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SO does this mean sairs can rush monsters now?

[quote=Rosencroft]to save me a headache: Play with what you like and are willing to fund. Personally? I recommend a Marksman or a Corsair. I find the toy gun nx adorable and when a Corsair fights you are effectively pushing out more explosions then a Michael Bay Movie.

I must admit, I'm a little nervous about how any of us will handle to change to Corsairs. Adjusting to the new style will take some getting used to.[/quote]

Just make a Jett for now while we wait for the revamp to see the new playing style more or less. 3rd job isn't that bad so far and is pretty fun.

So you wouldn't even suggest playing a cannoneer?
And a quick question about khaini, is the world dying or are they still quite a few number of people? Cuz I used to play there but moved to bera, now I'm sick of bera and looking to join a new world or khaini again (on my new account. So still no funding)

Hey guys I have a question. So I made a new account and I'm planning on either starting a new world or stay in bees on my new account (I'm doing this so I can try out classes I've never played) I wanna know should I play a corsair or cannoneer (when we are able to make legends again) or maybe a marksman.
So which one is better with like no funding, or little funding, and has a fun playstyle (mobbing, mobility)

P.s. Sorry I didn't make a thread it's just my computer is broken so I have to do this on my iPod and it won't let me post threads

my bucc was amazing back in the old days! now we are weak and slow, i like it but my pally with way less founding is stronger in all ways! pirates are dying, revamp is needed, by the way jett class is really nonesense!

@sleepyheadXIII: I'll get on once everyday for the justice coin and maybe once in a while to sell my books. I'm sorry other me, I really can't come back to maple. Too stressful. I'm already having like depression problems on my own

[quote=ReverseExGuns]@lazypando Oh em geeeeeee I'm so proud of you guys :o[/quote]

sairz4lyfe yo

i do i do think i hear a troll~
<3

@ReverseExGuns: For what? :o
oh oh oh, and don't quit please. Revamp is still coming and junk. Come back to us

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]Just going to copy and paste from another thread since don't wanna type everything again

There is no denying in terms of numbers and mobility we are better. At the end of the day facts is facts and we are better in terms of numbers. At the end of the day though, all I see now from the corsair bossing video is just another BM and in training videos basically another Cannoneer. If wanted that, I would of just made a BM or Cannoneer. I love our current gameplay and the few flaws that it had like being the only job in the game without stance could of been easily fixable. Apparently the majority here on basil hates our current gamplay which honestly confuses me why they even play their corsair still, and nexon just did what the majority wanted. I don't hate BMs, so I'm sticking to my corsair, but overall feel as though could of done a better job with this revamp and keeping the core gameplay instead of just basically making a brand new job.

Just an opinion though[/quote]

@lazypando Oh em geeeeeee I'm so proud of you guys :o

Wowwww rapid fire is amazing.. even for unfunded people

Question, how much Crit does revamp add?

PIRATES WE STILL HAVE HOPE.
A person from nexon did say pirates will get revamped later in summer.
My guess is it gonna come with phantom since phantoms probally cant steal our ships and our transformation.
SO DONT U QUIT YET WE STILL GOT HOPE

i dont know if this has been posted but heres another video on mount canceling. <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7bJzTAQ1w&feature=related

Idk about this neither but finally a good zakum run by a sair!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w40VB0vC_EM&feature=relmfu

^ I really hope they DONT fix i i mean look at this video of a sair Post revamp at ZAK without the "delay cancellation".. SLOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPX_4-0DcE&feature=related

Best compilation ever! Now I dont have to look around for different links

Im kind of disappointed that corsairs and just summoning everything to fight now. But whatever. Do you think they will patch the "glitch" that takes away the delay on Fusillade? If they do, I dont think sairs could be effect mobbers with such a slow cast time.

