating the 3.8k - 4k bombs if you do face that situation. I personally take about 3.2k damage with approximately 270 defense, give or take a few dozen, but I'm a higher level than you so that may (or may not) affect my damage intake.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
DarkAstrum

@Blazeleo: I have 487 Weapon Def, plus I'll be using Pain Relievers which add 30 Def or Witch Stew, when I'm not using an Onyx Apple, which adds 100. So that'll help a lot with the damage I'll be taking. I'm primarily guessing on the damage I'll be taking since I have a hard time with Maplestory's damage formulas. ~_~ And I definitly don't have 2b collateral for HB. I barely had enough for my Haste rental from an Alliance member.

@starbomba: I did a few test runs with Fraps to determine the lag and whatnot, saw how huge the file ended up being.. That's why I decided not to record the whole run. That and so I don't end up dying from lag. Also: How hard is Pianus? I was considering solo'ing that too if I can. o.o

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
pinksinsftw

Uhmm.. those bombs can gouge 4k of my hp pretty easily.. Hopefully they'll hit less on you.

I soloed Pap successfully twice so far, but that's because I'm a NL. Doing it on a 3rd job Ranger would be 9001x more of an impressive feat, I must say. Good luck! ^_^

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
Starbomba

i've been (mostly trying to) solo pap ever since lvl 81, and it's one of the boss solos i do like (zak arms>pianus>pap, in that order). i do wish you good luck

just one note: fraps records in raw AVI format, so expect 30 mins take up to 15-20 GB, but nothing a good video edit software can't solve

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
BlazeLeo

[quote=DarkAstrum]@tjd51: Thank you, and I definitly will enjoy it. I love little challenges like this. xP
@wys00: I'm probably just gonna record like, the beginning/summon and first shots, the last few killing shots of the 1st body, and the kill shots for 2nd body too. So I wont d/c or lag and die.
@Blazeleo: Of course. That's why I'm not gonna try and use Puppet while ducking. Duck under Pap, set up puppet, duck under again, fire off a few Strafes, then repeat after Puppet dies.
I did some calculations and stuff and I figured that: 1st Body Pap touch damage for me is gonna be like 2.8~2.9k, ground bomb (unbuffed) is gonna be around 3.7~3.8k damage, and I didn't bother doing 2nd body since there's no way I'll be able to raise my Defense or HP up enough (unless I get Decent HB, which I will be adamantly looking for tonight.) to tank a hit from that. I'll have 3965 HP with Rex Earrings so I'll have juuust enough to tank a hit. My Ranger has pretty high Weapon def thanks to the crappy potential (+100 weapon def) on my shoes.

@Kamikaze450: Good luck on your Zakum Solo. May we both have great memories to look back on. ^_^[/quote]

you have some high defence there Lol...
i have 500-600? (can't check cuz i'm not on)
and the body's touch damage sometimes hits me 3k...
HB usually costs 1.5b collat and 50m. but since you're a bowman you will need Common pants which usually require 2b+ collat...

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
DarkAstrum

@tjd51: Thank you, and I definitly will enjoy it. I love little challenges like this. xP
@wys00: I'm probably just gonna record like, the beginning/summon and first shots, the last few killing shots of the 1st body, and the kill shots for 2nd body too. So I wont d/c or lag and die.
@Blazeleo: Of course. That's why I'm not gonna try and use Puppet while ducking. Duck under Pap, set up puppet, duck under again, fire off a few Strafes, then repeat after Puppet dies.
I did some calculations and stuff and I figured that: 1st Body Pap touch damage for me is gonna be like 2.8~2.9k, ground bomb (unbuffed) is gonna be around 3.7~3.8k damage, and I didn't bother doing 2nd body since there's no way I'll be able to raise my Defense or HP up enough (unless I get Decent HB, which I will be adamantly looking for tonight.) to tank a hit from that. I'll have 3965 HP with Rex Earrings so I'll have juuust enough to tank a hit. My Ranger has pretty high Weapon def thanks to the crappy potential (+100 weapon def) on my shoes.

@Kamikaze450: Good luck on your Zakum Solo. May we both have great memories to look back on. ^_^

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
abgl015

Use the stews on 1st body, and an apple when going for 2nd, you'll need the extra power to pin it a bit so you can use puppet properlly.
A tip, 2nd body is faster than you think.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
BlazeLeo

[quote=DarkAstrum]I got 19 Puppet, so that should do me well enough right?

@ Fenzhongwu: I guess you've never heard of ducking? Then again it's not often heard of in Maplestory. Ducking + Puppet = gg to your gg
@ patrickmmm12: I don't expect you or anyone to care. It's just something I've wanted to do for a while and I knew the Bowman community would be pretty supportive of it.[/quote]

if you use a skill while ducking won't you stand up then get GG'd? lol
gl tanking a 5k hit...you might wanna buy some decent HB before you try to take pap. touch is 3k (first body) top bombs 8k, bottom bombs almost 4k (3.7k on me at lv130)
don't forget dispels. goodluck.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
wys00

i dont see why u would want to record the whole run...maybe part of it? since fraps or w/e program u r planning to use will lag u a bit and u MIGHT die/dc because of it. if u dont have 4k HP, pap might be a lil troublesome for u...just cross ur fingers & hope that the bombs will miss u or hit u less than ur max HP lol

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
tjd51

@DarkAstrum: lol! so fraps is good enough ^_^. I have the paid version, and it wasn't much anyways. I just have yet to use it x_X. But good luck on your run tomorrow! I hope you enjoy it!

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
DarkAstrum

Alright. Well, I'll be taking Pap on tomorrow because my stupid self went in once, forgot to get pots, left to get them.. Then went back in and realized I forgot the Rex earrings.. >_< I thought you could only FIGHT twice.. I didnt know it counted to just go in. -_-

So I guess for tonight I'm going back to hunting Chronos for a card. Oh, and I am going to (try and) record it, but it'll be a pretty crappy vid because I have to keep frame rate low and record at half size so my computer doesnt lag too much for me to be able to fight properly.
Also, thanks to @tjd51 for suggesting Fraps. The guy who told me Fraps sucked is a perfectionist WoW junkie, so I guess I shouldn't have listened to him in the first place. =P

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
Dacarlover

[quote=SinL0rdz]@Dacarlover:

Wait, wait, wait!
Is that a new BB skill?[/quote]

Yes INDEED!
And it's YOURS, For ONLY 99.99k NX

Buy NOW! and we'll throw in another SWEET! skill... but this is a LIMITED TIME OFFER!
Sorry, time's out

OT: you'll need to use puppet just before you kill the clock form, go away from it, snipe it down, and try to pin it.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
tjd51

@DarkAstrum: well, i use camtasia, but you cant fs with it.. so kinda pointless for me (always in fs D. I am going to start testing programs after BB to find which shows the exp bar best, mainly because I want to have a high quality capture of the numbers/%. to answer your question, I would try fraps, It isnt a bad program.

Reply December 3, 2010 - edited
DarkAstrum

[quote=tjd51]I would love to see a vid of you doing it, I want to as well, but I need to level too many times D:.[/quote]

Whats a good (free since I'll probably only use it once) program I can use to record it? I've heard of fraps, but I've also heard that it sucks. o.o

@ antrulz: Time is definitly no issue. And I've been watching some videos on Pap so I know about how it's gonna act and how to react. It also doesn't hurt that I'm used to high risk solo'ing. I solo'd Bigfoot back around when it first came out on a 97 Hermit and only died twice. xD

Reply December 2, 2010 - edited
tjd51

I would love to see a vid of you doing it, I want to as well, but I need to level too many times D:.

Reply December 2, 2010 - edited
SinL0rdz

@Dacarlover:

Wait, wait, wait!
Is that a new BB skill?

Reply December 2, 2010 - edited
Dacarlover

[quote=SinL0rdz]Dang, 5k damage, if only he had a skill that would cause the second body to target it and not him.[/quote]

BUT WAIT!, THERE"S MORE!

Introducing, the All New Skill! PUPPET!

Reply December 2, 2010 - edited
DarkAstrum

I got 19 Puppet, so that should do me well enough right?

@ Fenzhongwu: I guess you've never heard of ducking? Then again it's not often heard of in Maplestory. Ducking + Puppet = gg to your gg
@ patrickmmm12: I don't expect you or anyone to care. It's just something I've wanted to do for a while and I knew the Bowman community would be pretty supportive of it.

Reply December 2, 2010 - edited
SinL0rdz

[quote=fenzhongwu]pap second body does 5k gg[/quote]

Dang, 5k damage, if only he had a skill that would cause the second body to target it and not him.

Reply December 2, 2010 - edited