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This comment section is getting stupid... Really neither is wrong since @Lecarde thinks it's easy if you can afford it, which is true, and @Axnslicer thinks meister accessory is more expensive; thus, making it more difficult than meister smithing.

[quote=Lecarde]Its no harder than getting meister smithing.[/quote]
That is true if meso and materials aren't your concern. But, they are obviously Axnslicer's concern, and same for a lot of players.

[quote=Axnslicer]Instead, I listen to the experts. Let me refer you to that quote about wise men speaking because they have something to say.
See here for example. We're talking about Meister accessory crafting. I had Meister accessory crafting for about a year. So when I post something on this topic, you should consider when I post it's because I know what I'm talking about.[/quote]
See that kind of attitude isn't going to convince anyone. Like Lecarde suggest already, there are other master lvl accessories you can craft that gives a very decent amount of mastery. Unless I craft master cube, I only have timeless/reverse armor, android hearts to craft, and I just drop them right away.
Anyway, crafting luk/str/int/dex ring VI is a decent way to get to master craftman. From there I could have crafted those gray meister symbol and blue meister shoulders that all gives decent mastery. The amount of mastery per item can't beat one master cube, but you have at least 4 options for each to craft.
Now, all of this isn't going to be easy if you don't have enough material on mule, or meso to buy them from others, which is obviously the reason you think it is more difficult than meister smithing. Since [quote=Axnslicer]You can't craft cubes, that makes it much harder. Essentially everything you craft at levels 10 and 11 gets tossed.[/quote] Considering it does cost more to make a meister accessory, that makes it tougher than meister smithing.

[quote=Lecarde]@Axnslicer: Yea, keep telling yourself whatever you have to keep yourself happy. Getting to meister accessory crafting does not make you an expert, and keeping it surely does not mean you know anything about it. Like you said, you got there simply by throwing money at it.[/quote]

Makes me more of an expert than you.

@Axnslicer: Yea, keep telling yourself whatever you have to keep yourself happy. Getting to meister accessory crafting does not make you an expert, and keeping it surely does not mean you know anything about it. Like you said, you got there simply by throwing money at it.

[quote=Lecarde]@Axnslicer: No, you won't. You have demonstrated time and again that you refuse to listen to anyone who doesn't bend over to agree with you, regardless of the topic[/quote]

If you've noticed, I'm almost always right as well. Why listen to people talking nonsense? Of course I'm wrong occasionally. These days, about 10% of the time someone brings up a point I didn't consider or helps clarify points that I've left vague, I give those posts a like. About 1-3% of the time I'm just flat out wrong, haven't had that happen in a while though since I don't post in areas where I'm not experienced. Instead, I listen to the experts. Let me refer you to that quote about wise men speaking because they have something to say.

See here for example. We're talking about Meister accessory crafting. I had Meister accessory crafting for about a year. So when I post something on this topic, you should consider when I post it's because I know what I'm talking about.

@Axnslicer: No, you won't. You have demonstrated time and again that you refuse to listen to anyone who doesn't bend over to agree with you, regardless of the topic

[quote=Lecarde]@Axnslicer: Obviously you are going to ignore me no matter what I say. I never claimed to get there using solely dimension fragments just like I never claimed to get there solely through timeless pendants. I was merely pointing out that it is quite easy to obtain materials for acc crafting for free or very cheap.[/quote]

I am pointing out that talk is cheap. When you have actually achieved Meister Acc crafting with your methods I'll listen to you as you try to explain to me, someone who actually had Meister for nearly a year, how "easy" it is.

@Axnslicer: Obviously you are going to ignore me no matter what I say. I never claimed to get there using solely dimension fragments just like I never claimed to get there solely through timeless pendants. I was merely pointing out that it is quite easy to obtain materials for acc crafting for free or very cheap.

[quote=Lecarde]@Renkotesu: No. We definitely do not need more tyrant gear. We didn't even need the gloves really.

@Axnslicer: I can't help you if you decided to waste money on recipes and primal essences to craft rings that give 5k acc crafting exp. That is a waste of money. Easy exp is to make a zero and just give all of his dimension fragments to whatever character you want to do acc crafting. Every 50 fragments is 3,700 or more exp when you craft his white-gold lapel set[/quote]

I see you don't have a meister accessory crafter. Because I would love to see you get to meister using dimension frags.

For me personally, my end game Ring and Shoulder are part of a set. I use a Kanna Treasure ring and a Hayato Treasure shoulder, the set effect for the 2 pieces is 2 all stat 3 attack 3% total damage. The great thing about these is that you can enhance them to 15 stars if you choose to.

