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Advice on a Cruel 8 year old

So... I met my 8 year old nephew for the first time... he is a monster and I thought my own brother and sister were bad...

Anyhow... My big sister (who is the mother of my nephew) also has a baby and he was in my arms trying to sleep (he's around 10 months). And the 8 year old starts purposely making loud noises.. and goes downstairs and gets an ice lolly sitting right next to me and began to slurp on it really loudly trying to stop the baby from sleeping and getting his attention to what he was eating (Which worked cause the baby ended up in distress and crying because he wanted the ice lolly). I feel this child does things on purpose for attention and to anger me... I had a joke with my big sister and used her phone to put something on her facebook just for a joke with her (she got around 50 comments in the space of 10 minutes) the second she came back into the room after me stupidly giggling with my brother about it, he grabbed the phone from me and he was like "MOM GUESS WHAT AUNTIE JESSIE AND UNCLE PERRY DID" I grabbed the phone, told him to not ruin the joke but he continued. "Mommy..." and he told her what we had done.. I had put up with his annoying attention seeking stuff since Friday and I've had enough - We tried to watch a film yesterday called The Clinic and all he done was walk infront of the television, sing and speak loudly (This is another time the baby was asleep in the living room!). Suddenly he sits by the baby who is sleeping and starts pressing the belly of a duck which makes a sound and woke him up... And he got told off by his mother and he just stood there grinning! He has such an evil grin - it scares me.... Honestly if you were to look at this child, then look at his parents they are NOTHING alike and he looks so evil... even another member of my family has said before that he has an evil aura come from him... which is kinda creepy! I didn't believe until I met him. I feel he is literally possessed by evil... The worse part is how he will purposely sit on the baby when nobody is looking, or he will even hurt him... How my sister leaves such an evil child alone with her baby frightens me... I bought the baby some toys and he grabbed them and was throwing them around them room saying that he doesn't need toys and this shouldn't be taken home and it's horrible, then attempted to break them (We're talking about $60-$70 each toys here, not junk)..

[b]TL;DR[/b] 8 year old Nephew is evil and I don't want to be near him.

Anyhow.. tomorrow I am supposed to be going with my big sister, her brat son and her baby to London and I don't want to go anymore... all because of her son.
Is there something I can do to let my big sister down without upsetting her? because I cannot cope with another week of her son irritating me and draining all my fun... which I rarely have due to my anxiety

edited; due to some too many 'and' lol

July 14, 2013

52 Comments • Newest first

Nashi

@imadragon777: I was an easy to deal with child that's all lol. My mom must have done something right from the start. I loved being praised and I could keep myself busy like a good girl. I understood why not to do something and i was treated with much love and care and my family would teach me things properly (e.g. I LOVED to play with candles/fire as a child but to show me how dangerous it could be my granny and I lit some matches and put it in a plate in the sink and it exploded from the heat @_@), they didn't just say no to something and actually let me know the reasons for why I shouldn't do it. Beatings in such a situation wouldn't have done anything there (or giving me a flat out no), I would have had no space to grow and would have confusing limits and as a child I would have naturally tried to go beyond those limits to know what the big deal is (I guess?).
Explaining children makes it so much easier in the long run I think..

Ahh but then again I also was never really loud as a baby either xD but one way or the other I just don't support how people raise their kids nowadays and it's no surprise to get such brats out of it in the end. I'm lucky I had a responsible and smart mom and grandparents and that I naturally wasn't a loud child. But I think that loud kids can be "tamed" with the right, loving and respectful measures too...

Reply July 15, 2013
MyKarma

I have a few cousins that are like that, I'm so glad that I don't live anywhere near them.

Just slap him once, reasoning with an 8-year old is like reasoning with a wall. You could also go about ignoring him completely, because once the kid knows that he isn't getting any attention, he'll stop. That's pretty much what I do and it works for the most part.

@Godbobman:

Yep, that what they're called in Britain.

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BIueee

Tell on him

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HolyDragon

It's the parenting. He needs a good whopping. I actually seen this from my cousins. These kinds of kids come from parents who believe their children deserve the best.

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4evavoodoo

Show him whos boss tackle him and hold him down until he cries

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deathprinny

Get a whip with battery acid.

