General

[quote=i4mwh014m]DON'T MAKE MARKSMAN GUYS WE AREN'T FUN OR STRONG D: D: D: D:

well honestly we are, but I don't like seeing so many everywhere. Some is ok but EVERYWHERE it's getting out of hand[/quote]It'd be understandable if you'd been a marksman since like the release of 4th job like I am, but seeing your name, I doubt that.

I'd Say:

F/P Mage (Mist Explosion)
Cannoneer (Hyper Skill that triples damage lines)
and Hero (Generally have alot of ATK boost skills, and also have access to a Cursed/Liberated Kaiserium)

Shads you already know

@PeachPit: Max level. I have everything maxed except for Arcane Aim (currently 22) and MW (12)

how come Marksman and Bucc considered top, whats so special about the hyper skill?

Nice guys keep going

db
shad
corsair/buccy

Dual Blade any time, all the time

DON'T MAKE MARKSMAN GUYS WE AREN'T FUN OR STRONG D: D: D: D:

well honestly we are, but I don't like seeing so many everywhere. Some is ok but EVERYWHERE it's getting out of hand

[quote=Deadly1337]a bishop can drop any explorer in the top 10 EASILY in pvp. we also have the best survival and necessity in boss runs/training parties, so.. WHOSE THE STRONGEST CLASS?[/quote]

Says the person who get's their mp drained in .05 seconds.

@TheVoid: I usually don't have meteor, and I don't fully charge Big Bang either. I'll check later to see the difference.

@PeachPit: Somewhere around 20k, self-buffed I think.

what happened to corsairs?

1.Marksman
2.Marksman
3.Marksman

With hyper skills, despite the terrible bucc animation, buccs have one of the best, hitting crazy high and minimal cooldown. They are easily in the top 5 adventurers.

Never thought I'd see the day where Bucc is nominated strongest :')

1. Marksman
2. Bowmaster
3. Nightlord

@PeachPit: Even with Infinity I don't hit that much.

@TheVoid: What the heck? What am I doing wrong

I don't really know, but I do think paladin's should be up there. They have the best survivablity for boss runs (dem defenses and that HP recovery during Pot Lock), they have crash and threaten. Imo, they're really under-rated and really strong.

Paladin
Bowmaster
Hero

Shadower
Hero
Buccaneer

Bowmasters

LOLJK

1. shadower
2. night lord
3. fp mage

Hero
Paladin
Dark Knight

Warriors all day every day

Strongest explorer class...

Whichever one has the most funding, and can hit the fastest..

[quote=archusz]marksman
F/P
jett
without hyper
idk what hyper for jett[/quote]

Do Jetts even get a hyper skill? I don't remember seeing anything about.

I love how you guys take that DPM chart as gospel and post the class the with the highest theoretical (keyword: theoretical) DPM. Such naive minds...

Sair
MM
Bucc

1. DB
2. Cannonner
3. Bucc

marksman
F/P
jett
without hyper
idk what hyper for jett

@bowmushro0m: ikr, that guy think he's amazing but he's a tottally cheater its too annoying to vsing with bish because you know they gonna heal theyself

[quote=Iamprophet]Dark knights.....you mean weakest?[/quote]

http://i.imgur.com/hecNt.png

@Saltybandaid: Wait whaaaa. x___x.

Marksman
F/p
Shad

@EatingCrayon: That's strange... I don't even need infinity to damage cap with a 19k range. o_o

@UsoppStyle: burn damage eats through magic guard,
and my phoenix attacks through both the shield and the magic guard.

my phoenix is a 2hit, my burn damage is a one hit. bishops suck xD

@EatingCrayon: well that guy below me said mist eruption and stuff but idk sh** about f/p mages just heard from other ppl

@xkillo32: Even then I still can't hit max.

@EatingCrayon: some1 said something about DoT stacking or something

@Saltybandaid: [url=http://i.imgur.com/QhkW4.png]yep.[/url] Scratch halfway, I meant a third.

EDIT: [url=http://i.imgur.com/MYv7E.png]Screenshot with more crits[/url]

but yeah you get the idea

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=62432&title=Summarized%20%/s%20List

This

Top 3 not in order: Marksman, DualBlade, Bucc. Bucc would be number one but our hyper skills suck >.< >.<

@Deadly1337: fine child you the straight and i just forget the damage on pvp depends on the range so how could i think my frotsprey may kill you with 300k dmg agaisnt your powerfull bahamut, jesus i'm wrong :O

[quote=EatingCrayon]My range is slightly higher than that and I am about halfway there of hitting max per line. What.[/quote]

Are you stacking your DoT? o_o
When my F/p is just using its wand and nothing else, its range is 19k and I can still damage cap with eruption.

OT: (As of now)
1. Hero
2. Shadower
3. Buccaneer

[quote=xkillo32]what happened to f/p mages lol
every1 saying u can hit max with 20k range[/quote]

My range is slightly higher than that and I am about halfway there of hitting max per line. What.

@UsoppStyle: except for our bahamut with the highest base damage of any adventurer summon which in pvp ignores all skills and defences, would deal 30-80% every hit.
our big bang deals massive damage when fully charges, angel ray does solid pvp damage.
we have 3 ways to heal[infinity/heal/magic shield] combined with dispel and doom, i'm still saying we're the strongest .

1. Marksman
2. Hero
3. idk

marksman takes the top at lvl 195

[quote=tonytony40]1.Bucc
2.Shad
3.F/P Mage

Marksman don't get strong till 195, and that's a pretty unrealistic goal for unfunded players.[/quote]

I agree with this one. My unfunded UA CB has been nearly on par with Kaisers at Nett's Pyramid, and Phase Dash only hits 4 mobs. o.o And also if the F/P's aren't lying, then they are hitting max with 13k range with Infinity and max critical...

And also Dual Blades and Sairs are somewhere near this list post-hypers.

@Deadly1337 @UsoppStyle yeah in both versions of PvP bishops hid behind things like heal and holy magic shell which made then a complete hassle to try to kill. They weren't really "strong"per say, they were just built in a way that made it hard for them to be killed. Kinda like paladins. ahhhh this makes me miss PvP even more

OT: (Pre-Hyper Skills)
Bucc
DB
Corsair