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Honest thoughts on Reboot?

Hi everyone, after leaving Scalia and spending about a week in Reboot, I've been wondering how is Reboot going to last long term? Is Reboot going to keep its high population? I'm really curious to hear other's opinions on this matter.

December 24, 2015

40 Comments • Newest first

LShadow3

@sorlilly: Adding on to your point, I find the level of communication on Reboot at least comparable to that I found on Khroa. I would argue that the players on Reboot are less focused on damage; rather, a sense of progression and a goal to work towards without spending NX.

Personally, I love the idea of having a METHOD of improving without spending NX that I will be spending NX on covers and pets, now I know I won't have the temptation of addictive power/cubing with every NX purchase.

Here's a great playlist on MMORPG design: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5CbUOb7kGRGS_g2NcsKhaaM

Especially relevant is the "F2P Monetization" video.

Reply December 27, 2015
SorLilly

@sebasuraaaaa I agree with you.
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I thought Reboot is the easiest world to get high damage ? Don't you know the percentage of maplers who can't even get up to like let's say 200k range minimum. So I believe Reboot will help those, which is a lot of them. Telling them to go back to normal servers to cube. Haha they choose to play in this server because they do not want to spend real $$ on cubing and making them go back to normal servers just ehhhhh.

Even if the server dies it will still be populated than most servers tbh because damage. They want damage than communicating.

Reply December 26, 2015
cephalopod

Really the main problem I have with it is overpopulation (which in itself I don't really mind, but it causes lag and constant DCing as I have sucky ass internet).

Reply December 26, 2015
GarrettsHot

@endurance: yea bro if you've been playing that long and your'e still this ignorant about how the game works that even worse. The game came out in 2005 so I doubt you've been playing since 2002. KMS didnt come out till 2003 either so there you go again with your non sense.
I do play reboot I have a lvl 181 Aran and an 81 Kanna. You obviously don't know anything about the game beyond complaining, just stop posting non sense. Stop being ignorant. No one wants help from someone who has no idea what they are saying. You're bragging about things that aren't impressive at all, just stop.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
LShadow3

I personally will stay, simply for the meso cubes. Despite the botting and temporary population boom (winter break), I think it has significant long term benefits. With the high population and fast queueing, people will stay even for that, imo.

I know quite a few people who will never go back to a regular server.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
sebasurAAAAA

It's the best world for people that's new to the game, it's also a good way to fight hackers since they just level up and get mesos without messing the economy 'cause there is no economy lol. In the end, all of those hackers (number 1 and 2 top players on reboot are hackers, btw) will do nothing but help low level people to kill bosses in order to get equips. There's really no competition here, it's just about fun and group work.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
TerrorFace

I like it a lot because I'd rather buy NX just for cosmetics and such and enjoy the fact that I can just farm a bit of mesos if I need more invo slots, hyper teleport rock, cubes, etc.

I don't see the larger population as a major plus, as most people seem to keep to themselves anyways. lol

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
fradddd

Still annoyed that people are trying so hard to cube and level. I wish people would just treat it casually for once. I still feel like I can't "fall behind", just like on the regular servers, and I thought Reboot was supposed to prevent that.

Other than that it's nice.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
BenGarrison

I made a very good reddit post about it :~)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/3y9qjg/cubes_i_give_up/cybpdy5

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
Ignte

@markred626: Spot ..cking on. But reboot still good tho

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
Sparq

The thing is, what do YOU play Reboot for?

Do you play it competitively to gain %stat and massive 50mil lines? Well then I don't think you, or any other players who try to, are going to get very far. I've seen people buy tons of cubes at a time to get a crappy %notmainstat on their weapon that they just end up dropping and quitting within the first week.

I play Reboot with my friends, do dailies with them and have a fun time all around. I don't give about damage. IMO, if you want big lines then go play on a normal server where you can buy cubes and what not, because then you don't have to waste half your time trying to find a map at MP3 (or bot your way to getting one which even more retarded), buy a load of cubes and end up with some okay-ish unique stat? Hell, if you want massive damage and if you don't want to pay for it then go play on a ps, its even easier.

Before I moved to Reboot, I was in Scania and I was a proud member of the Perpetual guild, and if anything during my time with them, I have learned one thing. If you want to become godly at this game, its rng-based, you're going to have to spend a lot of money, whether it be real life $$ in Scania or ridiculously farmed meso's in Reboot. At the end of the day, getting high damage in this game is just a number on a screen. You see it, you enjoy it... that's it. The experiences you have with other Mapler's, the parties, the boss raids, the banter with guildies; these are the things which last. Even though Perpetual has kind of died, I still talk to my guildies every now and then.

I think, it is because we as Mapler's havent had the experience of co-operative party play that is centered around fun since the days pre-Big Bang. We've been focused on getting better lines, whether it may be on our attacks or our equips. We've gotten used to the inherent feeling that everything revolves around damage in Maplestory. I was like that too, but Perpetual helped me see that there was more to Maple than just %atk.

I also believe that that is what the Reboot world offers, a place where things like friendship and companionship are greater than things like attack and damage. Idk, its only my opinion; its not a fact.

