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Max crit vs min crit onyx ring

So which should I get?
Info: F/P class, hit about 35m per line w/ stacked me, obv cap w/ infinity
currently have 150% boss, going to get around 220% or so
100% crit
48% min crit
68% max crit (without hayato or whatever increases this)

Going to replace 9% int tempest ring.

September 25, 2014

13 Comments • Newest first

CherryTigers

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Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
Symphs

[quote=CherryTigers]@duriel123 You're a genius!

..
Or maybe I'm an idiot LOL.[/quote]

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It's okay, Mr. Fluffalo.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
duriel123

[quote=smokennaruto]min crt is the best
u dont need max crit cause min crit will auto increase ur max cit when they are equal[/quote]
I was skeptical at first, but this is actually true even if the difference between your max and min crit is less than 10%

Max crit = a Min crit = b
With 10% Max crit = a+10 Min crit = b AVG crit = (a + b + 10)/2

With 10% min crit however, 2 cases need to be considered.
Assume (a - b) is greater than or equal to 10, then

Max crit = a Min crit = b+10 AVG crit = (a +b +10)/2

Assume (a-b) is between 0 and 10, then

Max crit = b + 10 Min crit = a AVG crit = (a +b + 10)/2

Note that AVG crit is the same in all cases.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
smokennaruto

min crt is the best
u dont need max crit cause min crit will auto increase ur max cit when they are equal

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=TheFinalHero]so its not worth getting the min/max ring b/c im close to capping, yeah?

most my items are 15-18%, i dont have a % shoulder/earring/belt, and some of my items are 9% (dt shoe, badge) but i do have 19% matk emblem and 21% matk 300 matked staff, pretty much a clean shield atm, messed up on cubing.[/quote]

It doesn't stop mattering until you can cap on Magnus with the weakest attack you still use from outside the blue shell. Though by the time you can do that you'll have a LGR anyway.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
CherryTigers

@TheFinalHero

All my gear is legendary for the most part and 21% for the most part.
My emblem is here http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Adventurer_emblem___21__matk_9__total-Items-Screen-230208.html
My weapon is even better.
My shield is prime scrolled and cubed

How are you out damaging me? You have less %boss and less stats than I do. o.o AHHHHHHHH nexon plssssssss

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
UAPaladin

There is no difference between what your average damage boost between min crit and max crit. If you raise either by 10, it'll raise your average crit dmg by 5%, which is all that really matters when calculating dps. Of course, if you're capping, but not 100% of the time, you'll want min crit so you can (at least get closer to) cap every time. If I'm on a non-capping character, I just prefer max crit because I like occasionally seeing higher lines.

Also, you desperately need more %boss. You should aim for a lot higher than 220%, like at least 300%

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
TheFinalHero

[quote=CherryTigers]you hit 35m per line with only 150% boss? You realize if you get more boss, you are likely to come very close to capping.

My fire poison mage, just like yours, lacks %boss. When I switched from 20 to 25% boss nebs and got an additional 25% boss from other resources, my damage went up 10m per line on paralyze.

I was hitting 30m per line and went up to hitting 40m's per line.

My goal right now is to go from my 220% boss to 320% boss. I know for a fact I will almost be capping when I reach that. And if you're hitting 35m per line (assuming CRA boss) you are stronger than me so if I'm close to capping, you will be capping all lines.

I'm really curious. Most all my equips are 18-21% int and I'm hitting less than you. You have a 9% tempest ring. What are your other equips like? O_O[/quote]

so its not worth getting the min/max ring b/c im close to capping, yeah?

most my items are 15-18%, i dont have a % shoulder/earring/belt, and some of my items are 9% (dt shoe, badge) but i do have 19% matk emblem and 21% matk 300 matked staff, pretty much a clean shield atm, messed up on cubing.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=TheFinalHero]So which should I get?
Info: F/P class, hit about 35m per line w/ stacked me, obv cap w/ infinity
currently have 150% boss, going to get around 220% or so
100% crit
48% min crit
68% max crit (without hayato or whatever increases this)

Going to replace 9% int tempest ring.[/quote]
Min crit is almost always better than max crit. The only exceptions involve things like being in the 2hko range and 10% more max crit tipping you over into 1hko range, which clearly doesn't apply in endgame bossing scenarios.

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
CherryTigers

you hit 35m per line with only 150% boss? You realize if you get more boss, you are likely to come very close to capping.

My fire poison mage, just like yours, lacks %boss. When I switched from 20 to 25% boss nebs and got an additional 25% boss from other resources, my damage went up 10m per line on paralyze.

I was hitting 30m per line and went up to hitting 40m's per line.

My goal right now is to go from my 220% boss to 320% boss. I know for a fact I will almost be capping when I reach that. And if you're hitting 35m per line (assuming CRA boss) you are stronger than me so if I'm close to capping, you will be capping all lines.

I'm really curious. Most all my equips are 18-21% int and I'm hitting less than you. You have a 9% tempest ring. What are your other equips like? O_O

Reply September 25, 2014 - edited
Anthorix

i got min crit for more stable crits.

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