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27 Attack 21% Dex Vss

Has this Item ever reached 40b?
Like has it ever been worth 40b? I'd like if anyone can clear this up for me.
Cause some dude claimed he sold one of his 27 Attack 21% Dex VSS for 40b(Which he bought for 15b)
This was before Max Mesos was changed.
Thanks and XOXO

July 27, 2013

33 Comments • Newest first

FruguaRunsFM

@mikeeeee: Honey. Why do you seem like your getting so worked up? ^.~
Didn't I go over this? I'm on a computer, I ain't running.
I don't care that you '' [b]SOLD[/b] '' your ''VSS'' for '' 40b ''
I just wanted to prove yeah wrong yeah know boo boo?

Reply July 27, 2013
Pactom

[quote=Copyrighted]@FruguaRunsFM
Lock the thread, your question is already answered. Price never peaked at 40bil. Could it have been sold? Sure. But the price level never reached that level. It would a an outlier so to speak.[/quote]

I think him and mikeeqt got into an argument on youtube, so he decided to make the thread even though he absolutely understands that their are no set prices in this game

Reply July 27, 2013
Pactom

[quote=FruguaRunsFM]@Pactom: Question* Typo Boo Boo
I made a thread asking because I was curious if it has ever reached the PEAK point of the value of 40b.[/quote]

But you just said you understand that their are no set prices on items in this game ...

Reply July 27, 2013
FruguaRunsFM

@Pactom: Question* Typo Boo Boo
I made a thread asking because I was curious if it has ever reached the PEAK point of the value of 40b.

Reply July 27, 2013
Pactom

[quote=FruguaRunsFM]@Pactom: Sure It may be relevant to this thread, but did that have anything to answer my quest?
No. I absolutely understand that every single item doesn't have a set amount.[/quote]

What quest?

So why do you make a thread asking if a 27 attack, 21% dex shoe has ever reached 40b?

Reply July 27, 2013
nikeball123

@FruguaRunsFM: I'm saying that prices used to be very high. Remember when stonetooth was over 50b? They dropped to 10k nx in a few weeks.

Reply July 27, 2013
FruguaRunsFM

@Pactom: Sure It may be relevant to this thread, but did that have anything to answer my quest?
No. I absolutely understand that every single item doesn't have a set amount.

Reply July 27, 2013
Pactom

[quote=FruguaRunsFM]@nikeball123: No one asked.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure that him saying he sold his 185 attack dagger for 20b is relevant to this thread.

I don't think you understand that their are no set prices in this game, people can sell items for whatever price they feel like, all it depends on is the buyer pretty much.

Reply July 27, 2013
Psychopathic

[quote=nikeball123]I remember selling a 185atk vip dagger for 20b.[/quote]

I remember Empress daggers being around 50b.
A friend got extremely lucky and found one in the fm for something like 500m

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
Pactom

[quote=nikeball123]I remember selling a 185atk vip dagger for 20b.[/quote]

I remember selling a 17 attack 8% luk berserker ring for 1,400 4% all stat nebulites. Could have held onto them and made 8 trill

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
nikeball123

I remember selling a 185atk vip dagger for 20b.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
fanglikescake

How did this get to like an economics debate...

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
TogoPogo

sorry for being a bit off-topic but can I get a p/c on this please, in Broa:

http://i.imgur.com/NWnymXt.jpg

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
FruguaRunsFM

@Doraemon: I understand, but HEY.
We all have a set of people who hate us and a set of people that love us.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
EmilRiza

HMMMMM i truly doubt it if he sold it for 40b... im selling my 27att 19%luk for 5b .. so 8%luk wont make a 35B diff...

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
FruguaRunsFM

@mikeeeee: Overall, All I'm trying to say is [b]NO ONE[/b] cares if you sold your VSS for 40b or not.
We just know for a fact that IT HAS NEVER Reached 40b. Thanks for the troll but please [b]DON'T[/b] COME AGAIN.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
higuy1213

@Copyrighted
Yeah, you're right about that. I wrote that post because one of your contentions was that a 3% dex difference could not be worth 25b.
On an unrelated note, how did you adjust that for inflation?

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
rockboarder

[quote=higuy1213]@Copyrighted
I don't think you are familiar with the paradigm of this game. You are obviously educated when it comes to macroeconomics, but your knowledge of microeconomics is lacking.
If you had the only Dominator Pendant in the game, people would want it because it has the distinction of being the only one in the game. I agree that the shoes should not be worth that much, but most people in this game would rather have the only Dominator Pendant in the game than have a substitute of the same stats.[/quote]

I think what he is trying to say is that if he had the only Dom Pen in the world and set it for an absurd price no one would buy it at that absurd price, but you could be right as I am not him or I misread somewhere.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
mrspike188

[quote=Copyrighted]I cringed so hard at your knowledge of economics. The thing about supply and demand is that you cannot choose a price no matter what. That VSS isn't a necessity so no matter what you do, the demand will never be completely inelastic.
" demand is low, price lowers, demand is high, price rises."
You obviously don't even know the basics, the S/D graph consists of 2 curves, a supply and a demand, price doesn't just rest on demand itself.

