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Bkb isnt 7 and 5, it is 2 and 5yup

http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/kmst-ver-1-2-454-november-update-new-thief-resistance-automata/

Yup...BKB hits 2 and 5, not 7 and 5.
*Really feels like we got aran'd now*

November 10, 2012

16 Comments • Newest first

AvidReader

[quote=Mystelteinn]Since it's 400% and FB is 180% atm, meaning it's 2,22 times stronger (in terms of %), meaning someone already hitting cap would be hitting 2.2m If not more, since cap was a hindrance for cap hitting people. I'd say it's probably plausible for people like @j1mm13valadez .

Heck, with Battle rage annd BB, i'm gonna be hitting cap, so I'd be close to that on BKB (2.2m or so), and my BB range is ''only'' (everything is relative) 210K.[/quote]

If his BB'ed range is somewhere in the 600k's I can def see him capping on all hits, and that's not even considering the boss% he has. And with Battle rage, its all over *A*

Reply November 11, 2012
Mystelteinn

[quote=Cthulhusama]Actually if you can hit the dmg cap on BKB (I doubt any BaM can yet but possibly) it is 3.5X more dmg than FB.[/quote]

Since it's 400% and FB is 180% atm, meaning it's 2,22 times stronger (in terms of %), meaning someone already hitting cap would be hitting 2.2m If not more, since cap was a hindrance for cap hitting people. I'd say it's probably plausible for people like @j1mm13valadez .

Heck, with Battle rage annd BB, i'm gonna be hitting cap, so I'd be close to that on BKB (2.2m or so), and my BB range is ''only'' (everything is relative) 210K.

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
Cthulhusama

Somewhat disappointed by this but to be fair that just means BKB is now only 2.33X better than FB rather than 4X. So I can't really say anything bad about it. Actually if you can hit the dmg cap on BKB (I doubt any BaM can yet but possibly) it is 3.5X more dmg than FB. It's still an awesome skill and the animation looks basically like how I always said Dark Genesis should have been for us. D.Gen seems like their attempt to make us look more like mages by giving us an ultimate and it doesn't really fit in with our class at all. This skill does.

Aesthetically it fits perfectly with everything that being a BaM is all about: Whacking monsters with our giant sticks!

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
Mystelteinn

[quote=rhp951]dont know why that would be op, other classes have multi hit skills that arent hyper skills that do alot of damage too, easton comes to mind
hopefully when this comes to official kms, and not just tespia we'll see the 7 hits[/quote]

Easton is capped at 999K per hit and attacks nowhere near as fast as updated FB and BK.

Not complaining or anything, i can't wait for these upgrades. Just pointing out the obvious.

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
FalenXangel

[quote=LittleTLK]
Final Attack could indeed trigger on both parts of BKB.
However, the reason there are two hits into of one big one is likely an aesthetic one, because the animation consists of swinging the staff horizontally and then up, around and back down, exploding on impact, so the two hits is to try and match up with that animation.[/quote]

seems like that's the case; the animation's really much too fast though

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
LittleTLK

@AvidReader:

Yeah. 12 hits would have been nice. I'm a bit disappointed, too, but the skill is still awesome enough that I'm hyped for it.

@FalenXangel:

Final Attack could indeed trigger on both parts of BKB.
However, the reason there are two hits into of one big one is likely an aesthetic one, because the animation consists of swinging the staff horizontally and then up, around and back down, exploding on impact, so the two hits is to try and match up with that animation.

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
FalenXangel

[quote=yoyobrains0]Also I don't understand why it's 2 lines of 400% and then 5 lines of 400%. If they are both 400% damage, then why bother splitting it up into 2 different hits? Might as well just make it 7 lines of 400% in 1 hit. It would be faster, anyway. Is it nexon's attempt at trying to update a class without making it super OP?[/quote]

not 100% sure but if "The Finisher" (original finisher that gets turned into a final attack) activates per cast and not per attack (as usual), then it would be twice as efficient with 2 casts (considering BKB is 2 separate casts of 2 hits + 5 hits)?

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
yoyobrains0

Also I don't understand why it's 2 lines of 400% and then 5 lines of 400%. If they are both 400% damage, then why bother splitting it up into 2 different hits? Might as well just make it 7 lines of 400% in 1 hit. It would be faster, anyway. Is it nexon's attempt at trying to update a class without making it super OP?

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
AvidReader

[quote=LittleTLK]If we got all those dark shock buffs right now, our current FB would still outdamage it because of the horrendous skill delay of dark shock.
You can get in 2 FBs during a single dark shock.

360% x 6 compared to 480% x 4 (after all buffs including max dark gene).

And as for the typo...it's still a great attack. it's 400%. That's twice our FB. It's the same as a little more than 2 FBs during about the same time it takes to use one FB + increased damage cap (which won't matter to the majority of the community, but will definitely be a plus to some of us), and twice the horizontal and vertical range.

It's still a wonderful skill that I'm really looking forward to.[/quote]

LOL yea I know, I was joking about the Dark Shock thing, but yea, I'm a bit disappointed after getting caught up in the hype LOL

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
LittleTLK

[quote=pagegoesboom]Besides max damage people,
I feel that it'll help train those who are not so strong. Yes our DPS won't be that great. But having this will be much better than using The Finisher.[/quote]

This increases our DPM by nearly 60%. I don't think it's anything in which to attach caviets.

Reply November 11, 2012 - edited
LittleTLK

[quote=AvidReader]Yea but its disappointing to have thought that max dps (if the whole skill took 1200ms) was something like 40m/s and see it drop down to about 29m/s. Those dark shock buffs are lookin' real nice right now </3[/quote]

If we got all those dark shock buffs right now, our current FB would still outdamage it because of the horrendous skill delay of dark shock.
You can get in 2 FBs during a single dark shock.

360% x 6 compared to 480% x 4 (after all buffs including max dark gene).

And as for the typo...it's still a great attack. it's 400%. That's twice our FB. It's the same as a little more than 2 FBs during about the same time it takes to use one FB + increased damage cap (which won't matter to the majority of the community, but will definitely be a plus to some of us), and twice the horizontal and vertical range.

It's still a wonderful skill that I'm really looking forward to.

Reply November 10, 2012 - edited
Psydei

yep^
p2s-.-

Reply November 10, 2012 - edited
AvidReader

[quote=yoyobrains0]come on guys 7 lines is still great.[/quote]

Yea but its disappointing to have thought that max dps (if the whole skill took 1200ms) was something like 40m/s and see it drop down to about 29m/s. Those dark shock buffs are lookin' real nice right now </3

Reply November 10, 2012 - edited
yoyobrains0

come on guys 7 lines is still great.

Reply November 10, 2012 - edited
AvidReader

[quote=Psydei]This thread made me sad :c[/quote]

me too T_T

Reply November 10, 2012 - edited
Psydei

This thread made me sad :c

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