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[quote=larryd23]Bankrupt or not, the game that many of us loved to play is dying a slow and painful death. I haven't played in 3 or 4 years, but I check in every now and again hoping for some improvement. So far I haven't seen any. I certainly miss those sleepless nights grinding away with my guildies. Sorry that new players won't get to enjoy that comraderie.[/quote]

I agree with this, but at the same time I no longer have the time to do that anymore.
So it is convenient for me to have certain changes in the game. I would like to see
EvoLab go away though. Not really sure how I want to put it, but I wish it was more
of a grind again just maybe with the current exp rate for a little faster improvement.
Which can still be time consuming which is fine to me.

The best change though was those boat rides lol. I would revert it all back if it meant
I could keep them days behind me. (Even if it was good for meeting new people).

The Big Bang update was bad for me, and then they also killed thief gameplay style when they got rid of Drain - that was too much of a game-changer for me, with also the whole change to how you had to enter a separate room for bosses (like how it is with the Mystic Gates these days).
That said, it improved a lot from the low of when I 'went away' to now having 'come back' - it's enjoyable again now.
What I do not like though is the total overhaul of equips with x% this, y% that, it pretty much leaves things it all a big mystery as to what the heck is actually now seen as anything like approaching a decent bit of kit that you can't just npc. Less but better (more valuable) drops was better, I preferred that, when getting a drop at all was a 'yay!' moment.

[quote=KyuuKyuuMoar]@Pavchka: It was absolutely necessary and not silly at all, I got my recent NX from merchants in the FM, and my skin/hair/face from MTS NX back in 2011. Legit NX baby (and I'm not saying I've never bought NX, because I have; just nowhere NEAR as much as "professional cubers" have)[/quote]

Right, Full Mod Mode on: remember rule #1. My previous comment was a reminder; this comment is a warning. Calling people idiots is not allowed as per rule #1. If you refer to people with that word again, no matter how "necessary" that may be, you will receive a suspension.
If you disagree with rule #1 you'll have to take it up with MrBasil.

[url=http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/05/09/maplestory-announces-over-92-million-users-worldwide-4-year-ann/]from 92million users worldwide to this[/url] [quote=website]Amount of players online at the moment 23,695 (12 players have left since Sat 10 May 2014 at 05:24:29)[/quote] is quite sad

@Pavchka: It was absolutely necessary and not silly at all, I got my recent NX from merchants in the FM, and my skin/hair/face from MTS NX back in 2011. Legit NX baby (and I'm not saying I've never bought NX, because I have; just nowhere NEAR as much as "professional cubers" have)

[quote=DiuMeHarder]@BobR: lol ok that would mean either main nexon makes changes OR gives up on gms. they will prob scrap gms if they did have the make that decision lol RIP GMS[/quote]

As long as GMS is bringing in a positive cash flow we can be pretty sure it'll continue, even if it's bringing in less than it used to.
I don't know if they'll want to put any more time and money into trying to improve things any though, it feels like they've pretty much given up on that end.

@BobR: lol ok that would mean either main nexon makes changes OR gives up on gms. they will prob scrap gms if they did have the make that decision lol RIP GMS

[quote=lazershock]That said, I'm also curious as to why alot of people originally quit (I don't play much myself these days due to lack of stuff to do, mostly go on for events and the like) was it just the lack of content, the pay2win, what?[/quote]

Nexon never seemed to be able to figure out what North American players wanted in a game, and have fumbled a good many things because of that.
One thing that occurred to me soon after starting playing Maplestory was that Koreans must enjoy sitting around talking to other people they don't necessarily know, for long periods of time, such as the 20 minutes it took to get from Maple Island to Ludibrium (this was years ago, pre-BB). American players never seemed to take very well to that kind of thing (like sitting around for 5 minutes for the elevator to KFT to come). Maybe it's a cultural thing, but Nexon never seemed to be able to figure out what players here were all about. Things like that of course wouldn't break the game totally, but it just indicates their blind spot for what would really appeal to the player base here.

The new CEO of Nexon NA (yes, they have a new CEO, Min Kim is out) said something about that problem in an article introducing him as the new head.
And what did he say American players really want..? Tattoos.
(And it sounded like he was serious.)
Give American players tattoos and they'll flock back to Maplestory.
I wonder how long he'll last.

