General

No Dark Knights are not getting a nerf soon, why the hell would they need a toy gun that shoots foam darts when they have spears and polearms?
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@LightZero in the end it'll all be worth

@ITrandescent: It still is, lvl 100 is just easy to get to and something worth considering if you haven't made the characters

@FreeIcecream: yea except i believe that both zero and NW are unavailable atm i saw the nightwalker revamp skills and they still look don't look that great though they do insane dmg, i think i will stay on the dark knight, because i'll still be able to do good damage and have a great time! with some buff duration and character cards ill be fine

@ITrandescent
Phatoms will get nerfed in the same patch as Drks.
Dual Blades need a ton of funding to hit high, and seeing how you are one I believe you are better at judging them than me.
If you just want high damage go Zero or Night Walker or something.

@FreeIceCream well how about their dps compared to phantoms, dual blades, and other high dps classes

[quote=ITrandescent]@FreeIceCream : do you still think that its worth funding and leveling a dark knight? or do you know any other fun classses with dps.[/quote]

Dark Knights are still a solid class, if you enjoy playing them I would say go for it

@FreeIceCream : do you still think that its worth funding and leveling a dark knight? or do you know any other fun classses with dps.

Normal duration and cooldown post-rebalance is 30/70
With max empathy (10%), SS rank Mechanic (20%) and 50% inner you'll have 80% buff duration, so 30 * 1.8 = 54 seconds.
SS rank mercedes decreases cooldown by 5%, so 70 * 0.95 = 66.5 seconds cooldown.

I believe there's also a -2 sec cooldown inner line or something, but let's assume you won't be getting it along with 50% duration.
That still leaves a 12.5 second gap where you'd have to spam Dark Impale.

[quote=LightZero]Empathy will be the most painful. Empathy increases buff duration since a certain update, its either 5% or 10% buff duration at lvl 100 empathy and its not that painful to get two characters to lvl 100 especially when mercedes is something that should be kept for training other characters(link skill gives exp).[/quote]

Wait i thought it was level 200 for max effect

Empathy will be the most painful. Empathy increases buff duration since a certain update, its either 5% or 10% buff duration at lvl 100 empathy and its not that painful to get two characters to lvl 100 especially when mercedes is something that should be kept for training other characters(link skill gives exp).

[quote=LightZero]Nah there's something else you can do, what @FreeIcecream said is right. You need 100+ buff duration but you can also use the mercedes card to reduce skill cd by 3-4 seconds ( for the beholder skill). Getting one buff line, mech card, and perhaps max empathy should be decent enough for spamming gunghir but two lines of buff duration (legendary) should grant you spammable gunghir again.[/quote]

getting mech and merc card will be a pain. Since when did empathy reduce cd or increase buff duration

Nah there's something else you can do, what @FreeIcecream said is right. You need 100+ buff duration but you can also use the mercedes card to reduce skill cd by 3-4 seconds ( for the beholder skill). Getting one buff line, mech card, and perhaps max empathy should be decent enough for spamming gunghir but two lines of buff duration (legendary) should grant you spammable gunghir again.

[quote=FreeIcecream]Aye, that was the entire point of the rebalance.[/quote]

I have another main Dark Knight and this honestly doesn't even bother me. Even if i could CRA, I think it is still a pretty neat way to not have us rely on solely one skill alone bossing.

[quote=ITrandescent]@FreeIcecream so basically dark knight's would have to live with dark impale in the time frame that gungir isn't up[/quote]

Aye, that was the entire point of the rebalance.

@FreeIcecream so basically dark knight's would have to live with dark impale in the time frame that gungir isn't up

@ITrandescent: Sacrifice will have a 30 second duration and Beholder a 70 second cooldown.

You'd need 134%+ buff duration, which is impossible as far as I'm aware.

@FreeIceCream & @ima90sbaby : thanks for the info, but will Dark knights be able to have infinite gungir by increased buff durations?

Sacrifice duration decreased

Cross Surge's damage boost at full health will go from 100% to 80%
The big loss is the decreased duration and increased cooldown of that skill which makes you spam Gungirs Descent. (forgot the skills name)