Fire Poison Bossing Gameplay

Hello Everyone,

I really enjoy playing FP because the bossing style (before you hit 35m on paralyze) requires mastering the DoT system which is difficult but rewarding as ME hits for so hard. However, as I play the game I've realized that this play style may be obsolete for real bossing. I do not know that much, so I am asking to see if this is the case.

I have 3 questions.

1. For the Bosses that give off good drops such as - hard magnus, hellux, CRA, is it possible for a FP mage to solo it when their range is enough to cap with Mist Explosion but not to hit 35m's with Paralyze. I.e. Is it only possible to solo higher tier bosses when FH + ME has become obsolete compared to paralyze spam. (If so, it really defeats the point of the playstyle i enjoy. :O).

2. Are FP's effective bossers with FH + ME on most bosses? I think this branches off into two aspect.s
a) Stance --- A really difficult aspect of bossing with my FP has been stance --- since it virtually has no avoid, every time i do Czak/HT where you have to stand on small platforms, the knockback is incredibly hard to deal with. So even though i would be able to kill real fast with the dmg output i can put, it's greatly slowed b/c of how often i have to get back up to the platform.
b) FH's poison mist placement --- Often times when the bosses are very large vertically --- when you use Flame Haze on the, for example, head of HT, the poison will be place on the bottom of the map as opposed where FH has hit, this makes the ME right after not hit the target --- and so the only way to get ME is to manually place poison mist which takes along time to cast, and is difficult to place.

3. What Range is it that is required to solo most of the relevant bosses? The other job that I enjoy very much are NLs/NWs (Even though they just spam, something about throwing stars suits me) --- I, however, opted for a Fire poison because funding wise it was more realistic for me to get to a relevant range on the FP than a NW --- However, if the range required to solo most of the relevant bosses on a NW is much less than a FP then i might as well opt for the former.

Thanks in advance to those who answer these questions, this is a long post, but it really determines whether I continue my F/P or not. (paralyze spam ain't really that appealing).

P.S
Calling on @cherryTigers @sungoon @rs567
I've seen yall help tons on FPs and i respect yall's opinions.

March 29, 2015

10 Comments • Newest first

Infinitums

Thank yall so much! This was really helpful . I so thankful that the F/P community has such friendly and reliable mentor.

Reply March 31, 2015

rs567

I think the posters above summed it all up pretty nicely, but just to add in. I didn't start consistently capping with eruption until I was at around a 900k-1m range or so, though perhaps my %boss and %ignore were lower than @CherryTigers? Not too sure.

At that range, it's definitely possible to take on pretty much every boss except for chaos vellum, hell gollux and chaos pierre. For the first two, you just straight up need more damage (preferably 30m per line on the gem for hell gollux and 35m+ per line for vellum, if you're soloing with paralyze). I'm a little skeptical about the 25m per line to solo vellum, just from my own experience. Chaos pierre should be possible if you take points out of ignite and work on your control. I don't know how much money is required to properly fund a NW, but I know that they are amazing bossers if you decide to go that route. Good luck on your decision either way!

Reply March 30, 2015 - edited

CherryTigers

@CheapMerchant This is a picture of me with 650k range.
http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-50m_damage_on_Chaos_Pierre-Damage-Screen-229380.html

I don't think I'll be capping at 600k range though.

Reply March 30, 2015 - edited

CheapMerchant

Just wondering. Do you cap with ME by 600k?

Reply March 30, 2015 - edited

CherryTigers

600k range and good weapon potentials, I can solo hard magnus. I'll be predominately using flame haze and mist eruption. It's all about timing at that point and strategic playing. Obviously this will take the whole 30 minutes.
Edit: 600k range might be pushing it...? I don't know since I haven't tested it but I know for a fact 800k range can succeed.

As for soloing CRA. you can solo chaos vellum while hitting 25m per line on paralyze.

Stance? FP mages have 50% buff duration passive. With level 1 mihile link skill, you can have stance all the way through with a %buff duration inner ability. I prefer using level 2 link though since you can use a different inner ability afterwards.

Reply March 30, 2015 - edited

Sungoon

@Infinitums:

1) I'm a really casual player, so I can't really answer this fully. I think you'll have a hard time making use of the FH + ME combo on cvellum and magnus because they move so much. This also ties in with...
2b) If you can predict where Magnus or Von Leon will be after they move/teleport, then use Poison Mist. For example, I see that VL has teleported to me and his animation is still happening, so I use PM while he's un-hittable. This is useful if you cast FH, VL teles away before you can detonate it (or you detonate it and it misses, so FH goes on cool down the next time you want to use it).

2a) Yeah the lack of stance is pretty bad. But, with teleport now working with jump, I noticed the recovery time has vastly improved especially at places like HT or Zakum. A common solution is to get Mihile's link skill.

3) You'll have to ask @cherrytigers or @rs567 xD As I said, I'm a casual player. At 300k range, I can solo up to cht (that I know of, in the past I've suffered from lag and d/cs from ignite </3) Any boss I can't solo I enjoy defeating with my lovely guild.

Hope that helps