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Nl and Kaiser bossing abilities

Hey guys, im looking at funding either kaiser or nightlord, and Id REALLY like to know what kind of damage each needs, to be able to solo the main hard bosses

specifically the 3 CRA, Hellux, and Hard magnus

Any examples or experience is great!
Im looking for;
Range clean/buffed, actual atk(of weap) luk/str, Boss%/dmg%/atk%

and if either has some HUGE difficulty for each boss would be a great heads up

The reason im stuck on the fence is mostly because im Canadian, so its in my nature!
no but seriously. I have a 520k clean NL with a 7atk scrolled claw, BUT i have so much warrior gear thats hard to come by! Ive got 11star tyrant shoes, 15-25atk legendary CRA (all 3), a 350atk 2h sword unique, and i can buy a kaiser emblem for 3b for 15% atk

obviously funding a nightlord is a billion times more expensive. The only deal ive been offered for my warrior gear is literally all of it for a 15star 22% thief tyrant shoe

December 29, 2014

14 Comments • Newest first

terfil

@daringwaffle:

Aha nice! If you need help in terms of DS, you can pm me. I may not be godly but I do have 2-2 clean and cap most bosses.

Reply December 29, 2014
daringwaffle

[quote=terfil]@daringwaffle

Although it wasn't in your options. I would look into funding a DS, because they are pretty efficient in terms of funding and are decent damage dealers. I'm canadian too aha.[/quote]

thats funny, thats my second choice as for warriors haha! go Canada!
only gripe is that secondary is untradable, lvl 60 emblem, and no finished 1haxe/maces around

Reply December 29, 2014
terfil

@daringwaffle

Although it wasn't in your options. I would look into funding a DS, because they are pretty efficient in terms of funding and are decent damage dealers. I'm canadian too aha.

Reply December 29, 2014
daringwaffle

[quote=Radiating]Actually funding a Kaiser is a lot more expensive than a NL if you want to cap. If you don't care about that then I guess NL is cheaper for soloing the end game bosses. For CRA you can probably kill Queen with 12mil gigas wave lines. Not sure about the other 2 but probably similar. My range is 1.9m-2m clean and I have 278%boss, 88% pdr and hit around 20m gigas wave's with SE on pdr bosses except for Vellum if that helps at all. I can solo every boss except CVellum and Hellux for now until I get to 210.[/quote]

what are you hitting on CRA atm with 2m clean?

Reply December 29, 2014
Radiating

Actually funding a Kaiser is a lot more expensive than a NL if you want to cap. If you don't care about that then I guess NL is cheaper for soloing the end game bosses. For CRA you can probably kill Queen with 12mil gigas wave lines. Not sure about the other 2 but probably similar. My range is 1.9m-2m clean and I have 278%boss, 88% pdr and hit around 20m gigas wave's with SE on pdr bosses except for Vellum if that helps at all. I can solo every boss except CVellum and Hellux for now until I get to 210.

Reply December 29, 2014
darksin1204

If you wanna hellux/magnus NLs are the way to go. Mark will kill the spawns in gollux, so you dont even need to worry about them. Dark sight dodges the balls and the dashing skill in magnus so its relatively easy to kill him.

Reply December 29, 2014
daringwaffle

does anyone know how much about each class needs to Solo CRA? Ive heard 1.2m and 200% boss on NL, nothing about kaiser
even hits/line of gigas/Quad throw is great

Reply December 29, 2014
Boussinesq

In terms of difficulty of the bosses for kaiser, it is hard to use kaiser's full damage potential when facing vellum and magnus. This is because vellum goes underground and magnus goes up in the air so often that wingbeat can not hit them for it's full duration. You will end up relying on gigas and tempest blades.

Reply December 29, 2014
jt3mpur4

NL fundings are much more expensive than funding a kaiser but in end-game, you'll spend even more if you plan to cap damage with a kaiser but honestly, you don't even need to. Tempest Blades, Wingbeat and the DR skills help a lot with the DPS.

Reply December 29, 2014
danielsop

if you are going to boss, NLs are great but the prices on their equips are OVERPRICED at the moment.
And it looks like you already have great equips for your kaiser, so i'd say go with kaiser and fund its way till the end unless you want to be a ninja.
- even though i took NW > NL because i only boss, NL and kaisers are still nonetheless one of the best bossers in game.
In the end, your playstyle?

Reply December 29, 2014
daringwaffle

[quote=tonyroxhehe]There are 4 CRA bosses.
Nightlord is better. Equips might be more expensive but it also has better bossing capabilities.[/quote]

yeah i know, but i dont see myself doing cra in the near future, not till i can stick to 1 classjust yet haha

@RicZilla: 1.2m.. clean? what kind of total STR do you have, what atk weap/%dmg//%atk?

Just wondering, how fast can you clear hard gollux at that range with ___%boss?
for NL, i can clear Hard gollux before I even have to rebuff, which is i think 3minutes atm

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
RicZilla

Har to Tell I have a 1.2m range Kaiser an I'm working on a NL. They both have theri pros and cons. Kaiser had DR ignore Atk Up Ignore status resistance lots of little atk perks like wingbeats stone dragon tempest blades. But NL has Drop% inc fast atk speed and its easier to get its range up compared to kaiser. Also its a great farmer for events and such. Pertty much up to you. NL equips are more expensive but your gonna spen more on Kaiser in the end game to get it's range up.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
ppeanut8

If you are going to fund a NL you need about 30b min

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
MrSinDeath19

NL is great for bossing, but itll cost ya more

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited