Thank you Nexon for screwing me over.
If you don't want to read the wall of text, here's this whole thread summed up. My friend and I got majorly screwed over. All our money was invested into Pink Scrolls/White Scrolls, but now they're obsolete. The GM Scrolls are dirt cheap and work 100% of the time..Theyre ruining the game and screwing over anyone who has money.
DISCLAIMER: Before I start, yes this is basically a rant on how Nexon continuously fails to disappoint a huge chunk of its players, so if you don't want to hear me or your going to say how I'm rich as it is and shouldn't be complaining, this is a warning. Also if you read a thread about this before, that's my friend IRL who I share this account with. We both funded this account without spending a single dollar on it, and while being legit Also if you don't believe me, I'm not here to impress you guys or show off. I'm happy with what we both accomplished. You can go on my screens or drager260's to see some items that we scrolled.
Today started out perfect, the server transfer that we were both waiting over a month for finally happened. We merchant cross-worlds and were bringing in 14 Dagger ATT 50%'s to scroll our VIP Dagger (LUK) for our Dual Blader. Over the time we played maple, we were always wealthy from merchanting, but the Pink Scroll event dramatically increased our wealth. We were also bringing in 80 Pink Scrolls from Windia along with the Dagger ATT 50%. We were planning to scroll our VIP Dagger, sell the Pinks, sell the 30 or so White Scrolls we had, in addition with two 15% LUK VSS, one with 18 ATT and carry on cross-world merchanting. We already had around 30~40B mesos in Pinks/WS, but we wanted to make our Dual Blader as good as possible. We aren't greedy, but set a goal that we wanted to reach. Our goal required roughly 80~100B total depending on how our scrolling went with our weapons.
Once the Server Check ended, we both went on and proceeded to scroll the Dagger. It was 115 ATT clean, and 3 lined. The first few scrolls failed, and a few worked, but we had exactly 6 slots after hammers and 6 scrolls left. Amazingly, I worked the last 6/6 and it was 160 ATT 3 Lined. We both were going crazy over how happy we were that it turned out perfect and how we brought the right amount exactly for it to happen. We proceeded to then buy 35 Gacha tickets because they were half-priced and go to Kerning Gacha for a Reverse DB mask. We got a Reverse DB mask, under average, A Fish-Tank Chair and Bubble Bath chair, so we ended up profitting. Also we got Blade Fury 30 which passed. After chaosing our Reverse Mask, it ended up 8 STR 6 INT 8 DEX 4 LUK and 4 ATT. We both thought how great this day ended up being in terms of progress in funding our Dual Blader.
Later, we saw people smega'ing GM Scrolls such as Dagger/Claw/Bow/Xbow, which was unheard of and very random. In addition, people were smegain'g that they were selling Pinks and White Scrolls 200M and 85M each, respectively. White Scrolls are usually 100M, and Pinks 250~300. We shrugged it off and saw it as deflation because of a big amount coming from World-Transfers which was normal, seeing we brought in 80 Pinks from Windia ourselves. Soon enough a buddy told us they found a Dagger 100% GM Scroll from the Golden Temple, and we looked on Basil and saw more people finding them. People smega'd and we went to the FM Channel 1 and saw people selling all sorts for 100~250M. From there we realized that we got Nexon'd to the extreme.
All our hard work and money is almost gone. Yes we'll still have 15~20B or so, but we were going to have 75B once we transferred to a world where White Scrolls were expensive, seeing we were going to turn all our mesos to White Scrolls. We'd have 400+ White Scrolls that we'd sell in other servers. I'm sure other players who invested all their money into White Scrolls/Pinks are upset as well.
It's not only about the money, but what the game is becoming. What's the fun in 100%ing weapons to make them perfect? I personally enjoyed the feeling of not knowing how my scrolling run with 50%'s could go. The rush you get when scrolling is the best part about making an item, and now thats gone. Everyone is going to be running around with perfect items. I'm happy for the people that couldn't afford it, but for people who previously worked hard and spent a huge amount on perfect items are losing out big time. Also Nexon did not even announce that GM Scrolls would be dropping from the Golden Temple. They mentioned Maple/Reverse weapons, but not scrolls that would ruin the game? It's going to effect EVERY economy. Me and my friend IRL spending 50+ Hours farming, all our hard work was gone to waste because of this event. The fact that they don't announce something as drastic as this is beyond me, but then again it is Nexon who doesn't really care about their customers unless it involves them spending money for the game.