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Wanton

You need to take control and be more aggressive. He probably thinks he owns the world show him who is boss make him cry a river.

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Matewan

I think he's just being a kid. When I was around his age there were a few kids who used to bully me at school, but a year or two later I became great friends with a few of them, and the guy who bullied me the worst treated me very well in middle/high school. I was also really impulsive as a kid and I would throw a tantrum once or twice if I didn't like something. Hopefully he'll grow up in a few years and there won't be anything to worry about

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jjgpirate

[quote=imadragon777]You had the lucky childhood[/quote]

I too was never beaten or hit,grounded and i never recall being scolded for that mather. I agree with you for most part however, some kids have been raised so messed up because the parents either hit him,scold him/her too much or defended and overprotected him too much.Like my little cousins who had a combination of the two(mostly overprotection and spoilling though) and those two REALLY dont respond to talking anymore. They only respond to a slap(not beating) or a scold(mostly).Because they simply dont respect their mother(slapper/scolds a lot anymore and mostly have a combination of fear and respect for their father(threaten with hit/one big scold).They are good kids just confused by their own parents because they scold them for things thats not their fault/small things.But defend them when they make a mistake or they get defensive when someone else corrects their children, causing their children to lose respect to other people. Kids like this who dont respond to a respectful "talking" need a slap every now and then wether its by me(if they punch me im going to hit them back) or life itself(cousin thought he could do what he want and not expect a retaliation so he kicked a kid in his baseball team for a petty reason and the kid jumped on him MMA style, guess what? His mom came and defended him.) Every time we confront my(aunt) what she is doign wrong with her kids she gets all defensive and feels insulted and just doesnt want to see what shes doing wrong.

TLDR its almost always the parents fault the kids are like this but sometimes the kids are so screwed up that the parents cannot do much else to change their child because they only know one way to raise a kid or the kid doesnt respond to them anymore and it takes a slap from life(like a kid from playground) to correct their attitude.
(IMO)

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Antisora12

Kill him.

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imadragon777

[quote=Nashi]@Ecliptic: it may not be too harmful but it shouldn't be the main way to raise a child.
I was never beaten in my childhood but I do remember my mom slapping my face once I was horribly shocked... personally I'd rather not have my child experience something like that. Violence is only something people use when they run out of words and they reached their personal (intelectual?) limit.
A child will not UNDERSTAND why it is wrong to do something rather than fear the consequence of doing it. But what will happen to that person in the teenage and adult life then? I'd rather not know... kids should neither grow up in fear nor with too much freedom or limits... finding the right measure is hard but most parents really mess that up nowadays...[/quote]

You had the lucky childhood

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Boss

LMFAO strong parenting and childhood behaviour understanding ITT.

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Nashi

@Ecliptic: it may not be too harmful but it shouldn't be the main way to raise a child.
I was never beaten in my childhood but I do remember my mom slapping my face once I was horribly shocked... personally I'd rather not have my child experience something like that. Violence is only something people use when they run out of words and they reached their personal (intelectual?) limit.
A child will not UNDERSTAND why it is wrong to do something rather than fear the consequence of doing it. But what will happen to that person in the teenage and adult life then? I'd rather not know... kids should neither grow up in fear nor with too much freedom or limits... finding the right measure is hard but most parents really mess that up nowadays...

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Lmafroggy

Do what I used to do with my bratty brother.
Ignore him and tell him that if he wants attention that he's not getting it from you. That you're not like his parents and you don't care if you're going to make him feel bad.
Then be like "wow I bet kids your age don't even act like this you should feel stupid" works 100% of the time. Especially if you pretend to record them. They get embarrassed and feel stupid and walk away.

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Ecliptic

[quote=Nashi]@imadragon777: Raising a child with and in fear WILL NOT make it a valuable and responsible adult...A kid needs to UNDERSTAND and not FEAR. That kid just needs to learn that his behaviour isn't okay. When I was raised I for example was taught the saying (German saying? it sounds gay if I translate it "What you don't want to be done to you do to nobody else too"
so he needs to understand it's not okay to treat others miserably cause he wouldn't want it too and that he'll only get paid attention to (and he'll only be noticed) if he's a good kid.
It's all about conditioning him for certain behaviour.[/quote]
A few spankings here and there can't do too much harm. Plus it'll get the message across a lot faster.

