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For crying out loud Nexon

Okay, so I just looked at Eunwol's stats on Orange Mushroom Blog.

His bossing skill is (apparently) the one that hits 380% 8 times on 3 enemies. I'm posting this in the Hayato section because ARE YOU KIDDING ME NEXON?

Let's take a look. Eunwol's skill has delay roughly equivalent to that of Shinsoku. However, it does more than twice the damage and DOES benefit from a final attack-type skill--and the class has more innate damage multipliers, a higher WEAPON multiplier, and so forth.
I don't need to say that the power creep in this game is appalling as it is, but this disparity is only highlighting the company's complete disregard for balance before releasing something. That and the fact that JMS's design team has clearly been replaced at some point by a bunch of hydrocephalic mice on keyboards.

I'm on the verge of giving up on hoping for a revamp to Hayato and Kanna.

January 2, 2014

11 Comments • Newest first

Silvermane

[quote=UnfundedGod]FOR CRYING FREAKING OUT LOUD, have you ever played a zero?
IF YOU CAN PULL OFF THAT DPS IN SOMETHING LIKE DOJO AND SHOW ME A VIDEO OF IT, I'LL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY BUT I HAVE TRIED COUNTLESS TIMES AND I CANT PULL OFF THE COMBO THAT THE DPS CHART REQUIRES.
In other words, Zeros DO NOT have that much dps[/quote]

0.) Zero: 52114%/s - Alpha Combination 4 --> 2+3, Beta Combination 2 --> 4 --> 2 * (see footnote 4) /heh
1.) Dark Knight: 22144%/s - Gungnir + Sacrifice

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/22593/t1937974-post-red-dps-chart-2013/

Srsly...Not that much DPS....Srsly....

Reply January 10, 2014
DemoDango

@Singaporean: Well, if you want busted fingers, throw away your impatience and play an Aran.

I agree, I'm easily hitting consistent 1mil+ hits without an ounce of significant funding on my Zero, and I'm basically just switching between the two main combos (which, of course, are simultaneous anyway because of the tagging/assist)

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
Singaporean

@DemoDango: But the dps potential for zero is pretty much higher than most other classes for certain. The attacks are pretty much ridiculously fluid and almost (if not always) constant. It just depends on your control and if you don't mind busted fingers in the future.

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
DemoDango

@Singaporean: He's not complaining about his damage. He's complaining that the DPS chart is wholly unrealistic in terms of how it says it should work.

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
MyKarma

@UnfundedGod:

Well it's pretty much impossible to get the type of dps on the charts for a zero, but, even if zero was doing half the damage the dps charts show, he'd still be at the top. That's pretty big if you ask me.

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
Rianael

[quote=Singaporean]What i'm hearing is, "I tried an op character but since i'm not funded I expected to do funded damage but didn't so now i'm gonna qq. Btw... "[/quote]

Umm. DPS has nothing to do with funds. With funds or lack thereof equals the same DPS.

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
Singaporean

[quote=UnfundedGod]FOR CRYING FREAKING OUT LOUD, have you ever played a zero?
IF YOU CAN PULL OFF THAT DPS IN SOMETHING LIKE DOJO AND SHOW ME A VIDEO OF IT, I'LL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY BUT I HAVE TRIED COUNTLESS TIMES AND I CANT PULL OFF THE COMBO THAT THE DPS CHART REQUIRES.
In other words, Zeros DO NOT have that much dps[/quote]

What i'm hearing is, "I tried an op character but since i'm not funded I expected to do funded damage but didn't so now i'm gonna qq. Btw... "

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
UnfundedGod

[quote=MyKarma]All new classes are OP. Just look at Zero, he literally has twice the dps as the 2nd strongest class.

It's just the same, he'll be strong for now and nerfed later. Besides this is KMS, aren't JMS the ones to design Hayato and Kanna?[/quote]

FOR CRYING FREAKING OUT LOUD, have you ever played a zero?
IF YOU CAN PULL OFF THAT DPS IN SOMETHING LIKE DOJO AND SHOW ME A VIDEO OF IT, I'LL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY BUT I HAVE TRIED COUNTLESS TIMES AND I CANT PULL OFF THE COMBO THAT THE DPS CHART REQUIRES.
In other words, Zeros DO NOT have that much dps

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
DemoDango

@MyKarma: I mentioned JMS because they're the ones who need to update Hayato and Kanna, and KMS isn't waiting.

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
ajwright92

Me and a friend were just speaking about this type of thing also.
Just like hayato's Hyper skill 170 atk & Demon avengers thousand sword
Practically the same skills, thousand swords is 500%, while hayato's is 350%.
Same cool downs and number of monsters hit, but why the change in %?

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited
MyKarma

All new classes are OP. Just look at Zero, he literally has twice the dps as the 2nd strongest class.

It's just the same, he'll be strong for now and nerfed later. Besides this is KMS, aren't JMS the ones to design Hayato and Kanna?

Reply January 2, 2014 - edited