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Nexon banning without looking into it

So people I know used 1 to 5 cubes and gets 30 day ban which is kinda a lot for just 5 cubes. While I see people who used 30 cubes still on maple running around free. Where's the logic here? And there's people who exploited the cubes and still didn't get ban, I don't see how fair is nexon banning really.

September 6, 2014

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Shikon

[quote=lucky5209]@BoredAF: well my friend didn't know till I told him he used only 1 cube forreal n then he didn't use a more and went afk and that's the truth. Nexon could of hell banned my friend but nope they gave him a 30 day ban for 1 cube, that's just unfair compare to thoses who exploited the cubes and gets no ban.[/quote]

So you were watching his char 24/7 without breaks?

Reply September 6, 2014
lucky5209

@BoredAF: well my friend didn't know till I told him he used only 1 cube forreal n then he didn't use anymore and went afk and that's the truth. Nexon could of hell banned my friend but nope they gave him a 30 day ban for 1 cube, that's just unfair compare to thoses who exploited the cubes and gets no ban.

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Scomomage

[quote=lucky5209]@Axnslicer: it's nexon fault for not making sure the game is 100% ok and letting it go online even tho they knew this happen they didn't post any warning on website telling people there's an exploit and tell them not to abuse it cause they will get banned my friend used 1 and gets banned which is kinda unfair cause its ONE what can 1 cube do? Effect the whole maple? While there's people using 30 cubes and gets no ban making bills with the equs they cubed. That's how unfair I see it. Also I told my friend about the exploit but he already used one after that he just afked all day and now he gets ban for that even tho he didn't mean to use the cube[/quote]

What kind of logic is "the game is not glitch free, therefore it isn't my fault for abusing that glitch" and "other people exploited it more." The first argument is ridiculous, and the second one is already an admission of guilt, so why even bother?

@above
Nexon has been lenient too many times. Maplers also have a responsibility to control themselves and not take part in exploits, even if an exploit can be used by everyone. That being said, I do agree that Nexon needs to broadcast that there is an exploit, and to warn players not to participate in it. Maybe they'll implement this in future games, although I'm not optimistic.

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KuroTsuru

[quote=Axnslicer]First of all, learn proper spelling and grammar.

Second, no game is going to be perfect. Nexon does what they can, it's the responsibility of the players to refrain from abusing exploits and to report them so they can be fixed.

Your friend likely used a lot more than one cube if he was permanently banned. People can, and in cases like this often will, lie in order to make themselves appear less guilty.

If you know others who abused the exploit, feel free to report them so they can be banned as well.[/quote]

No game is perfect, but a good game or company can admit they did something wrong and fix it in a justified and reasonable manner. They should count it as their loss and move on, not randomly ban people left and right who may or may not have abused the glitch; that's just being childish, overly punctilious, and inefficient.

Unique Potential Scroll attendances before were fine, and they figured out the flaw of it, along with certain hotday rewards. They wised up, cut their losses, and created higher requirements for them. See, that's being reasonable and smart. People will always want the easy profit route, so as a company, Nexon should do its best to minimize the damage and only punish those who are doing something that manipulates the game to give them an unfair advantage. In this case, everyone had the ability to "abuse" the glitch and it was Nexon's fault for not broadcasting a message earlier about the glitch, the consequences of abusing it, or just taking down the server immediately for a quick fix. They took the servers down like 18 hours later or something and didn't even warn us about it and took an hour before creating a post on the main site that updated us about the glitch.

Bottom line: They aren't being professional and they are creating a lot of injustices right now with what they are doing. You still want players to be punished for abusing the ban, even if it was only 1 cube? Fine. Keep the accounts unbanned, but exclude them from the next hotday event or 2x event, something like that. I'd be fine with that kind of punishment, it would make some sense at least.

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Axnslicer

[quote=lucky5209]@Axnslicer: People are sending tickets on how they got banned for no reason and nothing is done. Also insulting my Grammer and spelling won't get you anywhere since 1. This is online not a college level essay where everything has to be perfect 2. I'm a human being I'm not perfect with spelling or grammer. Also my friend got 30 day ban for 1 cube.[/quote]

Tickets take time. Out of all the tickets being sent about false bans, I would guess at least 70% of them are from people who actually deserved the ban. People like that are the ones at fault for slowing down the responses.

Telling you to have better spelling and grammar will give me either

1. A response that won't be a headache to read.
2. A reason to not reply

You keep on saying that, but you know what? I don't think your friend got a 30 day ban for only using 1 cube. I think he used closer to 100. But if you still want to disagree, feel free to ask him to submit a ticket.

[quote=draken]@Axnslicer: Then don't be a hypocrite. My point is if a multi-billion dollar company doing the best they can results in MapleStory, I'm not sure video games have a very bright future.[/quote]

If lucky5209 had better spelling and grammar than me, it would be hypocritical for me to call him out for that. As you can see, he doesn't. So you have no ground to stand on.

Then your point is irrelevant to my post, which is about improving the game by banning exploiters, and actually doesn't have much of a place in this thread at all.