And lastly, does this put sairs back on top of the dps charts? With a 100% rate of final attack, rapid fire would be doing 400% (330%+70%) damage per bullet O:
Im not sure about the AFA rate for Mercedes, but dealing 3200% Damage per second sound really, [i]really[/i] nice [b]♥[/b]

Just gonna post this since no ones posted it, I think? It's a sair video from jms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGvS2hQ6Jgs

As much as I want a Corsair for the revamp, I really don't like 3rd job </3
Thanks for the collection of videos man

I can't wait for the revamp I can finally show a Corsair HT solo video right now it only leaves me with 25minutes on the clock hopefully after it'll be less seeing how we have stance and resistance and can mob the top three heads and headshot and if the card update comes Ill have more hp thanks to my drk and my Demon slayer for extra resistance.

[quote=MyGunner]Also if they don't crash then you can always get your Sair friends and have some fun. [/quote]
oh the people I've killed...

it's kinda...unfortunate? most people don't realize that restarting MS usually fixes mount lag

[quote=karmazen]Hmm. How useful is mount cancelling going to be in gMS with the current issue with mounts? -Waits to find out-[/quote]

think of it this way: you're doing them a favor by crashing their MS thereby temporarily fixing their mount lag

bump bump bump

I'm lovin the sound effects, shotgun and everything.

120% mastery in total ^_^

i dont really like the changes to animations OR the fact that some skills appear stolen from other classes and renamed :S

i just hope that we sairs will be less marshmallow-y after the revamp... im tired of going squish so often o.O

@jacob1248: and @Rosencroft: lol, why me?
Honestly, it's fine if this is updated or not. There's not much, if any at all new videos from kms. Plus this thread is linked from the post justice guide so if anyone really wants to see the videos, they can just look at that. Plus most questions can be answered in the forum anyways.

@Rosencroft Sure, do I just PM a mod to do that? Also, @SleepyheadXIII I think I have everything covered up to page 20ish, wherever my last response was, so start adding stuff from there haha

thanks for giving me the credit for tht vid. dude<3333333333333333

Alright, sorry to everyone for never updating this, I've quit maple so I forgot about this thread. I may still continue to update this thread until the patch is out, but I have to read all the responses first.

@MyGunner: Eh, even though cannoneer's % is lower, would say they are better mobbers than sair, because of the laser range, anchor helping them gather mobs, and cannon jump being a bit better then wings in some way.

@MyGunner: Ikr. The nerf was not needed really. Especially since they weren't popular to begin with like DS/Merc and can't create them anymore on top of it too..

@MyGunner: and @lolnubb:
Actually...
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50830
Buccs beat cannoneers in both 1vs1 and mobbing
Sairs beat cannoneers in both 1vs1 and mobbing as well.
Cannoneer is weaker than both jobs at both things

Only reason why would say cannoneers are better at mobbing is because 1st-3rd job they are more mob oriented and that they have anchor to help gather mob
Edit; oh and the pure range of laser compare to fusillade

[quote=Mazzacre]I personally prefer corsair =P[/quote]

I much rather have captain and viper to be honest.
Like seriously, without ever looking it up how many people even know what a corsair is?
Everyone knows what a captain is though.

And idk why, but viper just seems like a better name than buccaneer with their skills and how they look.
If they are going to completely change our playing style, I hope they change the name as well.

@Halfhearted: That possibly could be it.

@YouAzle: That shouldn't matter though, seems as though something is off. Mean my octos do same damage as my cannon, yours should do as much as yours does.

@sleepyheadXIII: yes lvl 20 octo for me, I guess your range is higher.

@YouAzle: Is yours maxed? Mine does 200-250k I wanna say like....90% of the time. And when it doesn't, it's like 190k which is pretty close to 200k.
It's extremely helpful to me, especially at czak.

@sleepyheadXIII: What the hell? How does your octos hit 300+? Max lvl 20 and mine hit 100+ o.o

@YouAzle: Really? You do about the same damage as me and my octos do about the same damage my cannon. Which is nice especially with no stance.

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]Eh, not saying octopus is bad, but probably was a good thing. Mean...the majority don't even use it, because they are to lazy to even summon it.
Plus it doesn't mean our damage is so reliant on it which is good because of the cooldown. Think if saw the % dmgs for pirates on southperry, even a 5 sec server lag can drastically decrease our damage.[/quote]

My corsair hit 200-300ks at gun boss, I noticed when i take time to summon octos, it wastes time i couldve been hitting 2 cannons or 3 (1+m damage) Those octos hit like 100k each, go away pretty fast. I think theyre just good for pinning a boss but who needs that nowadays.