*PS, tbh it was kinda that all my guildies gave up on damage since it was getting pointless. I dont think any of them had 2m-2m clean though...we usually just talked about stuff.. lol. Even in my current guild, Respite in the Reboot Alliance, we level and boss but the alliance chat is the first thing I look to, not Horntails HP bar.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
markred626

@endurance you said 800 people in hene are u high or what? also i do agree with what @garrettshot said you sometimes make up stuff like nerfed cubes royals without proof and is like weird af so idk also and for last but not less important nobody give 5 tacos if you play maple since 1999 or are beta player so stop bragging about and what you have 3 chars 200+ in reboot? where exp is much better lol if you have this attitude in real life highly doubt you got any friend.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
SilverFoxR

@someyounguy: Exactly. You don't need to buy NX, you don't need to have the perfect min-maxed, overfunded character. You can get by just fine on your own. But for some stupid reason, people think that Reboot is the solution to their problems... when all you have to do is just ignore the Cash Shop, make a character and play it with whatever you earn on your own. That's what makes Reboot so pointless - the option was already there... but people were just too greedy.

Kind of ironic that those who complain about Maple and praise the new Reboot server are made up of people who made the game the way it was that they didn't like.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
someyounguy

@silverfoxr: You don't have to play unfunded if you don't buy NX. I've paid nothing irl to get gear. The difference being is that I am more patient than others. You can get good things without spending horrendous amounts of money on NX to cube stuff although I do agree with you that reboot is way overhyped.

On topic, it's a pain in the ass to play an overpopulated server full of people who don't know etiquette. You still have to spend tons of time to get anything of substantial value. Also, a pet is a must have item to meso loot as self looting takes years to pick since nexon likes to make picking up stuff manually ridiculously slow. So essentially, you still pay to win to an extent. Good luck KSing people and looting mesos at the same time without a pet on a laggy server.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
SilverFoxR

I think the concept of the Reboot server to be hillarious... people tout it's praises, acting like the other servers are trash by comparison, because Reboot isn't "Pay 2 Win"... and yet, though all Reboot World is doing is forcing you to not buy things and earn them with your own time and effort...

WHICH YOU CAN DO IN ALL THE OTHER SERVERS BY SIMPLY CHOOSING TO PLAY UNFUNDED!

Reboot is pretty much enforcing a promise to play unfunded. You can easily do that on your own in any server. Yet people act like they're forcing you to spend NX (which I remind you us COMPLETELY OPTIONAL) and fund your character to heck.

The only other changes are minor... takes longer to kill enemies, monsters do more damage (so, essentially, grinding is more tedious and you burn pots more) and you cannot pool together your account's resources. So, find some throwing stars and chuck 'em in the sewer, even though you have an Assassin in the server too.

It's a joke... mainly because it's the way many people have played Maple for years... and yet it seems like it's a "brilliant" addition.

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
SorLilly

@endurance Is mp3 always like 15-20 people per channel? So that means I can only have like lets say half on a platform or something xD but some people told me a lot of botters/hackers there so it's really hard to farm money?

Reply December 26, 2015 - edited
Endurance

@garrettshot: "Your'e not helping anyone by spouting out nonsense, play the game longer before you try to sound experienced."

I've been on maplestory since 2002, i'm one of a few people from Beta that STILL play maplestory, I KNOW THIS GAME.

"Again, I'm not talking about reboot or this particular thread. I play reboot too and your'e exaggerating/venting a lot, but your not exactly wrong in this case."

Now who's exaggerating? The lag is real! You do NOT play on Reboot. sooo don't speak on stuff you don't know about or haven't experienced.

"Now I'll go to sleep. Merry Christmas, maybe you'll learn to do more research before you post nonsense. Your'e Welcome."

bye don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
SadVirgin

http://imgur.com/KBhhbcl

The idea of the server is nice, I just personally realized that I don't have time, nor patience, to deal with the consequences of a high population server anymore (ie; noticeable hackers/botters, drama, waiting times to dailies). Especially not with Nexon still being Nexon.
It's not actually that hard to get free cubes in the regular servers either.

I think the hype will die down a little but still remain popular just because it's different from the rest of the servers, and will still draw a lot of people there for a change of pace.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
GarrettsHot

@endurance: yea dude, I'm not talking about this particular thread. I already said "although hes not completely wrong in this case" in my first post. I'm saying over all your posts, almost all of them are complete nonsense that you came up with on the spot to sound like you know what your'e talking about, or complete ignorance. I would gladly like to blacklist you and never have to read your ignorant comments, but I end up reading comments before seeing who posted them.

Every time I read a comment and think to myself, "what the eff is this guy talking about?" I see that its from you and I'm just like, "hoooooollyyyy shjt, not this idiot again." This is why I finally called you out again, as you didn't reply last time.

Your'e not helping anyone by spouting out nonsense, play the game longer before you try to sound experienced.

Again, I'm not talking about reboot or this particular thread. I play reboot too and your'e exaggerating/venting a lot, but your not exactly wrong in this case.

