GODLY horntail pendant
so i have a 21% dex horntail pendant, which i was originally planning on transfering to my mech on zenith. Problem is iv ebeen lvling faster then i expected so ill be going to horntail next week. at this point i just want to sell it so i was hoping to get a price check.
stats are
7 str
8 dex
8 int
7 luk
3lined unique
9% dex
6% dex
6% dex
If you're wondering why it is uneged... i got kicked from my guild when zenith came out due to inactivity and i never bothered getting into a new guild just for an egg. frankly i figure the egg shouldnt be a problem anyway bcuz the people who can afford this can most likely ht themselves.
March 7, 2011
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How much would a 22 stat 21 % dex htp go for then?
A 24% dex htp is worth around 4bil, and this is egged. So in no way would it be over 3.5bil, because usually perfect 21% items are in the 3b area. Also, Nexon has looked into the potential wiping problem from server transfers and it was been fixed, so no worries.
[quote=iinstantlove]@c0jeffc0: First, getting 250 bonus dex is impossible. (Without potential of course)
Average would be only around 100. 40Chtp(8 for this Htp), 30Helm, 20Overall, 10Rings unless you scroll shoes/glove/cape/belt with dex ...
21% Of 1067 ( 999+68 ) is 224.
You don't do 2500x0.21 because 1/2 of that is from potential.
12% Of 1067 ( 999+68 ) is 128 but you also get a 32x2.12 bonus w/ chtp. That's about 30Dex less than using HTP.
So I was wrong, a 3atk would = 21% 8 Dex Htp, but 15% 2att > That.[/quote]
I have 216 bonus dex from equips before factoring in my potentials. I wouldn't say 250 is impossible.
yea. pots r reset on world xfer
[quote=kimchijiggae]@Joopiex3:
Potential that adds % is calculated by;
Base > Additional Stats > MW > Potential %[/quote]
I'm sure that MW is only calculated of your base stats only :o.
But thanks for confirming that potential % comes last. :]
[quote=bdah]I thought the two 6% dex's don't stack? Or has that already been pointed out/explained?[/quote]
Lol, this reminds me of a time someone told me my old 6% all stat, 6% str, 6% str sword earrings were only 6% all stat because the stats don't stack :x.
I have a question.
I've always come to assume that % from equips are added on after base+mw+scrolled stats.
Is this true? What I mean is like
say 800 base, +120 from equips, and then +80 from mw20. =1200 total
so say I have 100% stat.
Does that mean It'll take all add on +1200? So in total 800(+120+80+1200) will reflect my overall stat addition?
Can you repeat the egg quest?
15% Dex egged HTP is around 1.8-max mesos. 21% I'd say is 3.5-4b.
thanks again everyone who posted, i decided im going to egg and i got a buyer who wants it for 4bill so im just going to go with that.
I'm going to estimate that the 21% dex HTP is around 3.5-4 bil. You should egg it though, would make it more pleasing to the eye of buyers, aswell as get it off their chest of doing it themselves.
@above It's %dmg that doesn't stack, not %atk.
And %PDR ignore doesn't stack either.
OT: Try to get it egged then it'll be worth... 2x max mesos?
[quote=bdah]I thought the two 6% dex's don't stack? Or has that already been pointed out/explained?[/quote]
It does stack. Otherwise 21% stat items would be worth the same as 15% stat items. The only thing that doesn't stack is 30% boss damage, and I believe total attack %. In any case, for the TS, I think you'd best ask around in your own server, because the P/Cs that you get depend on the server. For instance, in Scania, the amount of mesos you could get from it are probably double or triple what you could get from a newer server (self explanatory). Try an item mega to get some offers, or put it up in your store with a L/N/O message.
@Prose: i just took some examples U can get much more, if u maker everything with +5dex
theres a 7x all stat 21% luk in scania
[quote=bdah]I thought the two 6% dex's don't stack? Or has that already been pointed out/explained?[/quote]
they do
@instant love yea i was incorrect about the potetial %'s stacking but still consider this
23 dex 21% dex htp on 1000 dex is 1237 (if i egg it)
40 dex 15% dex chtp on 1000 dex is 1196 + 2 wep att still doesnt beat it
also the more bonus dex there is the farther the gap.
now im not saying a htp is better then a chtp.. im saying mine is better then a 15% dex chtp and the next step up is 21% dex on that chtp
therefore my pendant is better then most chtp's because there is no such thing as a UNIQUE 16-17-18-19 or 20% dex chtp (unless you can get 3 all stat 6% which i dont think is posible)
go egg it son
[quote=c0jeffc0]
stats are
7 str
8 dex
8 int
7 luk
3lined unique
9% dex
6% dex
[b]6% dex[/b][/quote]
I thought the two 6% dex's don't stack? Or has that already been pointed out/explained?