@Rosencroft: Nice. I mean more like, we aren't as summon dependent/orientated as we were before Justice. Mean, at the moment I think Octo+gaviota makes up about 40-60% our DPM at high pdr rate bosses. Majority of the sairs are to lazy to summon them though constantly.
So even though they nerfed octo to the extreme, that fact don't have to summon it every 10seconds (reason people hate it) for a huge chunk of our DPM is pretty good. Especially like said before, since people are to lazy to even summon our current octopus.
So the change to octo has some pros and some cons.

[quote=Halfhearted]@Zenarkenstin nope.
Not only did Nexon massively nerf the damage %, lower the duration, AND remove the PDR bypass, but they also made it so you can only summon 1 at a time.

Octo went from being a [i]GREAT[/i] DPM skill to being far less effective and much less-worth summoning.[/quote]

Eh, not saying octopus is bad, but probably was a good thing. Mean...the majority don't even use it, because they are to lazy to even summon it.
Plus it doesn't mean our damage is so reliant on it which is good because of the cooldown. Think if saw the % dmgs for pirates on southperry, even a 5 sec server lag can drastically decrease our damage.

nope you cant summon more than one Octo.
yea i know its lame

[quote=sleepyheadXIII]Look at the brightside, we are the only pirate job that doesn't use a laser. I'm actually proud of that... o.o[/quote]

Every pirate has something that they're missing...

For Cannons it's a Hurricane-fast type 1 vs 1 skill,
For buccs it's mobility skills,
For Corsairs it's a laser,
For Mechs... well... Anything remotely that reminds me of a pirate, they don't have.

[quote=ImSavvy]if they take RF what's left? o.0 arent we losing most/all of our skills w the revamp? i already have a cannoneer! i dont want savvy to morph into a second cannoneer w/out my consent >.< ....and i will miss my boat T.T[/quote]

Look at the brightside, we are the only pirate job that doesn't use a laser. I'm actually proud of that... o.o

if they take RF what's left? o.0 arent we losing most/all of our skills w the revamp? i already have a cannoneer! i dont want savvy to morph into a second cannoneer w/out my consent >.< ....and i will miss my boat T.T

@Shikiddo: Eh, since they are going to copy hs and make hs more available and also giving me a 10% critical link skill making it easier for me to hit my 100% critical goal, they can have my rapid fire.

[quote=Rosencroft]I'd imagine the price of Rapid fire would skyrocket up to... ass backwards expensive just for the sake that 2 classes need it (Corsairs because its a main bossing skill and Phantom... because they effing need it...)

I believe I quit maple for a while until the revamp comes... to much crap going on in my life right now to even bother coming back...[/quote]

Eh...I wouldn't see phantom making prices skyrocket just because of how annoying it's going to be for them to find max rapid fire.
First they got to lvl up their 4th job steal skill thing up to lvl30. (Not sure if the skill needs books, if so then dam going to suck)
Afterwards they have to find a corsair with max rapid fire. Corsairs are pretty rare (probably will be still after the revamp since nl/shad revamp to phantom to db revamp makes thieves the thing to be for bandwagoners) and we don't even have max rapid fire until like 150.
So having to max their own skill, finding a decently high lvl corsair, and hope that sair has max rapid fire....so much of a drag.

@iShottedSnow: Eh, just get a couple of those duped hacked stuff along with a duped unique vip and chances are you'll be able to out do me.

@iShottedSnow: Lol, not even close. I'm like a tiny bit above average at best, like said...I hate cubing. I have no desire to be one of the strongest, just seems like so much effort. Just rather cube for the last 6%crit I need for 100% critical after the revamp and be able to say "screw siege mode" for a bit of a laugh with few of my mechanic friends than to cube everything for 15%+ dex. Don't even have a single equip with legendary tier.

@iShottedSnow: Ouch that sucks. I was hacked the day before LHC came out, so much for trying a new training area as soon as it came out.
Took forever to get back on my feet. o.o