In closing, we're unsure on what to do. We're most likely just leaving our account as it is, and selling our Dagger/Katara and taking a HUGE break. Its junior year for both of us and thats the most important thing. We need to both focus on school and take a long deserved break from the game. All our hard work though is basically ruined, and this game in general is ruined. The hackers and dupers already ruin this game, and this is their gateway to ruin it further by duping/hacking/botting to get GM Scrolls. Eventually it'll be 50M for each scroll or less. WOO Nexon good job ruining the game!
Here are the pictures of the items that we have for those who don't believe me. [b] I'm not attempting to show off, we both worked hard for what we have and are proud of our accomplishments. We have no need to try to impress random strangers. [/b]
[url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac353/JollyJanty/Maple0006.jpg]VIP Dagger[/url]
[url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac353/JollyJanty/Maple0010.jpg]VIP Katara[/url] (Clean because we plan to scroll with 20%s)
[url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac353/JollyJanty/Maple0007.jpg]Pink Scrolls[/url]
[url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac353/JollyJanty/Maple0011-1.jpg]White Scrolls[/url]
[url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac353/JollyJanty/Maple0008.jpg]Violet Snowshoes[/url]
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how much are gm scrolls GFA in bera now and where can I find them?
@pzpzplz: You've completely overlooked the meaning of my statement. Whatever. I can't understand your illogical ideals and you can't understand mine for some strange reason. I'll just leave this argument with my original statements which have all my needed rebuttals right inside them. Just refer back to any of my old posts if you wish to debate.
[quote=pzpzplz]it must be nice to have everything spoon fed to you right? because that obviously is the only way you can match up to the rich
the fact that GM scrolls came out was PURE luck while rich players had to work with EFFORT to obtain their mesos before this whole fiasco
obviously there's no reason for you tools to complain[/quote]
Meh, i do okay. I have paid 500m for a pink scroll here and there. But how where those pink scrolls obtained? By pure luck, they didn't need to come out and neither did "GM" scrolls. Maple is based on pure luck. This is given a chance for the poor to get a little better and the rich to be even better. Well pink's have a chance of failing these don't which means its fair to everyone.
When you get 500m from pure meso drops from monster then you can say you put in effort an items sold from monster drops just go against your point because its pure luck that they drop.
[quote=LamboRev]Your fault for investing in items.[/quote]
Like I said before, how else would we hold our mesos? I know people say have mules carry max but that's tedious and hard to buy items over max mesos. Also, the value of the meso keeps decreasing, especially with this event it'll decrease even more and you'll see the NX:Ratio sky rocket.
solution, buy 100% scrolls when they are cheap, same goes with ws's. Then when prices inflate resell. Problem solved
Feel sorry for you OP. These basilers are jealous that you were able to put in the effort to merchant that much money while they couldn't so they're seeing it as "justice" when they were just lazy. Thumbs up+
Your fault for investing in items.
Well, at least you were able to accumulate that much money before.
All I see is a wall of text saying you lost money, and then a cliche "What has happened to this game?"
You might as well take a break and come back later because keep in mind, the GM scroll thing is an event.
[quote=Lilyanne]Boo hoo stop crying, life is never fair, you better start getting use to it.[/quote]
I love you baby
OT: How does one lose 50bil from an event in just a day ?
@pzpzplz: No they didn't. Nothing is 100% safe. Did you read my real world example?
We'll say product A is the best product of its kind out there. It's where everyone who has the money puts their stock into.
All of a sudden, without warning, a company comes out with product B which makes product A useless. Product A's stock plummets and tons of people lose money.
This is the same example. You can't blame anyone since you decided that your method was best which ended up being unsafe. Nothing is 100% certain and they chose incorrectly. They have NO ONE to blame but themselves.
Progress must continue... especially in a game. If things stayed the same, it would get stale and boring.
Even though I didn't lose anything... I still feel this isn't quite right... but what can you do, really?
Hope you all know, this may hit the economy in the future. The poor may feel an even bigger gap.
@pzpzplz: My example was just an example saying I shouldn't be blaming anyone but myself. Something caused the inflation and I can't blame it.
Major fail rant...
