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last unwelcome dagger str vs Spr. Summer Surf Board

Which is better for a perma beginner?
Counting things like potential ranks (I think numbers are different depending on weapon level)
Spell tracing options (more att for higher leveled equips)
Having a shield and not.
Having a secondary and not.

Ty ^^

May 27, 2015

10 Comments • Newest first

Harry923

[quote=SheepPB]Giant potion. Dont matter what you use. Smash things. Win things. Champion.[/quote]

Yep, but giant potions multiply damage which means having better weapon will give me better damage with the pots.

@whatthejew my bad. I was supposed to get VIP DAGGER STR(LEVEL 127) but instead I bought LAST UNWELCOME GUEST DAGGER STR(LEVEL 107).
Maybe I'll use it in earlier level then get the real one and scroll in the latter part.
Thanks

Reply May 28, 2015 - edited
SheepPB

Giant potion. Dont matter what you use. Smash things. Win things. Champion.

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
Horsechub

[quote=Traitor]Polearm has a better multiplier than Dagger does it not?

This might help you some:

[b]Scrolling:[/b]
-The scrolling system has been semi-replaced with the Spell Trace system which you collect a required amount of traces to use a scroll. How it works is you double click the Spell Trace in your etc tab or the Pink Hammer in your inventory window and place the item in there. You can then see how many traces is required per scroll. If you're poor, I recommend 70-100%ing your items, except for weapons which I always recommend at the very least 70%ing it.
-The enhancement system is semi-replaced by the Star Force system, this system takes effect after you finish scrolling an item. Once the item does not have any slots left, you can add additional stats by enhancing it with Star Force which is done by the Pink Hammer. I recommend Star Forcing all your equips until 10 stars because it is fairly cheap to do so. This will also increase your range by a pretty fair amount.

[b]Potentials:[/b]
There a certain tiers for items to have potential which has 4 different ranks. I wouldn't really worry about potential items unless they are above level 75 which is the 3rd tier.

First Tier: 1-30, items will generally have lines in multiples of 1%. (2%, 3%, 4%)
Second Tier: 31-74, items will generally have lines in multiples of 2%. (4%,6%,9%)
Third Tier: 75-159, items will generally have lines in multiples of 3%. (6%,9%,12%)
Fourth Tier: 160+, this one is a little unique because the lines are 4% (7%, 10%, 13%)

How it works:
if your item is Rare, you will generally have the lowest multiple.
if your item is Epic, you will get the maximum landing at 2nd multiple.
if your item is Unique you will get the maximum landing at 3rd multiple.
if your item is Legendary you will get the maximum landing at highest multiple.

So for example, your Legendary item unlocks the potential to have the maximum % but you can land any of the %s below it, such as rare, epic, unique. So if you get VERY lucky, your lines would all be of one stat but don't be so sure to expect to get that easily. You will be spending many, many, packs of cubes. The best time to cube is during miracle time when nexon does a 2x-like event for cubing, increasing the chances of rank up. Again, I don't recommend cubing anything below the third tier.

Weapons and armors have different potentials. Weapons have additional stats such as att/matt where as armor is generally stat based. You can make cubes but farming the materials and leveling the skill level takes time. I would recommend picking up professions as soon as possible to start leveling it up. Sometimes when you make equipment, such as earrings, you can get epic/unique items which you can sell for a fair amount, meaning you can make money this way. When you mine mysterious rocks you also have a chance to find cubes(other way would be bossing)!

[b]Nebulites:[/b]
You don't really get to see this much but people generally applies this to weapons. Select few rich players have acquired a lot of nebs for their armor as well.

How it works:
You can purchase a nebulite socket opener thing from the pot shop and apply it to your item. You can then apply your nebulite of choice depending what you have.

Weapon: I would put on a %boss or %pdr neb or % att neb for endgame. If you can't afford it, you can use an att neb or crit neb. Think wisely because removing a neb costs NX.
Armor: I always recommend %stat nebs but if you're poor, again you may choose to use simple +stat nebs

There are some useful but expensive skill nebs with skills such as Hyper Body for pants and Sharp Eyes for gloves meaning that regardless of class you can use both those skills but at a nerfed rate. The stats only apply to yourself however.

[b]Souls for Weapons:[/b]
This is a newer system where you can even more stats to your weapons.

How it works:
You use a soul enchanter on your weapon, these drop from monsters and some bosses. Once your item is a soul weapon, you equip your weapon and apply the soul. If you do not have a soul, you would have to hunt bosses which drop soul shards. Collect 10 shards to trade for a random stat soul in which you can apply to your weapon. Some souls are attacks, some are summons.[/quote]

All multipliers are equal in the arms of beginners

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
Valykire

The dagger is definitely stronger than the surfboard, but it can be a bit harder to find. The VIP STR Dagger is also 127, not 107. I could be wrong, but I believe the 127 version is the only common version, at least.

Whichever weapon you use, you should still use a secondary rather than a shield. The highest common shield is only level 45, so the potentials available aren't very good. Like @whatthejew said, beginners can wear the Cygnus secondaries.