[quote=iinstantlove]@c0jeffc0: First, getting 250 bonus dex is impossible. (Without potential of course)
Average would be only around 100. 40Chtp(8 for this Htp), 30Helm, 20Overall, 10Rings unless you scroll shoes/glove/cape/belt with dex ...
21% Of 1067 ( 999+68 ) is 224.
You don't do 2500x0.21 because 1/2 of that is from potential.
12% Of 1067 ( 999+68 ) is 128 but you also get a 32x2.12 bonus w/ chtp. That's about 30Dex less than using HTP.
So I was wrong, a 3atk would = 21% 8 Dex Htp, but 15% 2att > That.[/quote]
its not impossible
75dex overall. (15clean, +60)
40chtp
21dex shoes
15dex gloves
9dex face.
6dex glasses.
15dex belt
40dex czak
21dex cape
8dex (4) rings
9dex from gun (if u assume its an sair)
=259dex, without potentials.
Its hard, yes. But not impossible
@iinstantlove: yea, i see your point, however, what i am getting at, is whoever buys that pendant is or has to be above average.
[quote=iinstantlove]@c0jeffc0: First, getting 250 bonus dex is impossible. (Without potential of course)
Average would be only around 100. 40Chtp(8 for this Htp), 30Helm, 20Overall, 10Rings unless you scroll shoes/glove/cape/belt with dex ...
21% Of 1067 ( 999+68 ) is 224.
You don't do 2500x0.21 because 1/2 of that is from potential.
12% Of 1067 ( 999+68 ) is 128 but you also get a 32x2.12 bonus w/ chtp. That's about 30Dex less than using HTP.
So I was wrong, a 3atk would = 21% 8 Dex Htp, but 15% 2att > That.[/quote]
where there is a will, there is a way. i am not funded as many, but i got 100 dex without scrolling my zak helm, and no HTP
[quote=xgrip2k5]Lol you guys are sensitive as hell I wasnt trying to atk or flame anyone sry I missed the "some" party jesus[/quote]
lol its all good man i appreciate any constructive comments in my thread
Off to class now BIG THANKS to everyone who posted and helped me out.
Lol you guys are sensitive as hell... I wasnt trying to atk or flame anyone sry I missed the "some" part jesus...just stating ive had many friend xfer just fine...ive also never heard about pots being wiped but dang w.e
[quote=xgrip2k5]Not true at all...ive had many friends fund characters in other worlds then xfer their eqps[/quote]
and that does nothing to disprove the validity of his argument now does it.
Many of your friends = some people of maple world, meaning that some people are left over that you don't know about, and it could be possible that what the grey blob said is correct, so instead of calling out not true, and making him look like a liar, either present your point of view without attacking someone, or just keep it to yourself.
[quote=xgrip2k5]Not true at all...ive had many friends fund characters in other worlds then xfer their eqps[/quote]
i did some research it was true for some galicia players when potentials first came out or something, but its since been fixed and the items were restored.
[quote=CrzyIcE]just a precaution but I read from some people who got their potential items wiped after transferring to another server[/quote]
Not true at all...ive had many friends fund characters in other worlds then xfer their eqps
[quote=darkspawn980]an agument won't get the thread closed, however, if we start flaming each other and calling names, then there will be a lock, as long as we keep it civilized, no thread is getting locked (unless some mod decides to be mean and locks the thread just because you already got your P/C)
i don't mind providing proof, i would just need to find the equips to prove it, but i can guarantee it works like that, i have class in a while, so if you'd rather have the proof, it will be in about 5 hours.[/quote]
im at school right now in our internet cafe to bad the only gaming port that is blocked is the one maple uses.... im actually beginning to doubt myself and going to do some experiments as soon as i get home.
EDIT: @geminidawn would it be a good idea for me to egg it then i guess i could if i make enough profit. im going to have to pay for the run since im guildess now, would the extra profit from egging even be worth it?
[quote=c0jeffc0]no dude not each potential stat of an item. each item! the htp would only add 21%. the % effect the overall stat not just the base+ equip bonus.
as far as i was aware.. i guess you could be right and i dont want to start an argument and get the thread closed. i dont have proof of my side so unless you can provide proof to urs lets just agree to disagree for now. at any rate thanks for the tip and i will take that into account in the future and try to find out for certain.[/quote]
an agument won't get the thread closed, however, if we start flaming each other and calling names, then there will be a lock, as long as we keep it civilized, no thread is getting locked (unless some mod decides to be mean and locks the thread just because you already got your P/C)
i don't mind providing proof, i would just need to find the equips to prove it, but i can guarantee it works like that, i have class in a while, so if you'd rather have the proof, it will be in about 5 hours.