Dude... this is actually helping. Pink and white scrolls were way over priced this is helping even things out so less funded players can have better items like all the "pros" do.
@pzpzplz: The new cubes that can add a line. Pam's songs that were readded, etc...
That's how economics works. GM scrolls are from a time-limited event, you'll just have to hold onto your stuff longer before you can sell.
Besides, there are lots of players who've drawn shorter straws than you. Be thankful for what you've got.
Well sir, you didn't get Nexon'd too much.
For the past year I played PopTag and spent quite a bit of NX ($100+ real money) on it. I also made NX from MTS (around 100k+). A couple of weeks ago Nexon announced that they would be closing its servers. That's right; all our hard work and leveling down the drain. But wait, Nexon decided they would refund our money! Yay!
Why am I disappointed? Well, Nexon decided not to refund ALL our money. We are only being refunded for the items in possession (No refunds on any extra exp/money coupons, etc.). Also, even from the items being refunded, we are only getting a percentage back depending on when we bought the items. I thought we paid the certain price to keep the items permanently? Shouldn't we get a full refund? Anyways, Nexon decided to even screw us over by not refunding us 6 months of the game.
Today I got my money refunded. After spending near 200-300k on PopTag I got refunded a little more than 32k.
Hoorah.
GM Scrolls expire lol.
[quote=mattx0r]Maplestory isnt a job; its for fun. When you go out in the real world and people ask you for your accomplishments, you can't just say "Oh yeah i made a bunch of virtual money in a online game. And I even did it starting from scratch". That's just lame. Regardless of whether you started from scratch and merched your way up, it's still in a virtual game that almost none of the real world know about and won't give a dam about it.
And plus, you shouldnt let Maplestory make you angry and pissed. Instead, take advantage of the event, like you did with the Pink Scroll Event. Try to think rationally even in the most hardest of times.[/quote]
It's challenges like those that keep me from quitting. I don't like easy path, be it real life or game.
whyd u right an essay on basil, 90% of the people won't read it or spam posts of "too many words"
If you feel like taking a huge break you should let me play on your character
@GupLupSC: Yeah... Because there was never a GM scroll event.
It will inflate in time you just need to be patient... With it costing less then 50m everyone will get excited and buy them while they can making them even more rare then pinks and white scrolls.
But I'm not here to argue, let's wait a few more months and see for ourselves, shall we?
Maplestory isnt a job; its for fun. When you go out in the real world and people ask you for your accomplishments, you can't just say "Oh yeah i made a bunch of virtual money in a online game. And I even did it starting from scratch". That's just lame. Regardless of whether you started from scratch and merched your way up, it's still in a virtual game that almost none of the real world know about and won't give a dam about it.
And plus, you shouldnt let Maplestory make you angry and pissed. Instead, take advantage of the event, like you did with the Pink Scroll Event. Try to think rationally even in the most hardest of times.
As I said in the other post, it happens but you need to suck it up
I had ilbis when they were 32m, steelies when they were 12m. After a week of the patch that came out, all steelies dropped, and so did ilbis
When NLC came out, all my WGA scrolls dropped down 60% in price.
I understand that 100m isnt as much right now, but back then it was as much as or a little less than what you have.
If nexon has to pay attention to the economy in order to bring patches out, we would be no where.
Time to move on and find something else to merch.
Your not getting screwing you over, they are giving you a bigger opportunity to make even more Mesos when the new classes come out.
[quote=aarrreh]just saying.... as probably in the 50% part of poor people... only seen 1.4b on my account at one time.... these gm scrolls suck. not only do they do alot but now i can't find anyone buying other scrolls. no one is buying 60% for any wep. all they want is GM scrolls. this also destroyed the market for us poor people trying to stay slightly less poor then the rest. i think the biggest gap it tried to fix was of the medium and the low. now the medium will become the low and the low won't change at all. time to start investing in chairs . . . but hey i'm no merch... i just try to put my money in the none usables from now on.[/quote]
Sell equips.
By 60%'s dirt cheap and scroll equips to sell them. Hell, I made 30m off a clean staff from the gemstone imps.
Skill books work too.
If you can't yet afford GM scrolls, that's quite alright. Because it makes all the other scrolls more affordable for you to scroll decent/great equips.
[quote=TacoLOL]LF>Thread audiobook o.o[/quote]
Coming soon in 2012!
be the first one to see it!