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lucky5209

@Axnslicer: People are sending tickets on how they got banned for no reason and nothing is done. Also insulting my Grammer and spelling won't get you anywhere since 1. This is online not a college level essay where everything has to be perfect 2. I'm a human being I'm not perfect with spelling or grammer. Also my friend got 30 day ban for 1 cube.

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draken

@Axnslicer: Then don't be a hypocrite. My point is if a multi-billion dollar company doing the best they can results in MapleStory, I'm not sure video games have a very bright future.

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Axnslicer

[quote=draken]First of all, are you really pulling the "proper spelling and 'grammer'" card on basilmarket? Don't be a grammar Nazi. Nice spelling by the way <3.

Second, I don't see games like DotA 2 or LoL dying due to too many exploits and hacks in the game.[/quote]

Yes I am. As you can tell, I don't care all that much, but I'm not going to bother reading your response if your grammar is worse than a preschooler's. Also, it's not your job to defend someone else's grammar if you're not even going to read it.

Your point? So other games have less hackers, doesn't that mean you should try even harder to get rid of the ones that are there?

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draken

[quote=Axnslicer]First of all, learn proper spelling and grammer.

Second, no game is going to be perfect. Nexon does what they can, it's the responsibility of the players to refrain from abusing exploits and to report them so they can be fixed.[/quote]

First of all, are you really pulling the "proper spelling and 'grammer'" card on basilmarket? Don't be a grammar Nazi. Nice spelling by the way <3.

Second, I don't see games like DotA 2 or LoL dying due to too many exploits and hacks in the game.

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Axnslicer

[quote=lucky5209]@Axnslicer: it's nexon fault for not making sure the game is 100% ok and letting it go online even tho they knew this happen they didn't post any warning on website telling people there's an exploit and tell them not to abuse it cause they will get banned my friend used 1 and gets banned which is kinda unfair cause its ONE what can 1 cube do? Effect the whole maple? While there's people using 30 cubes and gets no ban making bills with the equs they cubed. That's how unfair I see it. Also I told my friend about the exploit but he already used one after that he just afked all day and now he gets ban for that even tho he didn't mean to use the cube[/quote]

First of all, learn proper spelling and grammar.

Second, no game is going to be perfect. Nexon does what they can, it's the responsibility of the players to refrain from abusing exploits and to report them so they can be fixed.

Your friend likely used a lot more than one cube if he was permanently banned. People can, and in cases like this often will, lie in order to make themselves appear less guilty.

If you know others who abused the exploit, feel free to report them so they can be banned as well.

Reply September 6, 2014 - edited
lucky5209

@Axnslicer: it's nexon fault for not making sure the game is 100% ok and letting it go online even tho they knew this happen they didn't post any warning on website telling people there's an exploit and tell them not to abuse it cause they will get banned my friend used 1 and gets banned which is kinda unfair cause its ONE what can 1 cube do? Effect the whole maple? While there's people using 30 cubes and gets no ban making bills with the equs they cubed. That's how unfair I see it. Also I told my friend about the exploit but he already used one after that he just afked all day and now he gets ban for that even tho he didn't mean to use the cube

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Axnslicer

[quote=lucky5209]So people I know used 1 to 5 cubes and gets 30 day ban which is kinda a lot for just 5 cubes. While I see people who used 30 cubes still on maple running around free. Where's the logic here? And there's people who exploited the cubes and still didn't get ban, I don't see how fair is nexon banning really.[/quote]

So yeah, to the people who are complaining about being banned, and are protesting with these reasons.

1. You see people who abused the exploit who aren't banned.

If you really can't stand seeing people who used 30+ cubes running around unbanned, feel free to report them so they can get rightfully banned as well. I have no sympathy for anyone for pulls the "Other people who abused this exploit more than me" card, and no one else should either.

2. You didn't know it was an exploit.

First of all, half the people who say this are lying to cover themselves. It's one of the most common reactions when you're caught doing something wrong, to say it wasn't on purpose. If it really wasn't on purpose, you either didn't get banned, or only got a temporary ban. Otherwise, go appeal your ban.

3. Your friends got banned, and they claim they were innocent.

Get new friends who don't abuse exploits.

4. Banning hurts the game population.

We don't need hackers, abusers, and dupers in this game. Nexon was extremely lenient with the bans, and I'm pretty sure that mercy is undeserved in a lot of cases.

Nexon is trying to do their job. You make the game worse by not reporting people who abuse exploits. Something to remember maybe, the next time you complain about Nexon's banning being unfair.

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kaxi

It's nexon

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Sunrain

I know you in scania, you're super Nice

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Bellonoid

Yea a similar situation happened to a friend of mine. He bought and sold over 20bil+ worth of cubes and he's still fine while a guildie who bought 2 cubes off him got perma'd

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Sunrain

poor the people who didn't even know what's going on around and nexon didnt even warn in nexon.net about the glitch ...imagine these people who just saw cheap cubes than usual thinking it was an event or something related, i havent heard anything about exploit in smegas the days of the exploit, rip innocents

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Doutei

well we pretend we only use 1-5 cubes to make it sound sappier.

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