[quote=darkspawn980]@c0jeffc0: unfortunately it doesn't work like that, the formula is:
[(base*MW)+Static additions]*sum of potential%
if it were like that, your HTP wouldn't give21%, it would give 9*6*6%[/quote]
no dude not each potential stat of an item. each item! the htp would only add 21%. the % effect the overall stat not just the base+ equip bonus.
as far as i was aware.. i guess you could be right and i dont want to start an argument and get the thread closed. i dont have proof of my side so unless you can provide proof to urs lets just agree to disagree for now. at any rate thanks for the tip and i will take that into account in the future and try to find out for certain.
@c0jeffc0: unfortunately it doesn't work like that, the formula is:
[(base*MW)+Static additions]*sum of potential%
if it were like that, your HTP wouldn't give21%, it would give 9*6*6%
[quote=darkspawn980]999+250 (let's go with a thousand) 1250
1250*112%=2650
1250*121%=2762
assuming, let's say 150 attack and 152 w.attk
attack*(dex*4)
152*2650*4=1611200
150*2762*4=1657200
and assuming 200 and 202 w.attk
2141200
2209600
so yes, the HTP would be better, however, having 12%dex on a chtp is kind of :S, you would expect around 15% minimum, for someone who can cough up these amounts of money. CHTP would be better before a certain w.attk is reached, but the math you used for the %dex was wrong, the difference isn't nearly as big as you made it out to be.[/quote]
no dude % stacks based upon items
for instance fine the bowmaster has 1000 dex
add 10% for helm
1100 +10% for overall
1210 +10% for shoes
1331 etc... yes my math was incorrect aswell to a degree but only because the gap would be even greater then i stated. probably an additional 100 dex
@gymleader yes i do know people in fact you dont have to worry about that. im not 100% they will take me at 150 as just a looter, but i can guarantee they will take me when i am 160 as an attacker.
[quote=c0jeffc0]lets break down ur statement. lets take for instance a lvl 200 bowmaster with 999 base dex for arguements sake. now lets add his equipment boosts. lets say 250 is generous. now double that bcuz of the 100% dex. so now he has 2500... now lets add another 12% from that chtp that is 2700. Now scratch that chtp and well add 21% instead thats 3025 dex, now your going to tell me that a measly 2 wep attack beats an additional 325 dex? -20ish bcuz htp can only have 2x dex[/quote]
999+250 (let's go with a thousand) 1250
1250*112%=2650
1250*121%=2762
assuming, let's say 150 attack and 152 w.attk
attack*(dex*4)
152*2650*4=1611200
150*2762*4=1657200
and assuming 200 and 202 w.attk
2141200
2209600
so yes, the HTP would be better, however, having 12%dex on a chtp is kind of :S, you would expect around 15% minimum, for someone who can cough up these amounts of money. CHTP would be better before a certain w.attk is reached, but the math you used for the %dex was wrong, the difference isn't nearly as big as you made it out to be.
@c0jeffc0: I've never heard of anyone named GrandMorale, and tbh if you don't know anyone who HTs you won't be getting on any runs.
[quote=CrzyIcE]just a precaution but I read from some people who got their potential items wiped after transferring to another server[/quote]
thanks for the warning i will definently look into this
[quote=iinstantlove]It's a htp. Only worth max-2.5b. A 40Stat 2Atk Chtp with 12%Dex is a lot better than that, if the user has over 100%Dex.[/quote]
lets break down ur statement. lets take for instance a lvl 200 bowmaster with 999 base dex for arguements sake. now lets add his equipment boosts. lets say 250 is generous. now double that bcuz of the 100% dex. so now he has 2500... now lets add another 12% from that chtp that is 2700. Now scratch that chtp and well add 21% instead thats 3025 dex, now your going to tell me that a measly 2 wep attack beats an additional 325 dex? -20ish bcuz htp can only have 2x dex
[quote=iCodykins]Who is your Mechanic in Zenith?[/quote]
GrandMorale im gonna beg to get into a ht run when im 150 in a couple days XD
@blueblue ur right i cant, i would have to wait quite a while. but im fine with that if i can make a better profit on zenith.
Does the potential stay after you egg it?
Who is your Mechanic in Zenith?
also the meso's i make will be used to buy more equips for my mech on zenith, so would it be more beneficial to sell it on bellocan and buy equips there or wait till server transfers and sell it on zenith.
oh wow thanks first post and a great price check. thanks alot man
3.5b