" this best the only shoe of its kind, the price can be raised to whatever i want it to go to. i chose 40b. sold for 40b so THEN the price would've peaked at 40b"
The other thing about demand curve is that it is shifted by complementary/substitute goods. Your shoes isn't the only shoe in the world so there will be substitute good and therefore your price level will always be influenced by said substitutes.

All in all, you're full of it. You cannot "choose" a price regardless. If I had the only dominator pendant in the world, I cannot "choose" ANY price to sell it at and simply sell it, people will find an alternate.

Btw, I've been in windia since I started and as a bowmaster, I can tell you that the shoe you refer to was never as high as you bsed about.[/quote]

your apparent knowledge of economics doesn't apply to this game

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
higuy1213

@Copyrighted
I don't think you are familiar with the paradigm of this game. You are obviously educated when it comes to macroeconomics, but your knowledge of microeconomics is lacking.
If you had the only Dominator Pendant in the game, people would want it because it has the distinction of being the only one in the game. I agree that the shoes should not be worth that much, but most people in this game would rather have the only Dominator Pendant in the game than have a substitute of the same stats.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
Pactom

I'm pretty sure that their are no "set" prices in this game. High supply or low supply.

I'm guessing that when @mikeeeee had the shoes, legendary potential wasn't even out. Cubing 21% on unique tiers was just as hard as getting 30% on legendary. On top of that, there was most likely a crashless dupe which meant dupers had unlimited white scrolls. What if a duper needed the 21% dex shoes to dupe, so he/she just decided to buy it for 400 white scrolls.. which was like nothing @ that time for a duper.

People don't understand that a lot of people overpay for items in this game.
For example:
More than a year ago, I had an empress crossbow, a duper messaged me and offered 500 GM GFA's for it (40b @ the time) because he needed it to dupe.
Recently, when LGR's started coming from gachapon, I bought one for 10b pure meso and resold it for 1.9m NX.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
ytv090

[quote=Copyrighted]I cringed so hard at your knowledge of economics. The thing about supply and demand is that you cannot choose a price no matter what. That VSS isn't a necessity so no matter what you do, the demand will never be completely inelastic.
" demand is low, price lowers, demand is high, price rises."
You obviously don't even know the basics, the S/D graph consists of 2 curves, a supply and a demand, price doesn't just rest on demand itself.

" this best the only shoe of its kind, the price can be raised to whatever i want it to go to. i chose 40b. sold for 40b so THEN the price would've peaked at 40b"
The other thing about demand curve is that it is shifted by complementary/substitute goods. Your shoes isn't the only shoe in the world so there will be substitute good and therefore your price level will always be influenced by said substitutes.

All in all, you're full of it. You cannot "choose" a price regardless. If I had the only dominator pendant in the world, I cannot "choose" ANY price to sell it at and simply sell it, people will find an alternate.

Btw, I've been in windia since I started and as a bowmaster, I can tell you that the shoe you refer to was never as high as you bsed about.[/quote]

+10 Genius Points

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
Swagilicious

[quote=LawdyBabz]I remember that trade! It was between Mike and Phillip. Phillip gave the shoes to his girlfriend who was some 200 Bowmaster. Like Mike said, those were the best shoes in Windia at the time. Noone else had 27/21 Dex shoes, only 27/18. Considering how many rich Bowmasters/Mercedes there were around that time that were pretty much kissing Mikes ass to get those shoes, he could've probably got another 5B from them.[/quote]

Hallo @mikeeeee 's mule

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
canine

27 att 27% dex vss is 8.5B here in bera. not anywhere near 40B.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
Swagilicious

Why would you even continue talking to the unresolvable guy? lol.
He obviously has down syndrome or something "considering i was one of the best merchers in the game and made 200b in a month" l0l

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
damonaire

Even with that video ^ that item was never worth 40b. Maybe 15b if lucky back then

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
Swagilicious

Are you retarded?

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
FruguaRunsFM

@mikeeeee: I'm on the computer Lol...I'm not running anywhere?
And those scrolls don't prove anything. How do I know you didn't dupe those? Hmm. Figures.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
XxSuperMoFoxX

i really doubt that...lol
the only time dex was worth anything close to luk or str today was when merc's/mechs were just released....

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited
FruguaRunsFM

@sadface3: Thanks. Can others please confirm this?
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=ixQxSVwzNHk < Arguement we had here.

Reply July 27, 2013 - edited