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@Taichikara: Okay, now it makes sense. Yes, he used most of my techniques I was thinking about (or I thought of his easily?)

The ONLY thing I didn't think of is Makering items. Howver, IDK how this will be once Chaos comes.

You can also be a lukless AM or Bishop and still wear the staves (without dragon equips). I think my way is a little bit better because you can scroll your equips with int instead of luk.

Regardless, you DO need A LOT of funding, which both you and I mentioned already.

[quote=Taichikara]@darklime: That's the staves ravkin's thread was talking about. The ele staff 5-8.
He showed how it was possible, and I think potential was mentioned only at the very end.

Edit : Found it, and he does mention scrolling some for luk. But with evans, if you make dragon reverse gear with advanced luk crystals, you don't need to scroll for luk.

Since TS's guide was towards evans, it is possible to wield a level 163 staff and be lukless. It just takes a LOT of funding.

Ravkin's thread : [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1998437/0/Lukless_Lvl_163_EStaff_Build_v2.html#]Lukless lvl 163 stadff build[/url]

Double edit: my bad.. I meant to put a 5 instead of a 3 in my previous post. sorry for the mixup. I will re edit that one.[/quote]

Hmm. thats pretty interesting! I didn't think any lukless mage could ever hold the ele staff 5/6 o.O

@Taichikara: But Ele Staff 3 only requires 105 luk. I'm talking about the staves, like yours, that needs 165 luk. I think it's possible to wear Ele Staves 5-8 without luk or all potential too, but luk scrolled equips are necessary. Still, i'd rather get some luk % or all % rather than add luk on my gear. Either way, it's going to be expensive and carefully planned.

[quote=GazimoEnthra]I really like the part about having 999 INT!
I capped my LUK at 83 because I never thought I'd get this far, but now it's nice to know that I can still have a decent amount of base LUK and max INT.
I didn't even know there was max INT lol.[/quote]

Me neither

[quote=Taichikara]I have to say, there's a lot on your guide that is false.

With enough funding, any mage can be lukless and use an elemental staff.
Arcana is lukless and she uses an ele staff 5. However at level 200, an evan can have max int (999) and place the rest of the ap into luk, which comes an a base luk of 38.
Also, you fail to tell about the timeless prelude, vip mage shields, or heck, the maple magician shield/regular maple shield as options (not to mention other equips you fail to mention).

Also, with blaze, it does get weaker with consecutive hits. For example if you hit 3 monsters, and all 3 are crits, it would be 999k, 899k, 799k.

Edit : Also, the link to your dps guide isn't working atm.[/quote]

I really like the part about having 999 INT!
I capped my LUK at 83 because I never thought I'd get this far, but now it's nice to know that I can still have a decent amount of base LUK and max INT.
I didn't even know there was max INT lol.

[quote=HolyBanish]your guide is good for now but that is useless.. not attacking you that much but you need to update skills, dampage, information on skillbook drops, monsters to train.. that is the reason why some of us evans was bashing your guides that much.. try not to go inactive because of this... go change your guide sooner or take it down or team up with a guy that is updating the guide.. teamwork to build a guide is very good and can be helpful in some cases.. 2 minds is like a supercomputer that can takes all information and deliver what we need to seek in our hearts[/quote]

I actually have most of the guide updated for post-chaos things, and am in the process of fixing the outdated guide bits (training, etc.) so don't worry

[quote=zeff] Didn't really bother reading the guide, but I'd like to point out that one of the links you put near the bottom on the guide should be taken out.
Urvin's %/per hour thread is no longer being updated and has been locked. Should probably get rid of that...[/quote]

Will do...

[quote=revette]Wow thas how you respond to critcism? I dont think anyone should be using your guide if you act lke such a jerk o.o[/quote]

I'm sorry about my response. But if I'm a "Jerk" then I'll stop updating it because from the start, my goal was to help people find more fun in playing the Evan class, not to piss people off with my "jerkyness."

[quote=lots of other people] ITS WRONG! FIX IT[/quote]

Uhh.... its hard to fix the damage chart if you don't tell me exactly whats wrong with it o.O

[quote=MrPineapple](too long to quote)[/quote]

MrPineapple, I'm deeply sorry for how I came off earlier, I had a REALLY hard day at work and it was childish of me to take it out on you. From the start, honestly, I was jealous of your guide. So i resorted to childish tactics to divert people away from yours. I remain adamant that I didn't steal anything from your guide, but i do acknowledge that i did take some inspiration from your guide. If you would be so kind, I would gladly take any and all suggestions you have if we can throw the past hostilities aside.