But the biggest factor leading to the death of the game has to be Nexon's decision to monetize the game relentlessly as its first priority, and relegate game design and playability to a distant last on their list of "things to do" for the game. This happened right about the time of the "Big Bang".
They almost seem desperate to suck every last dollar out of what they know is a dying game, thus the sharp increase in costly Cash Shop items to enhance player characters and items, and changing the feel of the game from a cooperative RPG into a cubefest for individual players trying to achieve the most damage.
Apparently none of this appealed to a great many players, who have gone away to find other games to play.

[quote=lazershock]Which is an interesting thing, I wonder why its JUST us. The other playerbases seem to be RELATIVELY content (they must be if the other divisions of Nexon are doing well)

That said, I'm also curious as to why alot of people originally quit (I don't play much myself these days due to lack of stuff to do, mostly go on for events and the like) was it just the lack of content, the pay2win, what?[/quote]

What made me quit was the unleashed patch. With that one, they basically grabbed a giant hammer, and smashed it into the game. I took a looong break, then eventually came back because of the nostalgia from 2010.

Yup you gotta remember Maple ain't Nexons only game of income. Although it is a good part it's still dwindling slowly but surely.

[quote=BobR]Nexon NA earnings have been down the last several years. The rest of Nexon worldwide is doing quite well, but GMS is on a downward spiral.[/quote]

Which is an interesting thing, I wonder why its JUST us. The other playerbases seem to be RELATIVELY content (they must be if the other divisions of Nexon are doing well)

That said, I'm also curious as to why alot of people originally quit (I don't play much myself these days due to lack of stuff to do, mostly go on for events and the like) was it just the lack of content, the pay2win, what?

[quote=DiuMeHarder]is it good or bad f3 ?[/quote]

Nexon NA earnings have been down the last several years. The rest of Nexon worldwide is doing quite well, but GMS is on a downward spiral.

Dang, I know Minecraft servers with more people than this, and to think the peak was 136,000.

[quote=BobR]Have you seen the Nexon quarterly reports lately..?
Make sure you're sitting down if you look them up.[/quote]

is it good or bad f3 ?

[quote=KyuuKyuuMoar]Exactly. This stupid game has lost the support of tens of thousands of players over the years, but not to worry! The few thousand that it still has is willing to hit up dat parental credit card and buy some big cubes.

How can you possibly go bankrupt with an army of idiots funding you? It's an ingenious plan by Nexon.[/quote]

Be careful of rule #1. You're right about Nexon still having a loyal, paying userbase, but referring to NXers as "an army of idiots" wasn't necessary and maybe even a little silly given the looks of your character. :X

[quote=Like]I honestly don't see Nexon America going bankrupt anytime soon. They seem to be doing fine, money wise.[/quote]

Have you seen the Nexon quarterly reports lately..?
Make sure you're sitting down if you look them up.

Bankrupt or not, the game that many of us loved to play is dying a slow and painful death. I haven't played in 3 or 4 years, but I check in every now and again hoping for some improvement. So far I haven't seen any. I certainly miss those sleepless nights grinding away with my guildies. Sorry that new players won't get to enjoy that comraderie.

Also, it's 4:30am-7:30am in the US depending on where you live, and people are still in school/taking finals around now, so ofc the population is low right now. Later today it'll probably go up to like 20k+ and once people get out of school it'll go up a lot more

[quote=PandaBurr]Would be very interesting to see these numbers compared with players active durring 2006 time frame. All it would take is one competent person working at nexon to suggest a rewind server. Many players would return.[/quote]

Whether it'd be short or long term is the question

Would be very interesting to see these numbers compared with players active durring 2006 time frame. All it would take is one competent person working at nexon to suggest a rewind server. Many players would return.

[quote=QuackOutLoud]lt's not going to go bankrupt because a good number of those 15000 players each dump thousands of dollars into this game.[/quote]

Exactly. This stupid game has lost the support of tens of thousands of players over the years, but not to worry! The few thousand that it still has is willing to hit up dat parental credit card and buy some big cubes.

How can you possibly go bankrupt with an army of idiots funding you? It's an ingenious plan by Nexon.

this such small number of people is probably caused by evolab
that imo ruined the game

funny how this game still generates millions

lt's not going to go bankrupt because a good number of those 15000 players each dump thousands of dollars into this game.