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CureSword

[quote=Godbobman]I have never heard the term ice lolly before. Does it mean popsicle?[/quote]

Yes it does. You should tell your sister to discipline him before it is too late. In a way this somehow reminded me how my grandparents failed at disciplining one of my aunts and now she became a spoiled b not knowing when to stop being rude.

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alanliuis

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zentai

Throw a wooden cooking spoon at his head.

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Zoneflare4

I would never let my child behave that way.

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cchpm

The problem seems to be the parents. Maybe your sister is not doing her job to teach her kids how to behave. Raising a child is not simply letting them do whatever they want. Punishment is necessary sometimes.
However, I don't really recommend you to punish the kid because every parent teaches their kids differently. Maybe they won't like the way you treat their kids. They might think that you are wrong. Just let the kid be, don't babysit him. Even if he turns out bad in the future, it is not your problem. He can blame his parents later.
Just do your job when you have your own kids & don't spoil them like your sister did with her kids.

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pieshadowxx

Tell him he's adopted or pretend that he's been given up for adoption.

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Dorks

Thankfully, my nephews and nieces were never too unbearable, seeing how the only ones I don't really like are my 2nd oldest cousin's...her kids are spoiled brats and crybabies.

I'd sit him down and grab his arms really tight and tell him something like "if you don't quit doing this and that, I'm not going to be your friend or let you play with my phone (lol idk)" or something. And if he does try to push your buttons again, ignore him for real.

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mechibi

ignore him
pretend he doesnt exist, like hes invisible
never talk to him
no one is talking, its just your "imagination"

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Liddy

[quote=spring786]A really mother would straighten him up and whip is ass. I know I would if he was my child.[/quote]

My big sister doesn't like me anymore (His mother) cause I told her how I felt about him and her excuse was "He does it with me and my husband too" Sorry but what type of excuse is that? Everytime I have walked into the living room since the huge fight she pretends I'm not there... e.g looking away at the TV, reading stuff on her phone... I don't feel like saying sorry even though my family say "HE IS 8 AND YOU ARE 25" is being 8 really a good excuse to irritate someone until breaking point and hurt a 10 month old baby? She's only my half sister so if she doesn't like me anymore, then I honestly do not care... I lose nothing as the only time she's really interested in me is if she wants to go to Bingo. After the way she has treated me after I made her son cry after I flipped and yelled about what a spoilt, annoying brat he is and how he ruins everything I honestly have no feelings for her after she treated me so bad - would you punish your child if your sister was babysitting him for 3 hours and he made it hell for you? or would you hate your sister for flipping out on you and calling your son a spoilt brat and making him cry? o.o

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Nashi

@imadragon777: Raising a child with and in fear WILL NOT make it a valuable and responsible adult...A kid needs to UNDERSTAND and not FEAR. That kid just needs to learn that his behaviour isn't okay. When I was raised I for example was taught the saying (German saying? it sounds gay if I translate it "What you don't want to be done to you do to nobody else too"
so he needs to understand it's not okay to treat others miserably cause he wouldn't want it too and that he'll only get paid attention to (and he'll only be noticed) if he's a good kid.
It's all about conditioning him for certain behaviour.

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Doutei

discipline.
if your sister hates you for it, tell her that she's doing a bad job of parenting.

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Pashmimi

This reminded me of my friend's cousin... She always complains to me about how this girl is the most annoying thing on the planet. Basically, her cousin is this spoiled brat, and her parents think she's the most perfect thing in the whole world and will do anything to make their little cupcake happy. She gets those Disney princess makeovers at Disney World. She will throw a tantrum because she didn't get another cupcake... after eating only the icing on her first one. She thinks that she can get anything she wants, and the world will bow down to her and obey her. My friend says she looks forward to the day when her cousin is thrown into the read world, and nobody's there to listen to her orders.

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ishottedsnow2

I know a kid like that. Man i was so tame when i was young. I honestly find kids so annoying. Tbh, tell your sis about it.