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[quote=iNubBandit]@TheGame225
Bigger gap between the richer and poor people lol? Poor people are poor for a reason.
@applebreaker
If they actually ban people for not following every rule on the ToS, I'm guessing 99% of the community will get banned.
@infferrno
Omg 1m deflation of 10% scrolls, and 5m deflation of 30% scrolls?[/quote]
It was a little more than that. I'm sorry, but you're looking at this from a biased point of view seeing as this is your friend.
Let me give you an example... 3 months ago, I thought mesos were the best way to keep all my funds... so I converted everything to mesos before going on a 3 month break. I come back and find out that, thanks to the NX:meso ratio my mesos were nearly worthless... Should I blame Nexon for introducing the new Cubes and such? No... I can only blame myself for my bad choice.
This was HIS bad choice. Nexon chose to hurt 0.005% of the populous to help out 25% of the population... People like your buddies lost cash, but way more people benefited. It breached the gap between poor and rich, making this game more fair.
Now stop thinking of him as your friend, and think of him as a stranger and then think things through.
@TheGame225
Bigger gap between the richer and poor people lol? Poor people are poor for a reason.
@applebreaker
If they actually ban people for not following every rule on the ToS, I'm guessing 99% of the community will get banned.
@infferrno
Omg 1m deflation of 10% scrolls, and 5m deflation of 30% scrolls?
[quote=aznanimality]Lol fail moar.
Learn economics, new stuff goes into the economy all the time that disrupts the way things work.
Just imagine it like taxing the wealthy.[/quote]
Hackers ruin Maple Economy more than you think they "Help"... Bottom line, hackers are frown upon.
this works well for me
@iNubBandit: No he doesn't. Nexon never released patch notes for 50% 2H scrolls.
Also, read the rest of my long-arse rants and you'll see why he shouldn't be crying.
LF>Thread audiobook o.o
[quote=kigga1992]this is what mostly everyone is gonna say to this thread..:
cry me a river
get a life
good for you, you merch
its a game
stop crying
who cares
to long to read
go tell someone who cares
ill edit more when i remember [/quote]
yeah but dude, think of how much RL money they would get if they would of converted that 75b into RL money.... that would be like hundreds of dollars... and having it turned into 15b?
I prescribe everyone in this thread an economics class, stat.
Just because it's easier to get a godly weapon(100-300m per scroll is still not available to anyone, so stop panicking) doesn't mean that everyone and their level 10 mules will walk around with perfect PSB's.
It just means that more people get to enjoy being stronger and being able to actually afford scrolling great items.
Boohoo, the economy is actually in better shape and more fair.
stop crying just cuz u want the gap between nubs and pros to get bigger
I would have posted on this thread earlier, but I was suspended...
1. @hockeycrazy4
"A true merchant would have known that this was going to happen and prepared accordingly."
Because people are expected to know about stuff that isn't in the patch notes, right?
2. @infferrno
"All you're doing right now is crying over spilled milk and refusing to take responsibility for your own actions... you're in denial that you made a mistake, no, instead you blame the only other party in this venture... Nexon. Good for you. You're just like the other few million ignorant people in the world who blame stupid things like the government for their own failings."
He has a legit reason to blame Nexon, they took over a month to do world transfers, and didn't say anything about these scrolls in the patch notes.
3. @920t
"look who cares? they will only be around for the event, and we only got ONE free ticket."
The tickets are in the cash shop for 9xx nx each, people will buy them for sure to stock up on the scrolls. It will probably take 5 months+ for his items to get back up to the original price.
4. @MuffinsINC
"Blame nexon for all your stupid mistakes. Yeah okay you do that."
Same reason as #2. After you buy a world transfer, you should expect to transfer in 1-2 weeks. Bringing items from other servers to sell is actually really good profit if you know what you're doing, which I doubt you do.
I would post more but I'm too lazy. Sorry for your loss Steve/Ricky.
[quote=ReesaMapler]Any time I see someone say they world transferred scrolls, it screams offsite buying.
