Upgrading Need a p/c on primed cra, assuming no potential
Title.
Accidentally dropped my 19% luk helm 15 atk helm, figured it was time to upgrade.
January 17, 2015
Upgrading Need a p/c on primed cra, assuming no potential
Title.
Accidentally dropped my 19% luk helm 15 atk helm, figured it was time to upgrade.
9 Comments • Newest first
@Iamshorttt: You're talking about a 600% set lol. Try a more realistic set of %stat and a good amount of %attack. In a perfect world sure. But your average "pro" would be set with a 30+ attack top. Also what if I already have 15 star tyrants. Regardless the difference of 70 stat vs 41 attack is in favor of attack. Until I have 45%+ everything. Which only your heavy addicts and dupers can achieve.
[quote=antycleax]500-600% stats?
I'm pretty sure with most jobs you can cap with just 400% stats easily. I don't think primed gear is worth it unless it's a phantom, kaiser or NW. The other jobs cap easily.[/quote]
uhhhh.... 2tight is my main
[quote=Iamshorttt]when u have cra primed set will give you raw stats of about 150+120+120 = 390 before equip enhancing, with around 500%-600% luk your main stat increase from the primed cra will be 1950-2340 which is significantly better than all cra gears even if they are 30-40 atk apiece...
even when atk starved around 1000 atk, which im currently on. with an increase of 2000 to main stat at 18000 luk vs increase in 100 atk at 1000 atk. 100 atk gives only 10k more to range. this is why a 5 starred tyrants (thus without the bonus atk ee) gives more range than a 41 atk PAC.[/quote]
500-600% stats?
I'm pretty sure with most jobs you can cap with just 400% stats easily. I don't think primed gear is worth it unless it's a phantom, kaiser or NW. The other jobs cap easily.
[quote=Iamshorttt]if rngesus grants you tons of luk + atk then sure its better to icog it. if you aim for 50+ mainstat on top + 40-35 atk cra tops with icogs, u probably are better off getting ur tyrants to 15 stars.
(PrimaryStat* 4+SecondaryStat)* ATT* (1+Attack%)/100 -> (PrimaryStat* 4+SecondaryStat)* ATT/100 * (1+Attack%) -> (PrimaryStat* 4+SecondaryStat)* (ATT/100) * (1+Attack%)
Proof is by transitive property. %Attack is just a damage multiplier it simply doesn't care how much attack u have unless your attack is 0. The (ATK/100) is just a multiplier, however this multiplier is easily capped at some point like 15 starred tyrants, how else are u getting more atk?. However %stat potential can go even higher, you can get past 600% luk and with the +stat per 10 levels on bpots ur are no where near cap in terms of main stats.
If you run a spreadsheet with numbers assuming i have 18000 main stat and 1000 attack it is marginally better to get 2000 raw stats.
http://gyazo.com/d46d74ded4bddf1dcb0a01c4db010726
TLDR: Attacks are capped due to equipment limitations and is easily obtained through equipment enhancing/scrolling, even at 600+% main stat you can still upgrade to the potential. Thus when you do come close to the atk cap 100-200 more atk is marginally worse than 2000~ main stat assuming you have over 600% main stat.[/quote]
Can confirm.
Source : Art major
[quote=Klytta]You're a bit off on the amount of stats primed CRA gives. A primed hat gives 210 main Stat and 2ndary stat at 15 stars. Before you add on the % stat. However the difference is 110 stat vs stat and attack or 90 stat vs stat and attack for the top/bottom. As amazing as CRA primed is the lack of attack to go with a large amount of %attack is also a huge loss to range. A primed hat is wonderful but I wouldn't give up my 100 luk 41 attack top for a primed one ever. Don't forget to can gain main Stat as well when you chaos. So it just depends on how good the chaos scrolling goes.[/quote]
if rngesus grants you tons of luk + atk then sure its better to icog it. if you aim for 50+ mainstat on top + 40-35 atk cra tops with icogs, u probably are better off getting ur tyrants to 15 stars.
(PrimaryStat* 4+SecondaryStat)* ATT* (1+Attack%)/100 -> (PrimaryStat* 4+SecondaryStat)* ATT/100 * (1+Attack%) -> (PrimaryStat* 4+SecondaryStat)* (ATT/100) * (1+Attack%)
Proof is by transitive property. %Attack is just a damage multiplier it simply doesn't care how much attack u have unless your attack is 0. The (ATK/100) is just a multiplier, however this multiplier is easily capped at some point like 15 starred tyrants, how else are u getting more atk?. However %stat potential can go even higher, you can get past 600% luk and with the +stat per 10 levels on bpots ur are no where near cap in terms of main stats.
If you run a spreadsheet with numbers assuming i have 18000 main stat and 1000 attack it is marginally better to get 2000 raw stats.
http://gyazo.com/d46d74ded4bddf1dcb0a01c4db010726
TLDR: Attacks are capped due to equipment limitations and is easily obtained through equipment enhancing/scrolling, even at 600+% main stat you can still upgrade to the potential. Thus when you do come close to the atk cap 100-200 more atk is marginally worse than 2000~ main stat assuming you have over 600% main stat.
You're a bit off on the amount of stats primed CRA gives. A primed hat gives 210 main Stat and 2ndary stat at 15 stars. Before you add on the % stat. However the difference is 110 stat vs stat and attack or 90 stat vs stat and attack for the top/bottom. As amazing as CRA primed is the lack of attack to go with a large amount of %attack is also a huge loss to range. A primed hat is wonderful but I wouldn't give up my 100 luk 41 attack top for a primed one ever. Don't forget to can gain main Stat as well when you chaos. So it just depends on how good the chaos scrolling goes.
[quote=3xdex]Just wondering. Sorry if I sound like a noob lol, why is priming equips better than chaosing for attack?[/quote]
when u have cra primed set will give you raw stats of about 150+120+120 = 390 before equip enhancing, with around 500%-600% luk your main stat increase from the primed cra will be 1950-2340 which is significantly better than all cra gears even if they are 30-40 atk apiece...
even when atk starved around 1000 atk, which im currently on. with an increase of 2000 to main stat at 18000 luk vs increase in 100 atk at 1000 atk. 100 atk gives only 10k more to range. this is why a 5 starred tyrants (thus without the bonus atk ee) gives more range than a 41 atk PAC.
Just wondering. Sorry if I sound like a noob lol, why is priming equips better than chaosing for attack?
Fully primed cra stuff with n potential more than likely does not exist in galacia..