Should I change to a 2h sword user?
Hi ppl, recently i have been thinking of whether I should become a 2h sword user or not... thinking how there are pam's song and its easier to make a perfect 2h sword than making a 1h sword. I am really struggling because I dont know what I should do... I am ok funded i guess...
Below are my equips:
zhelm: 17/15/15/15 (3 line, 2 % str)
lvl 75 earring clean (2 line, 6 % str)
lvl 65 cape clean (2 line, 4% str)
Mark of Naricain 10 atk
black neos 12 str clean (2 line, 3% str)
Black neos pants clean (3 lines, bad stats)
red katana : 118 atk u/h (2 line, 2% atk, 2% all stats)
silver aqualia shield lvl80 clean (2 line, 3% all stats, 3% str)
lvl 60 warrior shoes, +4 speed 0 slots (2 line, 2% str)
first unwelcome guest belt 8/7/3/3 (no pot)
stormcaster gloves : 15 atk u/h (no pot)
I am thinking of hammering the RK and get two 50% sword for atk to work on it, but i cant seen to find any one handed sword 50%
should i just sell the RK and make a perfect Reverse Nibleheim?
i have around 1 bill of cash rite now, and maybe i can sell the RK for more than 1 bill?
not really sure how much the RK is gonna worth, can any1 give me a price check on it? =O?
Please and Thank you =D
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[quote=Jasonbird1]in scania you could pick you up a 130+ atk (roughly) 30% boss w/ other stats NRW, DRW, VIP axe or sword for a little under 2 bil. i would go 2h and i did. heres a comparison i had. i had a 30 str 2% str blue holfen and a 122 19 str blue dragon axe. when i made my tabz that i got now, it came 118 clean
i equiped it and my range went up. i think 2h has a higher multiplier than 1h by alot because mathmatically, my range shoulda went down. and heroes are cool 2h. leave the shields to the pallys. love ya pallys <3[/quote]
Well, i personally dont like the look on NRW XD i really like reverse Nibleheim but in terms of the speed, its kinda slow D:
Edit: I just switched to a Reverse Nibleheim =D and i am loving it ~~~ lol
its not that bad of a speed difference =P
in scania you could pick you up a 130+ atk (roughly) 30% boss w/ other stats NRW, DRW, VIP axe or sword for a little under 2 bil. i would go 2h and i did. heres a comparison i had. i had a 30 str 2% str blue holfen and a 122 19 str blue dragon axe. when i made my tabz that i got now, it came 118 clean
i equiped it and my range went up. i think 2h has a higher multiplier than 1h by alot because mathmatically, my range shoulda went down. and heroes are cool 2h. leave the shields to the pallys. love ya pallys <3
[quote=SwordSaint]Ah, I see you bought a Sparta. I guess you sold the RK already?
EDIT:
Crap, I bought 3 ACA30s just now and broke every damn one. :x[/quote]
D: nope, i am using a 118 atk sparta only XD, and i didnt sell my RK yet lol...
Edit: i couldnt find any ACA 30, so i decided to go get IS to lvl 10 first, while hunting for some ACA 30 at overlord XD.
lol i just went broke... blew up my 6 atk 6% shield, with a 70% and wasted all my money on making one... and still didnt get wut i wanted... they all blew up XD
[quote=oPlay]Found this thread very helpful. So thanks Saikyr and SkyBon . I am actually in the exact same position right now, so will be selling my rk once i get a bit higher.
BTW, did the above poster not read any of the thread? O__O'[/quote]
lol haha, no problem, i am glad it helped >.<~~ btw, i havent seen any of u guys in bera yet lol. except for SkyBon. well, maybe we r gonna meet someday
Yeah dump that 1h + shield combo, it's all hypothetical in terms of DPS & DPM. 2H rules any day of the week period!
ah ok =D thx, and thanks all that helped me ><~
@lasergunx9: It's been accepted ages ago. Basil is just slow on updating the chat stuff... (you should see the Friend thing color on the top right of my post).