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
whatthejew

VIP dagger is best weapon for beginners. However two handed weapons have slight advantage due to reach distance if you don't mind that.
For beginners ALL weapon types have same damage multiplier, so it's best to just go with whichever has the highest base ATK.
With starforce the VIP dagger STR by far outweighs everything as it can climb up to 12 stars nothing else compares to that from what I know.
Never use shield, use the lv 100 Cygnus Secondary, yes beginners can wear them. =]

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
Traitor

@Harry923: Every 50 att increment adds different attack stats, usually in a difference of 1 attack

Go with the shield, and STR is probably a better bet than HP but it's up to you what you want to do.

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
Harry923

@Traitor thanks a lot!
What I was asking on scrolling part is the difference of attack added depending on level of weapon. Like 70%ing a level 10 wep and doing the same for a faf gives different attack.
I can't check this myself for sometime as I can not play maplestory for some personal reasons.

I asked this because the surf board is level 95 and dagger is level 107 which might just incase make a difference.

Also, another question. What is the highest level common shield available in MapleStory?
I was thinking about scrolling it for HP. Or is getting good potential on secondary a lot better?

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
Traitor

Polearm has a better multiplier than Dagger does it not?

This might help you some:

[b]Scrolling:[/b]
-The scrolling system has been semi-replaced with the Spell Trace system which you collect a required amount of traces to use a scroll. How it works is you double click the Spell Trace in your etc tab or the Pink Hammer in your inventory window and place the item in there. You can then see how many traces is required per scroll. If you're poor, I recommend 70-100%ing your items, except for weapons which I always recommend at the very least 70%ing it.
-The enhancement system is semi-replaced by the Star Force system, this system takes effect after you finish scrolling an item. Once the item does not have any slots left, you can add additional stats by enhancing it with Star Force which is done by the Pink Hammer. I recommend Star Forcing all your equips until 10 stars because it is fairly cheap to do so. This will also increase your range by a pretty fair amount.

[b]Potentials:[/b]
There a certain tiers for items to have potential which has 4 different ranks. I wouldn't really worry about potential items unless they are above level 75 which is the 3rd tier.

First Tier: 1-30, items will generally have lines in multiples of 1%. (2%, 3%, 4%)
Second Tier: 31-74, items will generally have lines in multiples of 2%. (4%,6%,9%)
Third Tier: 75-159, items will generally have lines in multiples of 3%. (6%,9%,12%)
Fourth Tier: 160+, this one is a little unique because the lines are 4% (7%, 10%, 13%)

How it works:
if your item is Rare, you will generally have the lowest multiple.
if your item is Epic, you will get the maximum landing at 2nd multiple.
if your item is Unique you will get the maximum landing at 3rd multiple.
if your item is Legendary you will get the maximum landing at highest multiple.

So for example, your Legendary item unlocks the potential to have the maximum % but you can land any of the %s below it, such as rare, epic, unique. So if you get VERY lucky, your lines would all be of one stat but don't be so sure to expect to get that easily. You will be spending many, many, packs of cubes. The best time to cube is during miracle time when nexon does a 2x-like event for cubing, increasing the chances of rank up. Again, I don't recommend cubing anything below the third tier.

Weapons and armors have different potentials. Weapons have additional stats such as att/matt where as armor is generally stat based. You can make cubes but farming the materials and leveling the skill level takes time. I would recommend picking up professions as soon as possible to start leveling it up. Sometimes when you make equipment, such as earrings, you can get epic/unique items which you can sell for a fair amount, meaning you can make money this way. When you mine mysterious rocks you also have a chance to find cubes(other way would be bossing)!

[b]Nebulites:[/b]
You don't really get to see this much but people generally applies this to weapons. Select few rich players have acquired a lot of nebs for their armor as well.

How it works:
You can purchase a nebulite socket opener thing from the pot shop and apply it to your item. You can then apply your nebulite of choice depending what you have.

Weapon: I would put on a %boss or %pdr neb or % att neb for endgame. If you can't afford it, you can use an att neb or crit neb. Think wisely because removing a neb costs NX.
Armor: I always recommend %stat nebs but if you're poor, again you may choose to use simple +stat nebs

There are some useful but expensive skill nebs with skills such as Hyper Body for pants and Sharp Eyes for gloves meaning that regardless of class you can use both those skills but at a nerfed rate. The stats only apply to yourself however.

[b]Souls for Weapons:[/b]
This is a newer system where you can even more stats to your weapons.

How it works:
You use a soul enchanter on your weapon, these drop from monsters and some bosses. Once your item is a soul weapon, you equip your weapon and apply the soul. If you do not have a soul, you would have to hunt bosses which drop soul shards. Collect 10 shards to trade for a random stat soul in which you can apply to your weapon. Some souls are attacks, some are summons.

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
ElNath

I personally use a pole arm on my beginner but I also sometimes use a dagger and shield, it all depends on if you can afford a better dagger or not if you should use it

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited
Qupit

Not like beginners have weapon mastery or anything, go with the one that hits faster.

Reply May 27, 2015 - edited