Once again, I'm sorry for my behavior and I hope that, together, we can make a guide worthy of the Players who use it.

[quote=Taichikara]I have to say, there's a lot on your guide that is false.

With enough funding, any mage can be lukless and use an elemental staff.
Arcana is lukless and she uses an ele staff 5. However at level 200, an evan can have max int (999) and place the rest of the ap into luk, which comes an a base luk of 38.
Also, you fail to tell about the timeless prelude, vip mage shields, or heck, the maple magician shield/regular maple shield as options (not to mention other equips you fail to mention).

Also, with blaze, it does get weaker with consecutive hits. For example if you hit 3 monsters, and all 3 are crits, it would be 999k, 899k, 799k.

Edit : Also, the link to your dps guide isn't working atm.[/quote]

I PMed him about the 'lukless can wear an ele staff 5-8' thing with provided details from luk equips and luk%/all% from equips. If it wasn't for the potential system, it would be a lot harder to be lukless and weld the staves.

Didn't really bother reading the guide, but I'd like to point out that one of the links you put near the bottom on the guide should be taken out.
Urvin's %/per hour thread is no longer being updated and has been locked. Should probably get rid of that...

[quote=Singvogel]@Jumbojet777: Ah, okay.
It's sad to see an Evan go, good luck though~.[/quote]

Thanks... and who knows? Maybe I'll join my Bello dragon brethren once again in a while?

[quote=Singvogel]Question, what happened to your Evan? It's not listed as your player anymore.[/quote]

Meh I realized that I would never be able to play him again... (seeing as my bros play in Bello and my Evan is in Scania... and i can't get a world transfer) So i took him off my players list.

[quote=MrPineapple]Numbers make absolutely no sense. Are these based on a set equipment and or damage range? Regardless, it can't be the least bit accurate; you're saying magic missile, Evans level 10 skill, has similar 'DPS' as phantom imprint (ghost lettering as you still call it), our second best 1v1 skill? The last two columns are pretty unnecessary as well. Also, Phantom Imprint goes to 20% for 15s, not 15%. I wouldn't find this helpful or have any use for it myself, it's too ambiguous and seems pretty inaccurate. It would make a lot more sense to chart the new damage % and casting speeds with the calculations of damage % per minute, not DPS.

On a personal note, I was on this Evan forum from the start ([i] so was I and my guide was out before yours... just an FYI[/i]). I had created a guide to show what your half finished 'work of art' didn't at the time. It was stickied. During my year of inactiveness on several occasions I found you belittling my guide, even advertising your own thread on my guides comments, and eventually having it removed --but not before you took some of my info and copied and retyped it as your own without credit to my work.

A guide is to help the community, not to display your ego. It's quite saddening to see your Basil ID plastered everywhere and see you consistently advertising these minor changes in new threads. Your guide's "News and Important Notices" is merely you talking about yourself and your issues rather than the Evan class. My point is, if you're going to put forth the effort to contribute something to help others, put your ego and demand for credit and praise aside.[/quote]

Geeze you mad bro? Name one instance where I "stole" info from your guide. Oh and the reason I was advertising my guide is because [b]Yours was inferior[/b]. You rarely updated it and it had 1/10th the information that mine did. Besides, the reason Magic Missile is close to other high level spells is because Dragon Sparking is more effective on faster skills aaaaand because those higher level spells usually have added effects (DOT or %DMG increases). And as for the News and Important Notices section, that [b]is[/b] about me, because I'm saying things about whats happened to me that will effect the guide... you know like if I'm going to be out of town, or playing another game for a few days?

So please:
1) Get your facts straight in the first place
2) Stop thinking you are some shunned person who has to lash out on what obviously beat you through determination and dedication
3) [B]Get off this thread if all you're going to do is complain about something that, from the start, was not supposed to be 100% accurate, and only a estimation.[/b]

I can't find the DPS chart in your guide O.o

Holy crap. I don't even have an Evan, and that guide looks amazing.
Good job. 0.o Outstanding. Make a DrK and Hero one? ;D