@Renkotesu: No. We definitely do not need more tyrant gear. We didn't even need the gloves really.

@Axnslicer: I can't help you if you decided to waste money on recipes and primal essences to craft rings that give 5k acc crafting exp. That is a waste of money. Easy exp is to make a zero and just give all of his dimension fragments to whatever character you want to do acc crafting. Every 50 fragments is 3,700 or more exp when you craft his white-gold lapel set

[quote=Lecarde]@Axnslicer: And? There are other things you can craft to get exp. Timeless gear gives 3,700 crafting exp. Anything at master lvl acc crafting gives 5k+ exp to make it. Its literally just as easy to do it, but since there isn't as much profit people ignore it[/quote]

And what timeless gear did you craft to get to meister acc crafting? Because I crafted rings all the way there and it was a miserable waste of money.

[quote=Lecarde]Endgame shoulder is black tinkerer shoulder. But its extremely hard to get, so meister or scarlet are suitable replacements

Endgame rings are Sup gollux, reinforce gollux, solid gollux, and there is debate between LGR and cracked gollux as the last ring.[/quote]

SW Shoulder is better than Black Tinkerer Shoulder, if you manage to get the maximum potential lines available on it. The potential lines will give a far more superior damage range increase than a few base attack. Crossing my fingers though that Nexon may choose to add Tyrant Shoulders in the near future.

@Axnslicer: And? There are other things you can craft to get exp. Timeless gear gives 3,700 crafting exp. Anything at master lvl acc crafting gives 5k+ exp to make it. Its literally just as easy to do it, but since there isn't as much profit people ignore it

[quote=Lecarde]Its no harder than getting meister smithing.[/quote]

You can't craft cubes, that makes it much harder. Essentially everything you craft at levels 10 and 11 gets tossed.

[quote=Axnslicer]You need to be a meister. AKA, give up, you can't do it. Getting to and maintaining meister acc crafting is borderline impossible/an utter pain, and the profit margins are pretty low as well.[/quote]

Its no harder than getting meister smithing.

[quote=EddiePhan]How and where can you get the Scarlet and Tinkerer ones Also do we need a recipe for the meister one? If yes please tell me how[/quote]
Scarlet and Tinker came from marvel. Meister shoulder is only craftable for meisters (lvl12 accessory crafting, no recipe needed). You can buy all of these from the fm, but I would go with emp shoulder. Meister shoulders are affordable, but you cannot psok them after I think. I wouldn't care so much about getting 30% int on thief shoulder thing... It's stupid, just cube it again till you get the stats you want. It's a waste of time to sell the item then go make yours again. When I was cubing my perfect gollux pendant, I got really good %luk ones, but trading that for an %int one was simply too much trouble. I don't want to go through the trouble of selling it then make another perfect pendant either, some cubes later I got the perfect stats I wanted, and problem solved.

For accessories, I would go with 1 full set (ring+pendant+belt+earring) of superior gollux, set of 2 (ring+pendant) for reinforced gollux, empress shoulder. I think you can use a scarlet ring to get set of 3 for reinforced gollux, but I'm not sure. You can get lgr for another ring, or if you have really high %crit, get a %min crit dmg ring instead of scarlet ring.

[quote=EddiePhan]How and where can you get the Scarlet and Tinkerer ones Also do we need a recipe for the meister one? If yes please tell me how[/quote]

You need to be a meister. AKA, give up, you can't do it. Getting to and maintaining meister acc crafting is borderline impossible/an utter pain, and the profit margins are pretty low as well.

How and where can you get the Scarlet and Tinkerer ones Also do we need a recipe for the meister one? If yes please tell me how

@Itachifire: Mostly cause its all class. You cube godly pot on it, but for the wrong class? You can still sell it, whereas a raven horn shoulder with 30%int won't sell for nearly as much as it would if it could be equipped by mages

theres also scarlet shoulder no?

Meister can be 15 starred and is all class. With empress you are restricted when cubing, imagine cubing 30% luk on a warrior shoulder.
edit: Also I don't think the royal metal black shoulder can be psoked.

[quote=Lecarde]Endgame shoulder is black tinkerer shoulder. But its extremely hard to get, so meister or scarlet are suitable replacements

Endgame rings are Sup gollux, reinforce gollux, solid gollux, and there is debate between LGR and cracked gollux as the last ring.[/quote]

Why is Meister shoulder considered endgame over empress and royal black? Is it because it has 3 more attack?

Endgame shoulder is black tinkerer shoulder. But its extremely hard to get, so meister or scarlet are suitable replacements

Endgame rings are Sup gollux, reinforce gollux, solid gollux, and there is debate between LGR and cracked gollux as the last ring.