Your main account is in 1 server, but you magically pulled lets see... 80x400, 32bil out your arse in another server? Right, ok.[/quote]
I have no reason to buy offsite. I can give you the names of the two people who bought my scrolled lampions for 240k NX each. With that 480k NX I went to Windia and bought 10 attack work gloves, I can get an SS of the mule there that bought those. With the 10 Attack work gloves I went and bought 2H W.ATT 50% and dagger attack 50%s. They were 100m in Windia for the 2H W.ATT and 300m in Broa. I waited 5 weeks for the world transfer to happen, if Nexon was on time every week this would have never happened and I would have been done cross world merchanting a while ago. It's actually really good mesos if you know what you're doing..
Oh and lets look at the situation before.
The only people perfecting their items were hackers and offsite buyers.
Nexon gains NOTHING from either of those groups, so their solution is quite beautiful really.
"If we can't profit you can't either" loooool.
Any time I see someone say they world transferred scrolls, it screams offsite buying.
Your main account is in 1 server, but you magically pulled lets see... 80x400, 32bil out your arse in another server? Right, ok.
Okay, let's explain how the economy works again.
As the price of all scrolls go down, so do the price of scrolled items.
Scrolled items and scrolls themselves were the very basis of MS economy.
Since they go down in price, the value of the meso goes up seeing as pretty much everything is cheaper.
Everyone has less money, so everything is now cheaper. Those who already have raw mesos find themselves richer, and those who are just starting up have it easier since they don't have to merch all the time to afford the better equips.
You didn't lose anything, the game just became more fair.
Too bad.
So you think because you're rich you're the only one in Maple who works hard or their money? Please, this is nothing but a whiny rant one of the most pointless ones I've seen so far.
This helped people who can't afford White Scrolls and pink Scrolls for what they used to cost.... It evened out the poor-rich ratio, deflated the right equips and scrolls to a reasonable non-merchant price and inflated the right ones which helped this game not be ruled by the rich.
You still have 15~20b, an amount that people wish for. The only thing that's changed is the fact that you can't have everything the way you want it to be... I don't usually call people whiners or crybabies but this is out of hand, stop ranting on this subject please and enjoy the money you have.
It's not like pinks and white scrolls aren't going to inflate again...
Your micro economy gone down the drain? Here cry into this bottle... oh the tears will be shipped and sold to actual wealthy people who find the tears of the "hard workers" a delicacy.
Either way though whats been done cant be undone cause they wont undo it. However heres some solace... you can rest now and not open up maple for 3 months
[quote=whattheHEO]zzz several hours later, I come back to this thread to see it flooded with idiotic noobs saying "QQ moar" or "stop whining." First of all, this is BasilMarket; Maplers come here ALL the time to "QQ" so if you don't like it, then fine, don't click on the thread to add a negative and often ignorant comment. There are others on this thread, including the TS, who make fairly valid points and UNDERSTAND how economics work. Don't come to this thread saying "you screwed yourself over" or "that's life." I'm pretty sure if this was your country's economy in real life, you'd be whining and complaining as well (that is, assuming you even put in hard work to begin with). And for the record, I'm not posting this to defend or support the TS, I'm just tired of idiotic Basilers who don't know what they're talking about.[/quote]
Sorry for taking long, but basil stopped working last night for me. I understand that Nexon is trying to fill in the gap between the poor and the rich, but there are ways to do it without screwing over one or the other. In addition, there's nothing we can do about it now, but a lot of people including me and my friend are extremely upset over the fact that Nexon continuously goes back on their word. They said that World Transfers/Name Changes occur every week during the weekly scheduled server checks. If you're a company, and some people spend real life money on items such as that, its common courtesy to live up to your word. It didn't take two weeks, or three weeks, or four weeks for them to make the World Transfers, but FIVE weeks. Are you kidding? If Nexon actually lived up to their word and allowed them to go through weekly, me and my friend would have funded our Dual Blader long ago and all of this could have been avoided. And on top of that, they don't announce GM Scrolls and how high the drop rate is. GG.
You guys got screwed hard and bad, soz.
This is what you get for merching and doing whatever you can to get the most money out of people. To me, merchants ruin the game, inflation happen because of them, and they offer you 1/2 of what you're selling's worth so they can benefit hugely; I still cannot sell anything at their true worth without a shop because of merchants.
Making amazing weapons accessible to everyone, CLEARLY A HORRIBLE IDEA. Warning, face approaching palm in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
[quote=xSoonie]wall of text.. </3[/quote]
this, this made me lmfao so much!
This economy is explosive, be cautious.