Now I'll go to sleep. Merry Christmas, maybe you'll learn to do more research before you post nonsense. Your'e Welcome.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
Endurance

@garrettshot: if you don't like the comments i leave in the topics, you don't have to read it. I aim to help people on Reboot server. i've abandoned scania and i don't care about the other servers anymore

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
GarrettsHot

@endurance: not trolling bro, I've been reading your ignorant posts for what feels like a year, and called you out on it before, you prove it every post.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
Endurance

@garrettshot: are you anybody relevant? nope you're a nobody.

a) I play on reboot
b) I'm 200+ (3rd 200+ character ftw)
c) I've farmed all those bosses on my own SOLO, i've experienced everything there is about reboot and the lag
d) once again you're a nobody, stick to khaini where the gameplay is easy.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
GarrettsHot

@sorlilly : dont listen to anything endurance says, he types out of his ass, not that hes completely wrong in this case, but super exagerrated and always trying to sound like he knows what hes talking about when he doesnt.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
SorLilly

@endurance "- Think you're killing bosses on Reboot? nah sit back and wait in line like everyone else because EVERY channel is full and you need tracks and godly clickin to get in.. soon as u get into the horntail waiting area you d/c because its so crowded, and you have over 50 ~ 60 ppl standing on the portal at Ranmaru, theres absolutely no way you're getting in without hacks"
"- KS wars day and night on Reboot"
"- Mysterious Path 3 is never empty, you will always have avg 5 ~ 15 people on one map per channel"

I love everything from what you wrote but especially these haha xD I think it's true for mp3 because that's the best spot to farm mesos right ? and I don't think there's such thing called KS wars in MP3 especially because there are only that many channels and there is no way to go like let's say a dungeon like before. So everyone just stand at one spot and spam their skill and have their pets loot. That way mesos would obtained more rapidly since monsters die and spawn so quick xD

OT: Hell ... I want to go Reboot but all these people creep me out. But I think this server won't die that fast, I mean at least it's going to be one of the 5 top populated servers simply because there are so many people who do not want to pay real money to buy cubes. Therefore, they will just stay in Reboot and give it a year or 2, we might possibly see RA stuff. I mean just imagine how many cubes they can buy per day. If I can move my char there I would hit cap in no time lol.

Sure there are less nx items there but it's okay to use those that in the cash shop and they probably like damage more so Reboot won't die.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
LudaLaLuna

At first I loved Reboot. My mind quickly changed after all those ugly ks wars and everybody being a selfish prick.

All meso farming maps are always packed with people. Even when there are already 5 people in a very small map people will always force themselves into the map and ks everybody. Either by just putting up their macros and afhking or just trying to steal your spot away from you.

MP3 is full with botters. Wolf Spiders is full with hackers. Northern is full with ksing demon slayers. And what is Nexon doing? Absolutely nothing.

And some guilds are just simply awful. It's like VenGeanCe all over again. Bragging about killing certain bosses and being really powerful. Yeah, I'd be powerful too if I set up macros(and sometimes even hacks) 24/7 at MP3.

I hope this world dies out soon.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
Jaffah

@abi232: basically the only thing stopping me from playing there

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
lightxtc

Made it to level 80 with just a few hours of screwing around. I think its great to see MS so full, I hated how this game became a ghost town over the years.

Reply December 25, 2015 - edited
abi232

i dont like reboot cause theres no cute nx

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
Endurance

lets see..

- KS wars day and night on Reboot
- Mysterious Path 3 is never empty, you will always have avg 5 ~ 15 people on one map per channel
- Smega junkies spamming chat nearly 24/7
- when you die you lose 10% regardless of what guild skills, or traits you have reducing it.. (charms excluded)
- Waaaaaaay easier to obtain & cube stuff
- Henesys is a ghost town on Scania with roughly 30 ~ 40 ppl on the map, on Reboot henesys got over 800 ppl talkin to eachother and running around on a daily basis
- Think you're killing bosses on Reboot? nah sit back and wait in line like everyone else because EVERY channel is full and you need tracks and godly clickin to get in.. soon as u get into the horntail waiting area you d/c because its so crowded, and you have over 50 ~ 60 ppl standing on the portal at Ranmaru, theres absolutely no way you're getting in without hacks

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
GekkeGerrit

I think it great. You can actually buy Mastery Books by mesos making just with training. Huge for the poor ones amongst us !

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
Niten

It will die down but I can see quite a few people saying, probably 75% of the world staying, just a random guess.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
keyan22

I don't really like it, i'd say it'll die eventually like supreme world.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
RagerRaging

Population is only this high due to it being new and for nearly all schools being on winter break. When the next patch hits i'm more than certain the popularity will die down at least by 50%, as it has in the past with other patches.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
Rogue

I give it a couple more months, then it will die down a lot.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
zilliro

i'm kinda interested in its future mainly because i want to know what people value in their mmo experience.
also i want to see how people, over the course of the coming months, deal with reboot getting less attention than the main servers.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
aranacc

@mintychalk I think it could last a while for me but one thing I do not like is playing on a deserted server. I made this thread to see other opinions on if reboot will last. I'm not asking you guys to make a decision for me.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited
mintychalk

Think about how it's going to do long term for yourself and how you'll enjoy it.

Reply December 24, 2015 - edited