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Nashi

That he gets attention for his bad behaviour only teaches him to do it more.
When he's being bad you (and your sister too) should give him a time out.
if a child learns he won't get attention and will be ignored while he's bad then he'll stop it.
too bad he's already 8 though cause kids need to learn that sooner (when I was in Kindergarten the kids that were bad would have to sit down and weren't allowed to play with the others for a while)
from now on just try to ignore him. If he physically attacks you in any way then idk, slap him back maybe, though personally I don't support beating children (though obviously he has to learn what he's doing to someone else by experiencing it himself)

Or try to annoy him equally as much? Sit on him, when he goes to sleep come in to wake him etcetc *shrug*

and it's probs rather typical for a child to freak out like that. When I was 6 and my cousin was born I wasn't too happy either cause suddenly someone else was in teh center of attention. It's understandable but he needs to learn that the baby being around is a good thing and he will be treated well if he's good to the child too and if he's being a good kid. Otherwise ignore him.
Also, his mom should have him much less freedom. For example he shouldn't be getting an ice lolly all by himself just like that....

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hobbes6098

Torture him until he changes his ways. Hang him upside down and put mineral water down his nose.

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DrHye

Just tell her basically what you said in this thread. His behavior is just too much for you to deal with and you do not want to do another day of it, especially in public

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MegGriffin

Hitting doesn't work for me. I smack my brother in the face (id say pretty hard) he cries for 5 minutes, and then he gets bad again. Repeat this. He is a cute kid though, its just he has a hitting problem. He keeps hitting me on the arm for no reason to tick me off.

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jjgpirate

If your littlest sister cares so much for the brat, lock her alone with your nephew in a room.

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LoveMageLove

Get your sister to discipline him or something.

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jjgpirate

Slap the mothafuhrer or lock him in the basement in the dark.
That or tell him to grow the fuhrer up and stop being such a needy brat(*cough*militairy school *cough*)

This reminds me of something, what if the baby is the real evil one?

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Fiercerain

Kids can be evil yeah? I was a really evil child as I was growing up, you can't expect every kid to be nice and get along hunky dory from the get-go. Though it's hard to say if a bit of discipline will do him some good, or if he'll grow out of his attention seeking phase especially because there's a younger child that needs more attention than him right now. I don't blame the little monster.

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Ecliptic

smack the kid a few times, that'll teach him

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Jrosen

drown him in acid

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Floral

I'm glad I was a good child ._.
except one time I almost blew up the house..

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TheDStar

Sounds like a spoiled brat.

You just have to prove you're more dominant.

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demonicrack

@Liddy , Well, he's been in the spotlight of his parents for 7 years? He's used to being the center of attention. Tell him he needs to learn to grow up and not be an attention seeker. The world will chew him up and spit him out if he grows up like this. He's going to have no friends if he's always like this

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Liddy

@iCanRapAndSing @Pereeia Thanks, I just did this after your advice approx 5 minutes ago and he's crying his head off saying it's unfair >___> so I'm playing loud music to drain it out haha.

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Sushiyumyums

Tell your younger sister to lock herself in a room with that devil for 1 hour, see how she reacts.

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Pereeia

Lock him in a room
My mom did this to me when I was being a bad kid. Worked well on me.

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MeshMage

[quote=Liddy]My sister said I could slap him.. but I don't really want to slap someone elses child. I tried to yell at him but our other sister (my youngest) screamed at me for yelling at him "DONT YOU TALK TO MY NEPHEW LIKE THAT"[/quote]

Slap him. You'll feel good about it. And your youngest sister is a b****.

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Boss

Probably jealous of the attention the baby gets is all. How old are you anyway?

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imadragon777

@Liddy: Just slap him and get it over with. He won't do anything if he's scared

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Liddy

[quote=imadragon777]You should slap him that's what my mom always did to me when I did something bad[/quote]

My sister said I could slap him.. but I don't really want to slap someone elses child. I tried to yell at him but our other sister (my youngest) screamed at me for yelling at him "DONT YOU TALK TO MY NEPHEW LIKE THAT"

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imadragon777

You should slap him that's what my mom always did to me when I did something bad

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