[quote=21993]Since you're in Bera I can give an input about the FM. I personally think that if you're looking for an above average decent weapon I'd say it's hard to find one. The most I've seen are 11X-12X's Sparta around FM which cost for a suitable amount. A Hero I know bought a non-potential 122 atk Sparta for 150mil just recently so I'd say get about the same in the similar price. Then spend the other stuff for either making a shield (buy some Shield for atk 30%'s and 70%'s and 3 line warrior shield) if you have some access of NX for cubing it or buying one (its harder to find around).[/quote]
ah... i just recently bought two sparta, 118 atk and 124 atk for 110 and 150 mill, but i sold my 124 atk for 250 mill... now i have to look for another one... D:
well thx =D
would u mind accepting my friend request =D, and if i have anything to ask u, it would be much easier =P
[quote=lasergunx9]Also, i am just wondering, if i sell the RK, should i make a one handed sword myself or if i should just buy one.
i am thinking that it would be hard to get a high atk one handed sword, since there arent many in FMs and maybe i should just make a reverse nibleheim in the end...[/quote]
Since you're in Bera I can give an input about the FM. I personally think that if you're looking for an above average decent weapon I'd say it's hard to find one. The most I've seen are 11X-12X's Sparta around FM which cost for a suitable amount. A Hero I know bought a non-potential 122 atk Sparta for 150mil just recently so I'd say get about the same in the similar price. Then spend the other stuff for either making a shield (buy some Shield for atk 30%'s and 70%'s and 3 line warrior shield) if you have some access of NX for cubing it or buying one (its harder to find around).
Also, i am just wondering, if i sell the RK, should i make a one handed sword myself or if i should just buy one.
i am thinking that it would be hard to get a high atk one handed sword, since there arent many in FMs and maybe i should just make a reverse nibleheim in the end...
[quote=lasergunx9]ok =D would i be good if i sell it for 1.2bill? o.o[/quote]
I'm not sure about RK prices because I have a feeling it could go for more... But at the same time there's this voice telling me it's a junk.
[quote=21993]Could go a bil or so... It can potentially go for 128 attack which is 1 scroll difference from perfect 133 atk (base 88 atk clean).[/quote]
ok =D would i be good if i sell it for 1.2bill? o.o
[quote=lasergunx9]ok, how much should i sell the RK for? o.o[/quote]
Could go a bil or so... It can potentially go for 128 attack which is 1 scroll difference from perfect 133 atk (base 88 atk clean).
[quote=21993]@btree55: Ah, of course if that's the case then it'd be more useful to go with that weapon.
Throw away your RK and get a better 1h. The speed difference isn't exactly as noticeable as you think it is.
On rough estimation with booster, I'd say RK does 16 iSlash per 10 seconds and Regular 1h does 15 iSlash per 10 seconds... I may be wrong with it by a couple decimal or something but nonetheless it's about this much you'd see difference.[/quote]
ok, how much should i sell the RK for? o.o
@btree55: Ah, of course if that's the case then it'd be more useful to go with that weapon.
[quote=lasergunx9]so u guys r suggesting that i should just stick to my RK and scroll my shield with atk?
and with that additional 1 bill, ill just look for two 50% sword for atk, then scroll the rk to 128 atk?[/quote]
Throw away your RK and get a better 1h. The speed difference isn't exactly as noticeable as you think it is.
On rough estimation with booster, I'd say RK does 16 iSlash per 10 seconds and Regular 1h does 15 iSlash per 10 seconds... I may be wrong with it by a couple decimal or something but nonetheless it's about this much you'd see difference.
so u guys r suggesting that i should just stick to my RK and scroll my shield with atk?
and with that additional 1 bill, ill just look for two 50% sword for atk, then scroll the rk to 128 atk?
[quote=taleko]Running some numbers. 1.0976 speed advantage, (132/120) 10% power disadvantage +50 att in supplementary sources
(sword 1 + common att setup) : (sword 2 + common att setup) power adv/dis-adv x speed adv/dis-adv
(146+20+50) : (167+50) x 1.1 / 1.0976
216:217.47
so you in reality gained next to nothing (about half a percent increase) in DPM... but lost the ability to to potential your shield... (the more you had in common attack, i.e. gloves, BoF, etc, etc, etc the 1h actually becomes better)
Factor in the str provided by the shield and then you realise that that about half a percent increase is actually closer to 0 than you think.[/quote]
Well he did say "DPS" (assuming Damage Per Strike).
Nonetheless, this is a simple example of how if you have an almost similar 1h VIP atk + shield atk with str%, will outdamage 2h users.
If you don't have an atk shield, and you feel more comfortable making a godly 2h sword, then go for it.
[quote=btree55]I just went 2H on my hero for the same reason....now my 165 atk 2H VIP axe, out DPS's my old 146atk 1H sword + 20 atk shield combo. I can't wait till I get the courage to throw some enhancements on that bad boy.
go for it dude![/quote]
haha ok, can i also get a price check on the RK? =O